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Does it work for you? I get the following:
> Couldn't load the data for this visual > Couldn't retrieve the data for this visual. Please try again later. > Please try again later or contact support. If you contact support, please provide these details. > Http Status Code: 429 > Activity ID: ad5c7d38-713b-4706-bf89-c99fa6934ca7 > Correlation ID: 16b6d576-5b51-6764-5176-79afb3b55ca6 > Request ID: 00fb6178-b065-a2cb-c15b-d48bb9ab8f24 > Time: Wed Jul 01 2020 09:40:37 GMT-0700 (Pacific Daylight Time) > Service version: 13.0.13804.55 > Client version: 2006.5.01698-train > Cluster URI: https://df-msit-scus-api.analysis.windows.net/ > Activity ID: ad5c7d38-713b-4706-bf89-c99fa6934ca7 > Request ID: 00fb6178-b065-a2cb-c15b-d48bb9ab8f24 > Time: Wed Jul 01 2020 09:40:37 GMT-0700 (Pacific Daylight Time) > Service version: 13.0.13804.55 > Client version: 2006.5.01698-train > Cluster URI: https://df-msit-scus-api.analysis.windows.net/ And even that error took a looooonnnnnggggg time to come up. On 7/1/20 7:00 AM, Tom Johnson wrote: > https://www.npr.org/sections/health-shots/2020/07/01/885263658/green-yellow-orange-or-red-this-new-tool-shows-covid-19-risk-in-your-county -- ☣ uǝlƃ - .... . -..-. . -. -.. -..-. .. ... -..-. .... . .-. . FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv Zoom Fridays 9:30a-12p Mtn GMT-6 bit.ly/virtualfriam un/subscribe http://redfish.com/mailman/listinfo/friam_redfish.com archives: http://friam.471366.n2.nabble.com/ FRIAM-COMIC http://friam-comic.blogspot.com/
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I think that the NPR coverage this morning drove a connection overload on the servers. Perhaps try again? TJ ============================================ Tom Johnson - [hidden email] Institute for Analytic Journalism -- Santa Fe, NM USA 505.577.6482(c) 505.473.9646(h) NM Foundation for Open Government Check out It's The People's Data ============================================ On Wed, Jul 1, 2020 at 10:41 AM ∄ uǝlƃ <[hidden email]> wrote: Does it work for you? I get the following: - .... . -..-. . -. -.. -..-. .. ... -..-. .... . .-. . FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv Zoom Fridays 9:30a-12p Mtn GMT-6 bit.ly/virtualfriam un/subscribe http://redfish.com/mailman/listinfo/friam_redfish.com archives: http://friam.471366.n2.nabble.com/ FRIAM-COMIC http://friam-comic.blogspot.com/ |
It was still failing with a 429, too many requests. By selecting the state first, then hitting the counties button, it works.
The direct link, for posterity: https://globalepidemics.org/key-metrics-for-covid-suppression/ On 7/1/20 10:14 AM, Tom Johnson wrote: > I think that the NPR coverage this morning drove a connection overload on the servers. Perhaps try again? -- ☣ uǝlƃ - .... . -..-. . -. -.. -..-. .. ... -..-. .... . .-. . FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv Zoom Fridays 9:30a-12p Mtn GMT-6 bit.ly/virtualfriam un/subscribe http://redfish.com/mailman/listinfo/friam_redfish.com archives: http://friam.471366.n2.nabble.com/ FRIAM-COMIC http://friam-comic.blogspot.com/
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The interviewee mentions emphasis on personal decision making, though it
seems that this tool is too crude to be very useful. She also mentions that if one is planning to visit a county marked in red, that they should reconsider, but what about the opposite message? It seems that it might be advantageous to remind people in red counties (presumably places were group action hasn't been up to snuff) to not visit yellow or green places. This argument is made often for the use of masks, shouldn't we be more active in spreading that message with regards travel? -- Sent from: http://friam.471366.n2.nabble.com/ - .... . -..-. . -. -.. -..-. .. ... -..-. .... . .-. . FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv Zoom Fridays 9:30a-12p Mtn GMT-6 bit.ly/virtualfriam un/subscribe http://redfish.com/mailman/listinfo/friam_redfish.com archives: http://friam.471366.n2.nabble.com/ FRIAM-COMIC http://friam-comic.blogspot.com/ |
In principle, yes. But as the arguments with SteveS and Dave about seatbelts and motorcycle gear indicates, even *if* a discussant understands the unintended consequences of some action and intricate reasoning like survivorship bias, there's an overwhelming tendency (in all of us!) to think selfishly first, otherishly second. So, harping on red citizens about visiting yellow/green places will likely just annoy them and summon up their selfish tendencies.
I don't know how to solve this problem. My structure of shame separates shame from shaming and divides shame into 3 scopes: embarrassment, guilt, and shame. I think both embarrassment and guilt tend to summon up selfish tendencies because they're more acute and amenable to re-action, whereas shame tends to summon up self-deprecation and is amenable to long-term strategy. I'd like to find a technique for shaming that targets self-deprecation but does NOT target embarrassment or guilt. Supplication is one plausible technique ... phrasing things like "Please don't visit us if you're in a high infection rate county." If done respectfully, only the most hard-core sociopath can ignore that sort of expression. (I relied on it quite a bit during my chem/drug treatment, when my lymphocyte counts were super low.) But I don't know how to institutionalize that. On 7/1/20 10:32 AM, Jon Zingale wrote: > The interviewee mentions emphasis on personal decision making, though it > seems that this tool is too crude to be very useful. She also mentions that > if one is planning to visit a county marked in red, that they should > reconsider, but what about the opposite message? It seems that it might be > advantageous to remind people in red counties (presumably places were group > action hasn't been up to snuff) to not visit yellow are green places. This > argument is made often for the use of masks, shouldn't we be more active in > spreading that message with regards travel? -- ☣ uǝlƃ - .... . -..-. . -. -.. -..-. .. ... -..-. .... . .-. . FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv Zoom Fridays 9:30a-12p Mtn GMT-6 bit.ly/virtualfriam un/subscribe http://redfish.com/mailman/listinfo/friam_redfish.com archives: http://friam.471366.n2.nabble.com/ FRIAM-COMIC http://friam-comic.blogspot.com/
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To the extent we believe *selfishly first* to be the rule, we probably
shouldn't bother with that argument for masks either. Some don't drive to reduce the world's carbon footprint, possibly shifting the balance of power in favor of those that would produce larger ecological destruction if they could benefit at all. The working poor, especially in the service sector, will continue to foot the bill of our collective actions, and those that break quarantine to travel from red to green counties for vacation will continue to exact this transaction. The experience of this pandemic and our ongoing discussion of *free will* make me wonder about the ethics of schadenfreude. As I watch the ineptitude of my political representatives (expert scientists not exempt), blundering their way past 1/4 of the world's recorded COVID deaths (512K versus 129K), I can't help but think about RogerC's comment regarding *great-great-great-grand-dad*. What are the ethics of preparing to profit from investments in realty, vacant storefronts, and other possible niches created in the wake of COVID deaths? If 1700s America had Amazon, how could I reason about the ethics of allowing Amazon to profit excessively disproportionately on the slave trade? On the one hand, I would feel shame from the purchasing of another human being, on the other I would feel shame to allow all power to concentrate into a pool from which it may never again be liberated. Must it always be the case that to the most exploitative goes the spoils? -- Sent from: http://friam.471366.n2.nabble.com/ - .... . -..-. . -. -.. -..-. .. ... -..-. .... . .-. . FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv Zoom Fridays 9:30a-12p Mtn GMT-6 bit.ly/virtualfriam un/subscribe http://redfish.com/mailman/listinfo/friam_redfish.com archives: http://friam.471366.n2.nabble.com/ FRIAM-COMIC http://friam-comic.blogspot.com/ |
ps. "RogerC's comment regarding *great-great-great-grand-dad*. What are the
ethics of preparing to profit..." It really only occurs to me just now that this isn't all that far from Gogol's plot in "Dead Souls" :) -- Sent from: http://friam.471366.n2.nabble.com/ - .... . -..-. . -. -.. -..-. .. ... -..-. .... . .-. . FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv Zoom Fridays 9:30a-12p Mtn GMT-6 bit.ly/virtualfriam un/subscribe http://redfish.com/mailman/listinfo/friam_redfish.com archives: http://friam.471366.n2.nabble.com/ FRIAM-COMIC http://friam-comic.blogspot.com/ |
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On 7/1/20 11:51 AM, Jon Zingale wrote: > To the extent we believe *selfishly first* to be the rule, we probably > shouldn't bother with that argument for masks either. Agreed. I argue for mandates or nothing, recommendations are only heeded by those of us who give a sh¡t about other people. And the majority of the people I run into do not. And even mandates are susceptible. Our governor put a mask mandate in place, but several of our sheriffs are refusing to enforce it. > Must it always be the case that to the most exploitative goes the spoils? No, I don't think so. I can't back it up with air-tight evidence. But I'm inclined to correlate an increase in spoil distribution with the rule of law. To the extent that the rules of the game are written down and the codex is the ultimate referent, the exploiters have a more complex game to play. Granted, the rule-followers *also* have a more complex game to play. (Shout out to all the small business owners out there!) But we can encode a little universality into the codex by writing laws that help the lawful follow the law. And, again granted, this opens the door to systemic/algorithmic prejudice. Get your prejudice written into the codex and it'll last longer and "cement" your advantage far and wide. But, again, we can codify self-editing features into the codex. The only deep problem left to solve is the meta-game problem (e.g. SLAPP suits). -- ☣ uǝlƃ - .... . -..-. . -. -.. -..-. .. ... -..-. .... . .-. . FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv Zoom Fridays 9:30a-12p Mtn GMT-6 bit.ly/virtualfriam un/subscribe http://redfish.com/mailman/listinfo/friam_redfish.com archives: http://friam.471366.n2.nabble.com/ FRIAM-COMIC http://friam-comic.blogspot.com/
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"Although the masters make the rules
For the wise men and the fools I got nothing, Ma, to live up to" -- Nobel laureate Robert Allen Zimmerman -- Sent from: http://friam.471366.n2.nabble.com/ - .... . -..-. . -. -.. -..-. .. ... -..-. .... . .-. . FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv Zoom Fridays 9:30a-12p Mtn GMT-6 bit.ly/virtualfriam un/subscribe http://redfish.com/mailman/listinfo/friam_redfish.com archives: http://friam.471366.n2.nabble.com/ FRIAM-COMIC http://friam-comic.blogspot.com/ |
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https://www.santafenewmexican.com/news/coronavirus/new-mexico-governor-issues-new-public-health-order-ahead-of-holiday-weekend/article_eb862480-bbb4-11ea-a449-ab1ca7ca2518.html
The article states: "As a result, she said, state officials are cracking down. Police will “aggressively” enforce mask-wearing, issuing $100 citations to those who don’t use them. Businesses whose employees don’t use them will be charged with a misdemeanor and also will be fined $100. All out-of-state visitors will be required to complete the 14-day quarantine regardless of how they enter the state, and officials will be asking hotels to help them enforce the rule." -- Sent from: http://friam.471366.n2.nabble.com/ - .... . -..-. . -. -.. -..-. .. ... -..-. .... . .-. . FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv Zoom Fridays 9:30a-12p Mtn GMT-6 bit.ly/virtualfriam un/subscribe http://redfish.com/mailman/listinfo/friam_redfish.com archives: http://friam.471366.n2.nabble.com/ FRIAM-COMIC http://friam-comic.blogspot.com/ |
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