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I used to follow Nano-tech news. IIRC LANAL and UC Berkley earlier this year was working on something similler in wich nanites were able coordinate somehow. I wonder if there using similar technology. On Fri, Aug 15, 2014 at 11:32 AM, Tom Johnson <[hidden email]> wrote:
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Gee, Nick. Since consciousness studies are the next big thing, you guys are really on the front lines. As a member of the Lindisfarne Fellowship, I've been dialoging about this stuff with my fellow Lindisfarnians for years. We haven't gotten very far, but its been fun. Stu Kauffman, by the way, is also a Lindisfarne Fellow, as is Ralph Abraham, so the chaos and complexity paradigm, along with lots of biology (Lynn Margulis, also a Fellow and good friend, is sadly missed) is quite often blended in an exciting and imaginative way into discussions that are quite esoteric. Lindisfarne has disbanded for a time, but it appears now to be temporary. Try this on for size from Bill Thompson's book "Coming into Being: Articles and Texts in the Evolution of Consciousness." ( Bill is the founder of the Lindisfarne Association.) How does the self emerge in self-organization? is one of the questions we discussed at length.
"Varela liked to distinguish between primary consciousness--the consciousness of the animal--and the reflexive consciousness that generates an awareness of selfhood...(we then have) the emergent condition of the ego or the self....Buddhism presents a developmental model of the evolution of consciousness, from form (spirochete) to feeling (cyanobacterium) to perception (nematode) to dispositional attitudes (slug) to primary consciousness (animal) to reflective self-consciousness (human)....(From there) we can define consciousness as 'the dynamical state-space of the perceptual system.'"
Bill is describing a self-organizing system that orchestrates all of the senses together to change the initial conditions, allowing for the emergence of self-consciousness. He also understands the ongoing debate among Buddhists and non-Buddhists concerning the reality of the self--but let's leave that for another time.
Hope you are having a great summer. I'm spending most of the summer writing at our house on San Juan Island. On Fri, Aug 15, 2014 at 11:07 AM, Gillian Densmore <[hidden email]> wrote:
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Friday night musing.
Groot is very interesting, in the same sense that Star Trek communicators were generators, in some sense, of cell flip phones. For those of you who don't go to movies, Groot is a character in a recent sci-fi movie "Guardians of the Galaxy" that is mostly fun yet mostly silly. However, as with many fun/silly things, occasionally there's some as-yet-unexplored-pop-culture-thing that may achieve some traction. Groot is a distributed consciousness walking tree. He only says one thing, "I am Groot", yet he is able to have conversations with those around him and appears to have a self and some considerable command of his physiology even though there is no apparent "center". Audiences seem to relate to the concept of such a creature readily. What would the consciousness of such a being be like? Who would we have to become to build one? C. On 8/15/14, 12:07 PM, Gillian Densmore
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I should say I'm bringing this up in the context of the sister
thread, so wit, there we might gain greater insight by considering
sentient constructs other than human, this being one of the roles of
science fiction. The less seriously proposed, perhaps the better.
On 8/15/14, 8:15 PM, Carl Tollander
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