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Nick Thompson

WAS stupidest wedtech etc.

Thanks, everybody

When I looked into David's suggestion for backup software for use with a CD, I quickly got to the following, which seemed to be a specific product designed for this specific purpose by the same company at the same price as opposed to RecordNow which is more a music application. . Detailed product description follows.

BackUp MyPC 2006 - ESD

Price: USD 49.99
TAX/VAT may apply for certain countries. Exact details are provided before the order is completed.
Shipment: Download, License key
Platform: Windows 2000, Windows XP
Version: 6
Language: English
Option: Backup CD [Info]
File Size: Full version: 29.4 MB
Download Time: Full version
# 56k: ~69 Min.
# DSL/Cable: ~5 Min.
# T1: ~3 Min.

Short of trashing my PC, which was Owen's suggestion, I thought I might go for it

Nicholas Thompson
nickthompson at earthlink.net
http://home.earthlink.net/~nickthompson

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> 1. NEW TIES project on evolving culture (Jochen Fromm)
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> (Robert Holmes)
> 3. Re: [WedTech] stupidest question ever asked on wedtech
> (Russell Standish)
> 4. Re: [WedTech] stupidest question ever asked on wedtech
> (David Breecker)
> 5. Re: ** this Wednesday** Lecture May 31 12:30p - Carlos
> Gershenson: A General Methodology for Designing Self-Organizing
> Systems (Carlos Gershenson)
> 6. MAKE: Blog (Owen Densmore)
> 7. Re: [WedTech] stupidest question ever asked on wedtech
> (Douglass Carmichael)
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> Message: 1
> Date: Wed, 31 May 2006 18:20:50 +0200
> From: "Jochen Fromm" <fromm at vs.uni-kassel.de>
> Subject: [FRIAM] NEW TIES project on evolving culture
> To: "'The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group'"
> <Friam at redfish.com>
> Message-ID: <001301c684ce$2e920a10$976fa8c0 at Toshiba>
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>
> The NEW TIES research project was recently in the news
> as an "European research project that will study social
> interactions between millions of virtual human beings"
> http://www.infoworld.com/article/06/05/19/78497_HNsoftwarebeings_1.html
>
> Do we have a scientist from the "New Ties" project
> in the FRIAM group or do you know something about it ?
> http://www.new-ties.org
>
> -J.
>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 2
> Date: Wed, 31 May 2006 16:29:39 -0600
> From: "Robert Holmes" <rholmes62 at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [FRIAM] [WedTech] stupidest question ever asked on
> wedtech
> To: FRIAM <Friam at redfish.com>
> Message-ID:
> <857770150605311529t46a84f51r4f744ad3eba66620 at mail.gmail.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
>
> I'm having success with a combination of a SimpleTech 80GB external drive
> (fits in a shirt pocket, runs off USB, $130) and Microsoft's SyncToy (one of
> the few pieces of MS software that does what it's meant to and no more).
>
> Strictly speaking this isn't a pure backup solution: my problem is that I
> work on a couple of machines in the office and a couple at home, and I want
> to make sure that I've always got the latest version of data, programs etc.
> to hand. By syncing regularly with all these machines I avoid version
> problems plus I get a pretty robust distributed backup (also I can cycle to
> work as I'm not lugging a laptop).
>
> Robert
>
>
> On 5/31/06, Nicholas Thompson <nickthompson at earthlink.net> wrote:
> >
> > All,
> >
> > some months ago my tech people "rehabbed" my "old" xp machine and told me
> > to stop being such a damn fool and back up my documents more often. So, I
> > thought I better try to do that. So last night I tried both Iomega backup
> > and Windows back up and they didnt work. Called the techs this morning and
> > asked for help and they said, "Oh silly you! You arent trying to back your
> > machine to a dvd/cd burner are you? XP doesnt DO that!" Silly me.
> >
> > Does anybody have a utility that backs up to CD? Also, could some body
> > remind me of the name of the screen capture utility that you guys told me
> > about. The "rehabb" seems to have obliterated that as well.
> >
> > Nick
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Nicholas Thompson
> > nickthompson at earthlink.net
> > http://home.earthlink.net/~nickthompson<http://home.earthlink.net/%7Enickthompson>
> >
> >
> >
> > _______________________________________________
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> Date: Thu, 1 Jun 2006 08:41:36 +1000
> From: Russell Standish <r.standish at unsw.edu.au>
> Subject: Re: [FRIAM] [WedTech] stupidest question ever asked on
> wedtech
> To: robert at holmesacosta.com, The Friday Morning Applied Complexity
> Coffee Group <Friam at redfish.com>
> Message-ID: <20060531224136.GB1193 at mpi.nsw.bigpond.net.au>
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>
> Some people seriously use a version control system like SVN. You could
> keep a SVN repository of your working directories on the portable harddrive.
>
> On Wed, May 31, 2006 at 04:29:39PM -0600, Robert Holmes wrote:
> > I'm having success with a combination of a SimpleTech 80GB external drive
> > (fits in a shirt pocket, runs off USB, $130) and Microsoft's SyncToy (one of
> > the few pieces of MS software that does what it's meant to and no more).
> >
> > Strictly speaking this isn't a pure backup solution: my problem is that I
> > work on a couple of machines in the office and a couple at home, and I want
> > to make sure that I've always got the latest version of data, programs etc.
> > to hand. By syncing regularly with all these machines I avoid version
> > problems plus I get a pretty robust distributed backup (also I can cycle to
> > work as I'm not lugging a laptop).
> >
> > Robert
> >
> >
> > On 5/31/06, Nicholas Thompson <nickthompson at earthlink.net> wrote:
> > >
> > > All,
> > >
> > >some months ago my tech people "rehabbed" my "old" xp machine and told me
> > >to stop being such a damn fool and back up my documents more often. So, I
> > >thought I better try to do that. So last night I tried both Iomega backup
> > >and Windows back up and they didnt work. Called the techs this morning and
> > >asked for help and they said, "Oh silly you! You arent trying to back
> > >your
> > >machine to a dvd/cd burner are you? XP doesnt DO that!" Silly me.
> > >
> > >Does anybody have a utility that backs up to CD? Also, could some body
> > >remind me of the name of the screen capture utility that you guys told me
> > >about. The "rehabb" seems to have obliterated that as well.
> > >
> > >Nick
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >Nicholas Thompson
> > >nickthompson at earthlink.net
> > >http://home.earthlink.net/~nickthompson<http://home.earthlink.net/%7Enickthompson>
> > >
> > >
> > >
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> > >
> > >
> > >
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> Message: 4
> Date: Wed, 31 May 2006 16:42:38 -0600
> From: David Breecker <David at BreeckerAssociates.com>
> Subject: Re: [FRIAM] [WedTech] stupidest question ever asked on
> wedtech
> To: robert at holmesacosta.com, The Friday Morning Applied Complexity
> Coffee Group <Friam at redfish.com>
> Message-ID: <013d01c68503$88ff8100$0200a8c0 at power>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
>
> Robert, I use Sonic RecordNow: www.sonic.com/products/Consumer/RecordNow/ It's pretty much built for this purpose.
>
> Although I have gotten XP to do this, it's a big pain.
> David
>
> dba | David Breecker Associates, Inc.
> www.BreeckerAssociates.com
> Abiquiu: 505-685-4891
> Santa Fe: 505-690-2335
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Robert Holmes
> To: FRIAM
> Sent: Wednesday, May 31, 2006 4:29 PM
> Subject: Re: [FRIAM] [WedTech] stupidest question ever asked on wedtech
>
>
> I'm having success with a combination of a SimpleTech 80GB external drive (fits in a shirt pocket, runs off USB, $130) and Microsoft's SyncToy (one of the few pieces of MS software that does what it's meant to and no more).
>
> Strictly speaking this isn't a pure backup solution: my problem is that I work on a couple of machines in the office and a couple at home, and I want to make sure that I've always got the latest version of data, programs etc. to hand. By syncing regularly with all these machines I avoid version problems plus I get a pretty robust distributed backup (also I can cycle to work as I'm not lugging a laptop).
>
> Robert
>
>
>
> On 5/31/06, Nicholas Thompson <nickthompson at earthlink.net> wrote:
>
> All,
>
> some months ago my tech people "rehabbed" my "old" xp machine and told me to stop being such a damn fool and back up my documents more often. So, I thought I better try to do that. So last night I tried both Iomega backup and Windows back up and they didnt work. Called the techs this morning and asked for help and they said, "Oh silly you! You arent trying to back your machine to a dvd/cd burner are you? XP doesnt DO that!" Silly me.
>
> Does anybody have a utility that backs up to CD? Also, could some body remind me of the name of the screen capture utility that you guys told me about. The "rehabb" seems to have obliterated that as well.
>
> Nick
>
>
>
>
> Nicholas Thompson
> nickthompson at earthlink.net
> http://home.earthlink.net/~nickthompson
>
>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> Wedtech mailing list
> Wedtech at redfish.com
> http://redfish.com/mailman/listinfo/wedtech_redfish.com
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
>
> ============================================================
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> Meets Fridays 9a-11:30 at cafe at St. John's College
> lectures, archives, unsubscribe, maps at http://www.friam.org
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> Message: 5
> Date: Wed, 31 May 2006 18:19:26 -0600
> From: Carlos Gershenson <cgershen at vub.ac.be>
> Subject: Re: [FRIAM] ** this Wednesday** Lecture May 31 12:30p -
> Carlos Gershenson: A General Methodology for Designing Self-Organizing
> Systems
> To: sy at synapse9.com, The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee
> Group <Friam at redfish.com>
> Cc: stephen.guerin at redfish.com
> Message-ID: <931B2E4D-448F-4B50-AEDE-B6668EE71A6C at vub.ac.be>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=WINDOWS-1252; delsp=yes;
> format=flowed
>
> Hi Phil,
>
> > "Do these methods address the response time limitations for human
> > responses to change?"
>
> The answer is yes. Self-organizing systems are precisely useful for
> that, since elements of the system try to find solutions to a problem
> by themselves, without human intervention, so they help reduce human-
> induced delays. If there's a change in the environment, the elements
> reconfigure to find the solution for the current situation.
>
> Best regards,
>
> Carlos Gershenson...
> Centrum Leo Apostel, Vrije Universiteit Brussel
> Krijgskundestraat 33. B-1160 Brussels, Belgium
> http://homepages.vub.ac.be/~cgershen/
>
> ?Tendencies tend to change...?
>
>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 6
> Date: Wed, 31 May 2006 21:44:03 -0600
> From: Owen Densmore <owen at backspaces.net>
> Subject: [FRIAM] MAKE: Blog
> To: The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Friam <friam at redfish.com>
> Message-ID: <02F91375-CF45-491A-91CC-4C2A387E860A at backspaces.net>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed
>
> I'm finding the MAKE magazine blog to be getting really good, you may
> like it too.
> http://www.makezine.com/blog/
>
> FeedReader sorta combines all the gadget blogs too, which is handy:
> http://epierce.blog.usf.edu/feeds/
>
> -- Owen
>
> Owen Densmore
> http://backspaces.net - http://redfish.com - http://friam.org
>
>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 7
> Date: Wed, 31 May 2006 20:51:55 -0700
> From: "Douglass Carmichael" <doug at dougcarmichael.com>
> Subject: Re: [FRIAM] [WedTech] stupidest question ever asked on
> wedtech
> To: "'The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group'"
> <Friam at redfish.com>
> Message-ID: <002501c6852e$bafc6210$30f52630$@com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
>
> Microsoft bought a company called Folder Share foldershare.com. It takes
> the files on multiple machines and synchs them over the internet.
> Foldershare creates a webpage with your machines and selected files, and
> continually scans, so any change in one is immediately propagated to the
> others if they are on the internet. I've been using it for several months
> and it is fine. It even deletes files on all machines that are deleted on
> any one.
>
>
>
> From: Friam-bounces at redfish.com [mailto:Friam-bounces at redfish.com] On Behalf
> Of David Breecker
> Sent: Wednesday, May 31, 2006 3:43 PM
> To: robert at holmesacosta.com; The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee
> Group
> Subject: Re: [FRIAM] [WedTech] stupidest question ever asked on wedtech
>
>
>
> Robert, I use Sonic RecordNow: www.
> <http://www.sonic.com/products/Consumer/RecordNow/>
> sonic.com/products/Consumer/RecordNow/ It's pretty much built for this
> purpose.
>
>
>
> Although I have gotten XP to do this, it's a big pain.
>
> David
>
>
>
> dba | David Breecker Associates, Inc.
> www.BreeckerAssociates.com
> Abiquiu: 505-685-4891
> Santa Fe: 505-690-2335
>
>
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
>
> From: Robert Holmes <mailto:rholmes62 at gmail.com>
>
> To: FRIAM <mailto:Friam at redfish.com>
>
> Sent: Wednesday, May 31, 2006 4:29 PM
>
> Subject: Re: [FRIAM] [WedTech] stupidest question ever asked on wedtech
>
>
>
> I'm having success with a combination of a SimpleTech 80GB external drive
> (fits in a shirt pocket, runs off USB, $130) and Microsoft's SyncToy (one of
> the few pieces of MS software that does what it's meant to and no more).
>
> Strictly speaking this isn't a pure backup solution: my problem is that I
> work on a couple of machines in the office and a couple at home, and I want
> to make sure that I've always got the latest version of data, programs etc.
> to hand. By syncing regularly with all these machines I avoid version
> problems plus I get a pretty robust distributed backup (also I can cycle to
> work as I'm not lugging a laptop).
>
> Robert
>
>
>
> On 5/31/06, Nicholas Thompson <nickthompson at earthlink.net> wrote:
>
> All,
>
>
>
> some months ago my tech people "rehabbed" my "old" xp machine and told me to
> stop being such a damn fool and back up my documents more often. So, I
> thought I better try to do that. So last night I tried both Iomega backup
> and Windows back up and they didnt work. Called the techs this morning and
> asked for help and they said, "Oh silly you! You arent trying to back your
> machine to a dvd/cd burner are you? XP doesnt DO that!" Silly me.
>
>
>
> Does anybody have a utility that backs up to CD? Also, could some body
> remind me of the name of the screen capture utility that you guys told me
> about. The "rehabb" seems to have obliterated that as well.
>
>
>
> Nick
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Nicholas Thompson
>
> nickthompson at earthlink.net
>
> http://home.earthlink.net/~nickthompson
> <http://home.earthlink.net/%7Enickthompson>
>
>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> Wedtech mailing list
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>
>
>
>
>
> _____
>
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Owen Densmore

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Besides my rant, here's what I actually do:
1 - There is a truly wonderful backup and system back-out program
called SuperDuper:
http://tinyurl.com/6krpz
2 - Buy a firewire 800 backup disk if at all possible, but a firewire
400 or USB 2 will also work.

This combination can do several truly marvelous things:
- Make a fully bootable backup of your system in a short time,
generally < 20 minutes.
- Backout system upgrades that fail for you for any reason. This is
really nice when you get an OS upgrade that for some reason causes
your system to act badly.
- For laptop users: if your backup disk is the same form factor as
your laptops, you simply swap drives and are on the air again.

The difficulty is getting yourself disciplined enough to backup often
enough. A few solutions I use for that all are about quick, simple
updates.
- For most programming, a CVS or similar version control is great.
These can be hosted by your hosting service or other cvs/svn hosting
services.
- For many web oriented systems like Java, Netlogo, and Processing,
simply posting/deploying the application includes the source and the
libraries, thus backing up the project.
- Keep a modestly large USB FlashDrive in your system, and
periodically back up your current doc/project to that with simple
drag 'n drop. This is surprisingly useful.
- The above, but with a simple script that saves the files you
actually create, minus large things like images etc. My entire
source hierarchy or document hierarchy fits on a GB flash drive, and
with some reasonable conventions, both do. Yup, another script.
- Sometimes a backup on your own system is quite reasonable as long
as you only loose a document or folder, not your whole disk. I built
a small shell script:
bkup (){
d=`date +"%y%m%d-%H%M%S"`
for f in $@ ; do f1=$f-$d; echo $f1; cp -Rp $f ~/bkups/$f1; done
}
This uses a directory in my home directory (bkups/) which gets
populated with files and folders with a date stamp:
owen|~/src/Processing[521]: bkup Stadium
Stadium-060601-160842
So when I backup my current Processing project, Stadium, it date
stamps it and recursively saves all the files in the project. This
is even useful if you DO loose your disk .. sometimes only part of
the disk is damaged so keeping all your docs, projects, etc
duplicated several times on you system helps even with a failure.

Finally, the "right" solution with today's huge disks even for
laptops is to hope the manufacturers go to RAID disk mirroring so
that your data is duplicated in hardware. I hope we don't have to
wait too long for this.

Although these may seem Unix-y or Mac-y, I think they all are
available for Windows too.

-- Owen

Owen Densmore
http://backspaces.net - http://redfish.com - http://friam.org

On Jun 1, 2006, at 9:47 AM, Nicholas Thompson wrote:

> Thanks, everybody
>
> When I looked into David's suggestion for backup software for use
> with a CD, I quickly got to the following, which seemed to be a
> specific product designed for this specific purpose by the same
> company at the same price as opposed to RecordNow which is more a
> music application. . Detailed product description follows.
>
> BackUp MyPC 2006 - ESD
>
> Price: USD 49.99
> TAX/VAT may apply for certain countries. Exact details are provided
> before the order is completed.
> Shipment: Download, License key
> Platform: Windows 2000, Windows XP
> Version: 6
> Language: English
> Option: Backup CD [Info]
> File Size: Full version: 29.4 MB
> Download Time: Full version
> # 56k: ~69 Min.
> # DSL/Cable: ~5 Min.
> # T1: ~3 Min.
>
> Short of trashing my PC, which was Owen's suggestion, I thought I
> might go for it
>
>
> Nicholas Thompson
> nickthompson at earthlink.net
> http://home.earthlink.net/~nickthompson
>
>
>> [Original Message]
>> From: <Friam-request at redfish.com>
>> To: <Friam at redfish.com>
>> Date: 5/31/2006 11:52:13 PM
>> Subject: Friam Digest, Vol 35, Issue 34
>>
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>> Today's Topics:
>>
>> 1. NEW TIES project on evolving culture (Jochen Fromm)
>> 2. Re: [WedTech] stupidest question ever asked on wedtech
>> (Robert Holmes)
>> 3. Re: [WedTech] stupidest question ever asked on wedtech
>> (Russell Standish)
>> 4. Re: [WedTech] stupidest question ever asked on wedtech
>> (David Breecker)
>> 5. Re: ** this Wednesday** Lecture May 31 12:30p - Carlos
>> Gershenson: A General Methodology for Designing Self-Organizing
>> Systems (Carlos Gershenson)
>> 6. MAKE: Blog (Owen Densmore)
>> 7. Re: [WedTech] stupidest question ever asked on wedtech
>> (Douglass Carmichael)
>>
>>
>> ---------------------------------------------------------------------
>> -
>>
>> Message: 1
>> Date: Wed, 31 May 2006 18:20:50 +0200
>> From: "Jochen Fromm" <fromm at vs.uni-kassel.de>
>> Subject: [FRIAM] NEW TIES project on evolving culture
>> To: "'The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group'"
>> <Friam at redfish.com>
>> Message-ID: <001301c684ce$2e920a10$976fa8c0 at Toshiba>
>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
>>
>>
>> The NEW TIES research project was recently in the news
>> as an "European research project that will study social
>> interactions between millions of virtual human beings"
>> http://www.infoworld.com/article/
>> 06/05/19/78497_HNsoftwarebeings_1.html
>>
>> Do we have a scientist from the "New Ties" project
>> in the FRIAM group or do you know something about it ?
>> http://www.new-ties.org
>>
>> -J.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> ------------------------------
>>
>> Message: 2
>> Date: Wed, 31 May 2006 16:29:39 -0600
>> From: "Robert Holmes" <rholmes62 at gmail.com>
>> Subject: Re: [FRIAM] [WedTech] stupidest question ever asked on
>> wedtech
>> To: FRIAM <Friam at redfish.com>
>> Message-ID:
>> <857770150605311529t46a84f51r4f744ad3eba66620 at mail.gmail.com>
>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
>>
>> I'm having success with a combination of a SimpleTech 80GB
>> external drive
>> (fits in a shirt pocket, runs off USB, $130) and Microsoft's
>> SyncToy (one of
>> the few pieces of MS software that does what it's meant to and no
>> more).
>>
>> Strictly speaking this isn't a pure backup solution: my problem is
>> that I
>> work on a couple of machines in the office and a couple at home,
>> and I want
>> to make sure that I've always got the latest version of data,
>> programs etc.
>> to hand. By syncing regularly with all these machines I avoid version
>> problems plus I get a pretty robust distributed backup (also I can
>> cycle to
>> work as I'm not lugging a laptop).
>>
>> Robert
>>
>>
>> On 5/31/06, Nicholas Thompson <nickthompson at earthlink.net> wrote:
>>>
>>> All,
>>>
>>> some months ago my tech people "rehabbed" my "old" xp machine and
>>> told me
>>> to stop being such a damn fool and back up my documents more
>>> often. So, I
>>> thought I better try to do that. So last night I tried both
>>> Iomega backup
>>> and Windows back up and they didnt work. Called the techs this
>>> morning and
>>> asked for help and they said, "Oh silly you! You arent trying
>>> to back your
>>> machine to a dvd/cd burner are you? XP doesnt DO that!" Silly me.
>>>
>>> Does anybody have a utility that backs up to CD? Also, could
>>> some body
>>> remind me of the name of the screen capture utility that you guys
>>> told me
>>> about. The "rehabb" seems to have obliterated that as well.
>>>
>>> Nick
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Nicholas Thompson
>>> nickthompson at earthlink.net
>>> http://home.earthlink.net/~nickthompson<http://home.earthlink.net/
>>> %7Enickthompson>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> _______________________________________________
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>> Message: 3
>> Date: Thu, 1 Jun 2006 08:41:36 +1000
>> From: Russell Standish <r.standish at unsw.edu.au>
>> Subject: Re: [FRIAM] [WedTech] stupidest question ever asked on
>> wedtech
>> To: robert at holmesacosta.com, The Friday Morning Applied Complexity
>> Coffee Group <Friam at redfish.com>
>> Message-ID: <20060531224136.GB1193 at mpi.nsw.bigpond.net.au>
>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
>>
>> Some people seriously use a version control system like SVN. You
>> could
>> keep a SVN repository of your working directories on the portable
>> harddrive.
>>
>> On Wed, May 31, 2006 at 04:29:39PM -0600, Robert Holmes wrote:
>>> I'm having success with a combination of a SimpleTech 80GB
>>> external drive
>>> (fits in a shirt pocket, runs off USB, $130) and Microsoft's
>>> SyncToy (one of
>>> the few pieces of MS software that does what it's meant to and no
>>> more).
>>>
>>> Strictly speaking this isn't a pure backup solution: my problem
>>> is that I
>>> work on a couple of machines in the office and a couple at home,
>>> and I want
>>> to make sure that I've always got the latest version of data,
>>> programs etc.
>>> to hand. By syncing regularly with all these machines I avoid
>>> version
>>> problems plus I get a pretty robust distributed backup (also I
>>> can cycle to
>>> work as I'm not lugging a laptop).
>>>
>>> Robert
>>>
>>>
>>> On 5/31/06, Nicholas Thompson <nickthompson at earthlink.net> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> All,
>>>>
>>>> some months ago my tech people "rehabbed" my "old" xp machine
>>>> and told me
>>>> to stop being such a damn fool and back up my documents more
>>>> often. So, I
>>>> thought I better try to do that. So last night I tried both
>>>> Iomega backup
>>>> and Windows back up and they didnt work. Called the techs this
>>>> morning and
>>>> asked for help and they said, "Oh silly you! You arent trying
>>>> to back
>>>> your
>>>> machine to a dvd/cd burner are you? XP doesnt DO that!" Silly me.
>>>>
>>>> Does anybody have a utility that backs up to CD? Also, could
>>>> some body
>>>> remind me of the name of the screen capture utility that you
>>>> guys told me
>>>> about. The "rehabb" seems to have obliterated that as well.
>>>>
>>>> Nick
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Nicholas Thompson
>>>> nickthompson at earthlink.net
>>>> http://home.earthlink.net/~nickthompson<http://
>>>> home.earthlink.net/%7Enickthompson>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>> Wedtech mailing list
>>>> Wedtech at redfish.com
>>>> http://redfish.com/mailman/listinfo/wedtech_redfish.com
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>
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>> ---------------------------------------------------------------------
>> -------
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>>
>> ------------------------------
>>
>> Message: 4
>> Date: Wed, 31 May 2006 16:42:38 -0600
>> From: David Breecker <David at BreeckerAssociates.com>
>> Subject: Re: [FRIAM] [WedTech] stupidest question ever asked on
>> wedtech
>> To: robert at holmesacosta.com, The Friday Morning Applied Complexity
>> Coffee Group <Friam at redfish.com>
>> Message-ID: <013d01c68503$88ff8100$0200a8c0 at power>
>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
>>
>> Robert, I use Sonic RecordNow: www.sonic.com/products/Consumer/
>> RecordNow/ It's pretty much built for this purpose.
>>
>> Although I have gotten XP to do this, it's a big pain.
>> David
>>
>> dba | David Breecker Associates, Inc.
>> www.BreeckerAssociates.com
>> Abiquiu: 505-685-4891
>> Santa Fe: 505-690-2335
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: Robert Holmes
>> To: FRIAM
>> Sent: Wednesday, May 31, 2006 4:29 PM
>> Subject: Re: [FRIAM] [WedTech] stupidest question ever asked on
>> wedtech
>>
>>
>> I'm having success with a combination of a SimpleTech 80GB
>> external drive (fits in a shirt pocket, runs off USB, $130) and
>> Microsoft's SyncToy (one of the few pieces of MS software that
>> does what it's meant to and no more).
>>
>> Strictly speaking this isn't a pure backup solution: my problem
>> is that I work on a couple of machines in the office and a couple
>> at home, and I want to make sure that I've always got the latest
>> version of data, programs etc. to hand. By syncing regularly with
>> all these machines I avoid version problems plus I get a pretty
>> robust distributed backup (also I can cycle to work as I'm not
>> lugging a laptop).
>>
>> Robert
>>
>>
>>
>> On 5/31/06, Nicholas Thompson <nickthompson at earthlink.net> wrote:
>>
>> All,
>>
>> some months ago my tech people "rehabbed" my "old" xp machine
>> and told me to stop being such a damn fool and back up my
>> documents more often. So, I thought I better try to do that. So
>> last night I tried both Iomega backup and Windows back up and they
>> didnt work. Called the techs this morning and asked for help and
>> they said, "Oh silly you! You arent trying to back your machine
>> to a dvd/cd burner are you? XP doesnt DO that!" Silly me.
>>
>> Does anybody have a utility that backs up to CD? Also, could
>> some body remind me of the name of the screen capture utility that
>> you guys told me about. The "rehabb" seems to have obliterated
>> that as well.
>>
>> Nick
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Nicholas Thompson
>> nickthompson at earthlink.net
>> http://home.earthlink.net/~nickthompson
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> Wedtech mailing list
>> Wedtech at redfish.com
>> http://redfish.com/mailman/listinfo/wedtech_redfish.com
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> ---------------------------------------------------------------------
>> ---------
>>
>>
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>> Message: 5
>> Date: Wed, 31 May 2006 18:19:26 -0600
>> From: Carlos Gershenson <cgershen at vub.ac.be>
>> Subject: Re: [FRIAM] ** this Wednesday** Lecture May 31 12:30p -
>> Carlos Gershenson: A General Methodology for Designing Self-
>> Organizing
>> Systems
>> To: sy at synapse9.com, The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee
>> Group <Friam at redfish.com>
>> Cc: stephen.guerin at redfish.com
>> Message-ID: <931B2E4D-448F-4B50-AEDE-B6668EE71A6C at vub.ac.be>
>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=WINDOWS-1252; delsp=yes;
>> format=flowed
>>
>> Hi Phil,
>>
>>> "Do these methods address the response time limitations for human
>>> responses to change?"
>>
>> The answer is yes. Self-organizing systems are precisely useful for
>> that, since elements of the system try to find solutions to a problem
>> by themselves, without human intervention, so they help reduce human-
>> induced delays. If there's a change in the environment, the elements
>> reconfigure to find the solution for the current situation.
>>
>> Best regards,
>>
>> Carlos Gershenson...
>> Centrum Leo Apostel, Vrije Universiteit Brussel
>> Krijgskundestraat 33. B-1160 Brussels, Belgium
>> http://homepages.vub.ac.be/~cgershen/
>>
>> ?Tendencies tend to change...?
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> ------------------------------
>>
>> Message: 6
>> Date: Wed, 31 May 2006 21:44:03 -0600
>> From: Owen Densmore <owen at backspaces.net>
>> Subject: [FRIAM] MAKE: Blog
>> To: The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Friam <friam at redfish.com>
>> Message-ID: <02F91375-CF45-491A-91CC-4C2A387E860A at backspaces.net>
>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed
>>
>> I'm finding the MAKE magazine blog to be getting really good, you may
>> like it too.
>> http://www.makezine.com/blog/
>>
>> FeedReader sorta combines all the gadget blogs too, which is handy:
>> http://epierce.blog.usf.edu/feeds/
>>
>> -- Owen
>>
>> Owen Densmore
>> http://backspaces.net - http://redfish.com - http://friam.org
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> ------------------------------
>>
>> Message: 7
>> Date: Wed, 31 May 2006 20:51:55 -0700
>> From: "Douglass Carmichael" <doug at dougcarmichael.com>
>> Subject: Re: [FRIAM] [WedTech] stupidest question ever asked on
>> wedtech
>> To: "'The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group'"
>> <Friam at redfish.com>
>> Message-ID: <002501c6852e$bafc6210$30f52630$@com>
>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
>>
>> Microsoft bought a company called Folder Share foldershare.com.
>> It takes
>> the files on multiple machines and synchs them over the internet.
>> Foldershare creates a webpage with your machines and selected
>> files, and
>> continually scans, so any change in one is immediately propagated
>> to the
>> others if they are on the internet. I've been using it for several
>> months
>> and it is fine. It even deletes files on all machines that are
>> deleted on
>> any one.
>>
>>
>>
>> From: Friam-bounces at redfish.com [mailto:Friam-bounces at redfish.com]
>> On Behalf
>> Of David Breecker
>> Sent: Wednesday, May 31, 2006 3:43 PM
>> To: robert at holmesacosta.com; The Friday Morning Applied Complexity
>> Coffee
>> Group
>> Subject: Re: [FRIAM] [WedTech] stupidest question ever asked on
>> wedtech
>>
>>
>>
>> Robert, I use Sonic RecordNow: www.
>> <http://www.sonic.com/products/Consumer/RecordNow/>
>> sonic.com/products/Consumer/RecordNow/ It's pretty much built for
>> this
>> purpose.
>>
>>
>>
>> Although I have gotten XP to do this, it's a big pain.
>>
>> David
>>
>>
>>
>> dba | David Breecker Associates, Inc.
>> www.BreeckerAssociates.com
>> Abiquiu: 505-685-4891
>> Santa Fe: 505-690-2335
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>>
>> From: Robert Holmes <mailto:rholmes62 at gmail.com>
>>
>> To: FRIAM <mailto:Friam at redfish.com>
>>
>> Sent: Wednesday, May 31, 2006 4:29 PM
>>
>> Subject: Re: [FRIAM] [WedTech] stupidest question ever asked on
>> wedtech
>>
>>
>>
>> I'm having success with a combination of a SimpleTech 80GB
>> external drive
>> (fits in a shirt pocket, runs off USB, $130) and Microsoft's
>> SyncToy (one of
>> the few pieces of MS software that does what it's meant to and no
>> more).
>>
>> Strictly speaking this isn't a pure backup solution: my problem is
>> that I
>> work on a couple of machines in the office and a couple at home,
>> and I want
>> to make sure that I've always got the latest version of data,
>> programs etc.
>> to hand. By syncing regularly with all these machines I avoid version
>> problems plus I get a pretty robust distributed backup (also I can
>> cycle to
>> work as I'm not lugging a laptop).
>>
>> Robert
>>
>>
>>
>> On 5/31/06, Nicholas Thompson <nickthompson at earthlink.net> wrote:
>>
>> All,
>>
>>
>>
>> some months ago my tech people "rehabbed" my "old" xp machine and
>> told me to
>> stop being such a damn fool and back up my documents more often.
>> So, I
>> thought I better try to do that. So last night I tried both
>> Iomega backup
>> and Windows back up and they didnt work. Called the techs this
>> morning and
>> asked for help and they said, "Oh silly you! You arent trying to
>> back your
>> machine to a dvd/cd burner are you? XP doesnt DO that!" Silly me.
>>
>>
>>
>> Does anybody have a utility that backs up to CD? Also, could some
>> body
>> remind me of the name of the screen capture utility that you guys
>> told me
>> about. The "rehabb" seems to have obliterated that as well.
>>
>>
>>
>> Nick
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Nicholas Thompson
>>
>> nickthompson at earthlink.net
>>
>> http://home.earthlink.net/~nickthompson
>> <http://home.earthlink.net/%7Enickthompson>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> Wedtech mailing list
>> Wedtech at redfish.com
>> http://redfish.com/mailman/listinfo/wedtech_redfish.com
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> _____
>>
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