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glen e. p. ropella-2

Re: War has been declared

Thus spake Douglas Roberts circa 10-02-19 12:47 PM:
> Did you wake up on the wrong side of your bunker this morning?

No. I just want to know why you sent this stuff to this list? I could
infer many relevant applied complexity points from this story. But I
would only be putting words in your mouth.

So far, it seems like you just got pissed and are willing to waste
everyone's time thinking about you and your life. That's certainly how
it feels when you "groan, not again" in response to someone who wants to
talk about emergence for the umpteenth time. It's like, "uh-oh, Doug
doesn't want to talk about this; so he's going to make a bunch of
dissatisfaction noises". At least, however, you're content-less "groan,
not again" messages are on topic for the list. It's similar for overly
"academic" topics/posts you continually bitch about. "Uh-oh, if I use
words or concepts that are too vague, we'll get a bunch of
dissatisfaction noises out of Doug." Even THOSE silly rants against
academic language are on topic.

But this little episode is PURE narcissism on your part. Or at least it
seems that way. I'm hoping you'll make some deeper point about, say,
the semi-permeable membranes of the "corporation" or something.

Note that I'm fine with this being a "bitch about random things" mailing
list, if that's the way you want to use it. I just didn't think that's
what it was about.

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Robert J. Cordingley

Re: War has been declared

Now I'm wondering, has someone been been trolled here?
Anon (oh wait...)

On 2/19/10 2:00 PM, glen e. p. ropella wrote:

> Thus spake Douglas Roberts circa 10-02-19 12:47 PM:
>
>> Did you wake up on the wrong side of your bunker this morning?
>>
> No. I just want to know why you sent this stuff to this list? I could
> infer many relevant applied complexity points from this story. But I
> would only be putting words in your mouth.
>
> So far, it seems like you just got pissed and are willing to waste
> everyone's time thinking about you and your life. That's certainly how
> it feels when you "groan, not again" in response to someone who wants to
> talk about emergence for the umpteenth time. It's like, "uh-oh, Doug
> doesn't want to talk about this; so he's going to make a bunch of
> dissatisfaction noises". At least, however, you're content-less "groan,
> not again" messages are on topic for the list. It's similar for overly
> "academic" topics/posts you continually bitch about. "Uh-oh, if I use
> words or concepts that are too vague, we'll get a bunch of
> dissatisfaction noises out of Doug." Even THOSE silly rants against
> academic language are on topic.
>
> But this little episode is PURE narcissism on your part. Or at least it
> seems that way. I'm hoping you'll make some deeper point about, say,
> the semi-permeable membranes of the "corporation" or something.
>
> Note that I'm fine with this being a "bitch about random things" mailing
> list, if that's the way you want to use it. I just didn't think that's
> what it was about.
>
>

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Robert Holmes

Re: War has been declared

I know that Doug is always precise in his use of language, so the final line in his linuxjournal.com update--"Kudus to Newegg for fixing this problem"--probably means exactly what it says. Doug - what is the shipping cost of small antelopes? Will your $150 voucher from Newegg cover it?

-- R

Douglas Roberts-2

Re: War has been declared

No, but I'm happy to spring for a larger envelop. After all, they met me half-way to resolve this.

;-}

On Fri, Feb 19, 2010 at 2:25 PM, Robert Holmes <[hidden email]> wrote:

I know that Doug is always precise in his use of language, so the final line in his linuxjournal.com update--"Kudus to Newegg for fixing this problem"--probably means exactly what it says. Doug - what is the shipping cost of small antelopes? Will your $150 voucher from Newegg cover it?

-- R

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Eric Charles

Re: War has been declared

In reply to this post by Douglas Roberts-2

Speaking only as a single member of the list, I was glad for the post (certainly, at least, the original and the resolution update).

It was informative in its own right, and relevant to me as a somewhat frequent online buyer of computer stuff and an occasional returner of computer stuff. It was also an entertaining story, though this is not a literature list. I WAS interested to see what, if anything would come of the posts. And then, there is always good old schadenfreude. I suspect Nick's voyeurism is something like the latter, but preferred by those who are faint of heart.

Eric

On Fri, Feb 19, 2010 04:00 PM, "glen e. p. ropella" <[hidden email]> wrote:

Thus spake Douglas Roberts circa 10-02-19 12:47 PM:
> Did you wake up on the wrong side of your bunker this morning?

No.  I just want to know why you sent this stuff to this list?  I could
infer many relevant applied complexity points from this story.  But I
would only be putting words in your mouth.

So far, it seems like you just got pissed and are willing to waste
everyone's time thinking about you and your life.  That's certainly how
it feels when you "groan, not again" in response to someone who wants
to
talk about emergence for the umpteenth time.  It's like, "uh-oh, Doug
doesn't want to talk about this; so he's going to make a bunch of
dissatisfaction noises".  At least, however, you're content-less
"groan,
not again" messages are on topic for the list.  It's similar for overly
"academic" topics/posts you continually bitch about.  "Uh-oh, if
I use
words or concepts that are too vague, we'll get a bunch of
dissatisfaction noises out of Doug."  Even THOSE silly rants against
academic language are on topic.

But this little episode is PURE narcissism on your part.  Or at least it
seems that way.  I'm hoping you'll make some deeper point about, say,
the semi-permeable membranes of the "corporation" or something.

Note that I'm fine with this being a "bitch about random things"
mailing
list, if that's the way you want to use it.  I just didn't think that's
what it was about.

-- 
glen e. p. ropella, 971-222-9095, http://agent-based-modeling.com


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Eric Charles

Professional Student and
Assistant Professor of Psychology
Penn State University
Altoona, PA 16601

Pamela McCorduck

Re: War has been declared

I read it all with amusement too. When the list gets too prolix, or about something that doesn't interest me, I just use the delete key. I mean, Nick and I got on about rutabagas for a while, and no one accused us of having nothing to do with complexity.

Pamela

On Feb 19, 2010, at 5:09 PM, ERIC P. CHARLES wrote:

Speaking only as a single member of the list, I was glad for the post (certainly, at least, the original and the resolution update).

It was informative in its own right, and relevant to me as a somewhat frequent online buyer of computer stuff and an occasional returner of computer stuff. It was also an entertaining story, though this is not a literature list. I WAS interested to see what, if anything would come of the posts. And then, there is always good old schadenfreude. I suspect Nick's voyeurism is something like the latter, but preferred by those who are faint of heart.

Eric

On Fri, Feb 19, 2010 04:00 PM, "glen e. p. ropella" <[hidden email]> wrote:
Thus spake Douglas Roberts circa 10-02-19 12:47 PM:
> Did you wake up on the wrong side of your bunker this morning?

No.  I just want to know why you sent this stuff to this list?  I could
infer many relevant applied complexity points from this story.  But I
would only be putting words in your mouth.

So far, it seems like you just got pissed and are willing to waste
everyone's time thinking about you and your life.  That's certainly how
it feels when you "groan, not again" in response to someone who wants
to
talk about emergence for the umpteenth time.  It's like, "uh-oh, Doug
doesn't want to talk about this; so he's going to make a bunch of
dissatisfaction noises".  At least, however, you're content-less
"groan,
not again" messages are on topic for the list.  It's similar for overly
"academic" topics/posts you continually bitch about.  "Uh-oh, if
I use
words or concepts that are too vague, we'll get a bunch of
dissatisfaction noises out of Doug."  Even THOSE silly rants against
academic language are on topic.

But this little episode is PURE narcissism on your part.  Or at least it
seems that way.  I'm hoping you'll make some deeper point about, say,
the semi-permeable membranes of the "corporation" or something.

Note that I'm fine with this being a "bitch about random things"
mailing
list, if that's the way you want to use it.  I just didn't think that's
what it was about.

-- 
glen e. p. ropella, 971-222-9095, http://agent-based-modeling.com


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Eric Charles

Professional Student and
Assistant Professor of Psychology
Penn State University
Altoona, PA 16601
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Douglas Roberts-2

Re: War has been declared

Pamela,

Everybody knows rutabagas are at the root of complexity!

--Doug

On Fri, Feb 19, 2010 at 3:43 PM, Pamela McCorduck <[hidden email]> wrote:

I read it all with amusement too. When the list gets too prolix, or about something that doesn't interest me, I just use the delete key. I mean, Nick and I got on about rutabagas for a while, and no one accused us of having nothing to do with complexity.
Pamela
On Feb 19, 2010, at 5:09 PM, ERIC P. CHARLES wrote:
Speaking only as a single member of the list, I was glad for the post (certainly, at least, the original and the resolution update).

It was informative in its own right, and relevant to me as a somewhat frequent online buyer of computer stuff and an occasional returner of computer stuff. It was also an entertaining story, though this is not a literature list. I WAS interested to see what, if anything would come of the posts. And then, there is always good old schadenfreude. I suspect Nick's voyeurism is something like the latter, but preferred by those who are faint of heart.

Eric

On Fri, Feb 19, 2010 04:00 PM, "glen e. p. ropella" <[hidden email]> wrote:
Thus spake Douglas Roberts circa 10-02-19 12:47 PM:
> Did you wake up on the wrong side of your bunker this morning?

No.  I just want to know why you sent this stuff to this list?  I could
infer many relevant applied complexity points from this story.  But I
would only be putting words in your mouth.

So far, it seems like you just got pissed and are willing to waste
everyone's time thinking about you and your life.  That's certainly how
it feels when you "groan, not again" in response to someone who wants
to
talk about emergence for the umpteenth time.  It's like, "uh-oh, Doug
doesn't want to talk about this; so he's going to make a bunch of
dissatisfaction noises".  At least, however, you're content-less
"groan,
not again" messages are on topic for the list.  It's similar for overly
"academic" topics/posts you continually bitch about.  "Uh-oh, if
I use
words or concepts that are too vague, we'll get a bunch of
dissatisfaction noises out of Doug."  Even THOSE silly rants against
academic language are on topic.

But this little episode is PURE narcissism on your part.  Or at least it
seems that way.  I'm hoping you'll make some deeper point about, say,
the semi-permeable membranes of the "corporation" or something.

Note that I'm fine with this being a "bitch about random things"
mailing
list, if that's the way you want to use it.  I just didn't think that's
what it was about.

-- 
glen e. p. ropella, 971-222-9095, http://agent-based-modeling.com


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Eric Charles

Professional Student and
Assistant Professor of Psychology
Penn State University
Altoona, PA 16601
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Doug Roberts
[hidden email]
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505-455-7333 - Office
505-670-8195 - Cell

glen e. p. ropella-2

Re: War has been declared

In reply to this post by Pamela McCorduck

Thus spake Pamela McCorduck circa 10-02-19 02:43 PM:
> I read it all with amusement too. When the list gets too prolix, or
> about something that doesn't interest me, I just use the delete key. I
> mean, Nick and I got on about rutabagas for a while, and no one accused
> us of having nothing to do with complexity.

That's because you and Nick don't CONSTANTLY bitch about other people's
posts being too filosofickle, too academic, or whatever. Doug's
constant bitching about other people's posts puts him in a special
position, one that deserves special attention.

--
glen e. p. ropella, 971-222-9095, http://agent-based-modeling.com

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Douglas Roberts-2

Re: War has been declared

Why thank you, Glen! For the record, I think you're pretty special yourself.

On Fri, Feb 19, 2010 at 3:53 PM, glen e. p. ropella <[hidden email]> wrote:

Thus spake Pamela McCorduck circa 10-02-19 02:43 PM:

> I read it all with amusement too. When the list gets too prolix, or
> about something that doesn't interest me, I just use the delete key. I
> mean, Nick and I got on about rutabagas for a while, and no one accused
> us of having nothing to do with complexity.

That's because you and Nick don't CONSTANTLY bitch about other people's
posts being too filosofickle, too academic, or whatever. Doug's
constant bitching about other people's posts puts him in a special
position, one that deserves special attention.

--
glen e. p. ropella, 971-222-9095, http://agent-based-modeling.com