I fought the whole weekend against the Win32/Tenga.a or W32/Stanit virus. Finally I succeeded, but this resilient and resistant vermin really started to "bug" me. The nasty parasite is very hard to destroy without damaging your system severely, because it infects nearly all Exe files, especially those in the Windows and System directories. Before I realized it, the virus had infected over 900 Exe files on my old Windows 98 system in an instant. Wikipedia says correctly: "Unlike biological viruses, computer viruses do not simply evolve by themselves, except in the cases where copying errors and recombination have led to actual evolution of computer viruses; however, these cases are very rare compared to the rapid generation of new malware by human programmers. They cannot come into existence spontaneously, nor can they be created by bugs in regular programs. They are deliberately created by programmers, or by people who use virus creation software." http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Computer_virus http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Virus What if someone writes a resistant virus which is able to mutate and modify itself? Would it be a dangerous threat? Or would it be interesting to create a biotope for artificial viruses, a place where they can live, mutate and replicate? Tom Ray made a first try with Tierra, but much more sophisticated landscapes and environments are possible. What do you think? -J. |
Precisely why I run Linux. For those few times that I need to run a Windows
application, I run it in a Windows nicely encapsulated in VMWare and tucked away behind a couple of good firewalls. I would love to know how many productive person-hours have been lost to the kind of activity described below. --Doug On 12/19/05, Jochen Fromm <fromm at vs.uni-kassel.de> wrote: > > > I fought the whole weekend against the Win32/Tenga.a > or W32/Stanit virus. Finally I succeeded, but this > resilient and resistant vermin really started to "bug" me. > The nasty parasite is very hard to destroy without damaging > your system severely, because it infects nearly all Exe files, > especially those in the Windows and System directories. > Before I realized it, the virus had infected over 900 Exe > files on my old Windows 98 system in an instant. > > Wikipedia says correctly: "Unlike biological viruses, > computer viruses do not simply evolve by themselves, > except in the cases where copying errors and recombination > have led to actual evolution of computer viruses; however, > these cases are very rare compared to the rapid generation > of new malware by human programmers. They cannot come into > existence spontaneously, nor can they be created by bugs > in regular programs. They are deliberately created by > programmers, or by people who use virus creation software." > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Computer_virus > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Virus > > What if someone writes a resistant virus which is able to > mutate and modify itself? Would it be a dangerous threat? > Or would it be interesting to create a biotope for > artificial viruses, a place where they can live, > mutate and replicate? Tom Ray made a first try with > Tierra, but much more sophisticated landscapes and > environments are possible. What do you think? > > -J. > > > ============================================================ > FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv > Meets Fridays 9a-11:30 at Mission Cafe > lectures, archives, unsubscribe, maps at http://www.friam.org > -- Doug Roberts 505-455-7333 - Office 505-670-8195 - Cell -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://redfish.com/pipermail/friam_redfish.com/attachments/20051219/b8b85fce/attachment.htm |
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> What if someone writes a resistant virus which is able to
> mutate and modify itself? Would it be a dangerous threat? > Or would it be interesting to create a biotope for > artificial viruses, a place where they can live, > mutate and replicate? Tom Ray made a first try with > Tierra, but much more sophisticated landscapes and > environments are possible. What do you think? I wonder how difficult that would actually be to do. There's some book I read a long long time ago where they actually used a model from malware as the foundation for some kind of time-budgeting system, I think on a university network or something. (I wish I could remember more.) -- Giles Bowkett = Giles Goat Boy http://www.gilesgoatboy.org/ |
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Jochen - I'm curious, how did you contract the virus? I ask because I don't
use anti-virus software (at least not localy, I think some is running on the Gmail server) - instead, I just don't open emails or attachments that I don't recognise. This has served me well for the past decade - am I just being lucky or do I need to change my strategy? Robert On 12/19/05, Jochen Fromm <fromm at vs.uni-kassel.de> wrote: > > > I fought the whole weekend against the Win32/Tenga.a > or W32/Stanit virus. Finally I succeeded, but this > resilient and resistant vermin really started to "bug" me. > The nasty parasite is very hard to destroy without damaging > your system severely, because it infects nearly all Exe files, > especially those in the Windows and System directories. > Before I realized it, the virus had infected over 900 Exe > files on my old Windows 98 system in an instant. > > Wikipedia says correctly: "Unlike biological viruses, > computer viruses do not simply evolve by themselves, > except in the cases where copying errors and recombination > have led to actual evolution of computer viruses; however, > these cases are very rare compared to the rapid generation > of new malware by human programmers. They cannot come into > existence spontaneously, nor can they be created by bugs > in regular programs. They are deliberately created by > programmers, or by people who use virus creation software." > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Computer_virus > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Virus > > What if someone writes a resistant virus which is able to > mutate and modify itself? Would it be a dangerous threat? > Or would it be interesting to create a biotope for > artificial viruses, a place where they can live, > mutate and replicate? Tom Ray made a first try with > Tierra, but much more sophisticated landscapes and > environments are possible. What do you think? > > -J. > > > ============================================================ > FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv > Meets Fridays 9a-11:30 at Mission Cafe > lectures, archives, unsubscribe, maps at http://www.friam.org > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://redfish.com/pipermail/friam_redfish.com/attachments/20051219/97c57455/attachment.htm |
Of course I don't open suspicious e-Mail attachments, too. I guess the virus came in over the network share on drive C: (perhaps through the use of a random IP address and some form of IPC/Inter-Process Communication mechanism). In order to exchange data between my Laptop and my computer, I experimented with a network share on the boot drive C:, and forgot to remove it. Like other worms, the Virus Win32.Tenga.a (also named W32/Gael or W32/Stanit) seems to infect Windows machines with open file shares. I would definitely recommend to remove any unnecessary file shares and to install an anti-virus software, otherwise you might not notice a worm or virus at all until it is too late. I use "AntiVir" from the German Company H+BEDV because it is free (http://www.antivir.de/), but any other anti-virus software will do it as well. -J. ________________________________ Von: Friam-bounces at redfish.com [mailto:Friam-bounces at redfish.com] Im Auftrag von Robert Holmes Gesendet: Montag, 19. Dezember 2005 18:01 An: The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group Betreff: Re: [FRIAM] Viruses and ALife Jochen - I'm curious, how did you contract the virus? I ask because I don't use anti-virus software (at least not localy, I think some is running on the Gmail server) - instead, I just don't open emails or attachments that I don't recognise. This has served me well for the past decade - am I just being lucky or do I need to change my strategy? Robert |
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On 12/19/05, Robert Holmes <rholmes62 at gmail.com> wrote:
> Jochen - I'm curious, how did you contract the virus? I ask because I don't > use anti-virus software (at least not localy, I think some is running on the > Gmail server) - instead, I just don't open emails or attachments that I > don't recognise. This has served me well for the past decade - am I just > being lucky or do I need to change my strategy? As a corporate desktop-support guy, this falls into my baliwick. Modern viruses spread more and more like "real" viruses, that is, they take advantage of the permiability of the computer's interfaces with the world, and shortcomings of the computer's immune-system. Just not opening attachements may not be enough. Just like in the real-world, not licking doorknobs in not enough to prevent getting a cold. Just existing on the network, with a compromised "skin" or weak "immune system", puts one at risk. In the case of Win32/Tenga, the virus (acting as what is technically called a "worm") running on some computer, somewhere, scans the network looking for computers that have a particular immune system problem, in this case, a particular vulnerability with a part of Windows RPC (remote procedure call) feature. Once found, the virus injects viral code into the computer through the vulnerability, and thus, reproduces (or does whatever else it wants to do with your computer). E-mail has nothing to do with it. RPC, or remote procedure call, is a method where one computer can ask another computer to execute programs. It's a very useful and good thing to have, and is, when working properly, safe. However, there are mistakes in the RPC system that allow more than the intended effects. When they are discovered, people write viruses to take advantage. Tenga can inject attack code into the computer through a particular RPC vulnerability. This was addressed in windows patch MS03-026. Of course, virus variants are created to take advantage of newly discovered (or newly created) vulnerabilities. Because your computer can be attacked and get infected simply by existing on a network (especially if your network is always-on and you have an real internet-accessible IP address), it is most important to keep your system updated with new critical updates, as they are released. For windows users this means visiting the Windows Updates website once a month, at least, or enabling "automatic updates", or participating in your enterprise's patching and updating program. It is equally, if not more, important to either keep your computer behind a local router, which affords some firewall-like protection, or (and) to run a "personal firewall" on the computer too. Firewalls protect the computer from unknown, as well as known, threats, by preventing unauthorized attempts to connect into your computer--like a bandage preventing anything from penetrating its "skin". It is thirdly important to run anti-virus software and anti-spyware software, to deal with known and some unknown threats that make it anyway, or via other channels (such as attachments). I also use Anti-Vir, and microsoft's Anti-Spyware(beta) (at the office, they use TrendMicro Enterprise Anti-virus, and Anti-Spyware, and Patchlink, and LANDesk). ~~James > > Robert > > On 12/19/05, Jochen Fromm <fromm at vs.uni-kassel.de> wrote: > > > > I fought the whole weekend against the Win32/Tenga.a > > or W32/Stanit virus. Finally I succeeded, but this > > resilient and resistant vermin really started to "bug" me. > > The nasty parasite is very hard to destroy without damaging > > your system severely, because it infects nearly all Exe files, > > especially those in the Windows and System directories. > > Before I realized it, the virus had infected over 900 Exe > > files on my old Windows 98 system in an instant. > > > > Wikipedia says correctly: "Unlike biological viruses, > > computer viruses do not simply evolve by themselves, > > except in the cases where copying errors and recombination > > have led to actual evolution of computer viruses; however, > > these cases are very rare compared to the rapid generation > > of new malware by human programmers. They cannot come into > > existence spontaneously, nor can they be created by bugs > > in regular programs. They are deliberately created by > > programmers, or by people who use virus creation software." > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Computer_virus > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Virus > > > > What if someone writes a resistant virus which is able to > > mutate and modify itself? Would it be a dangerous threat? > > Or would it be interesting to create a biotope for > > artificial viruses, a place where they can live, > > mutate and replicate? Tom Ray made a first try with > > Tierra, but much more sophisticated landscapes and > > environments are possible. What do you think? > > > > -J. > > > > > > > ============================================================ > > FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv > > Meets Fridays 9a-11:30 at Mission Cafe > > lectures, archives, unsubscribe, maps at http://www.friam.org > > > > > ============================================================ > FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv > Meets Fridays 9a-11:30 at Mission Cafe > lectures, archives, unsubscribe, maps at http://www.friam.org > > -- ~~James _____________________________________ turtlezero.com -- its turtles, all the way down! |
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