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Why Oracle was right to sue Google

Owen Densmore
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Slashdot pointed out this article:
        http://www.infoworld.com/print/134392
.. which makes a good case for Oracle.

I found it surprising, but the argument does make a good case for Oracle strengthening the Java platform, maintaining its coherence.  Dalvik would not run java byte codes, for example .. requiring recompiling Java source to the .dex format.

I think I agree, but I haven't had my coffee yet!

The usual incoherent /. babble is here:
        http://developers.slashdot.org/story/10/08/22/1534205/

    -- Owen



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Re: Why Oracle was right to sue Google

Russ Abbott
Good article. Makes the case that Oracle's suit against Google parallels Sun's suit against Microsoft a decade ago when Microsoft wanted to implement a Window-only version of Java.

-- Russ



On Mon, Aug 23, 2010 at 9:06 AM, Owen Densmore <[hidden email]> wrote:
Slashdot pointed out this article:
       http://www.infoworld.com/print/134392
.. which makes a good case for Oracle.

I found it surprising, but the argument does make a good case for Oracle strengthening the Java platform, maintaining its coherence.  Dalvik would not run java byte codes, for example .. requiring recompiling Java source to the .dex format.

I think I agree, but I haven't had my coffee yet!

The usual incoherent /. babble is here:
       http://developers.slashdot.org/story/10/08/22/1534205/

   -- Owen



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Re: Why Oracle was right to sue Google

Carl Tollander
The small device platform for Java (the various flavors of MIDP, etc) was always a highly structured and fragmented mess.   The same classes had the possibility of different byte code implementations depending on the capabilities of the physical platform, not to mention the various small real-time and Java-on-a-chip engines that were popping up.   Android has helped unify that, a kind of tough love for Java as a whole (though I doubt they care much about Oracle).  It has its own versioning problems, those are slowly being resolved.   Android is not trying to fork the JDK, in my view (which would indeed be suit-worthy).  If this forces Oracle to clean the small device house, (by losing the suit in a graceful way), Java will be better off.

Carl

On 8/23/10 7:29 PM, Russ Abbott wrote:
Good article. Makes the case that Oracle's suit against Google parallels Sun's suit against Microsoft a decade ago when Microsoft wanted to implement a Window-only version of Java.

-- Russ



On Mon, Aug 23, 2010 at 9:06 AM, Owen Densmore <[hidden email]> wrote:
Slashdot pointed out this article:
       http://www.infoworld.com/print/134392
.. which makes a good case for Oracle.

I found it surprising, but the argument does make a good case for Oracle strengthening the Java platform, maintaining its coherence.  Dalvik would not run java byte codes, for example .. requiring recompiling Java source to the .dex format.

I think I agree, but I haven't had my coffee yet!

The usual incoherent /. babble is here:
       http://developers.slashdot.org/story/10/08/22/1534205/

   -- Owen



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