Truth vs. Social Justice on college campuses
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"If we assume Trump is the master of ambiguous linguistics Lakoff thinks he is, then he already understands this, at least tacitly. Trump (under this idea) purposefully forms his expressions so that there are unbound variables that are likely to be bound by the listener."
I think it is more likely he does it to collect data. It's how he figures out what his fans want -- perhaps how he knows anything at all-- he wants people to reveal the binding. If he just wanted to pacify people, he wouldn't make so many easily-falsifiable claims. What you say about creating multivalent bonds might be a good way to neutralize a person born to confuse and double cross.. but it seems easier said than done. Marcus ============================================================ FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv Meets Fridays 9a-11:30 at cafe at St. John's College to unsubscribe http://redfish.com/mailman/listinfo/friam_redfish.com FRIAM-COMIC http://friam-comic.blogspot.com/ by Dr. Strangelove |
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That link didn't work for me. But here's another one: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9P1IVQJdVvE I know that strategy works because people use it on me all the time! 8^) I think those dastardly elites call it "Socratic". On 12/08/2016 02:49 PM, Steven A Smith wrote: > It sounds almost like it could reduce to Trevor Noah's recent show on how to handle Trump in the way you must with a Toddler? > > http://www.ew.com/article/2016/11/30/trevor-noah-donald-trump-toddler -- ☣ glen ============================================================ FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv Meets Fridays 9a-11:30 at cafe at St. John's College to unsubscribe http://redfish.com/mailman/listinfo/friam_redfish.com FRIAM-COMIC http://friam-comic.blogspot.com/ by Dr. Strangelove
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In reply to this post by Marcus G. Daniels
That's all too reasonable to argue with. 8^(
On 12/08/2016 02:58 PM, Marcus Daniels wrote: > I think it is more likely he does it to collect data. It's how he figures out what his fans want -- perhaps how he knows anything at all-- he wants people to reveal the binding. If he just wanted to pacify people, he wouldn't make so many easily-falsifiable claims. What you say about creating multivalent bonds might be a good way to neutralize a person born to confuse and double cross.. but it seems easier said than done. -- ☣ glen ============================================================ FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv Meets Fridays 9a-11:30 at cafe at St. John's College to unsubscribe http://redfish.com/mailman/listinfo/friam_redfish.com FRIAM-COMIC http://friam-comic.blogspot.com/ by Dr. Strangelove
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Re: Truth vs. Social Justice on college campuses
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Little Glennie -
Sorry for the sloppy linking... I DO think it works with all of us when we are being petulant/belligerent in our willful beliefs. I have already shifted my confrontational mode (looming, lowering my voice, narrowing my eyes) with Trumpsters and trying variations of the Trevor Noah formula for toddlers... it yields surprisingly good results... I had a boss for a while who another colleague characterized as being of the type who "when you tell him you didn't understand something he said, he just repeats himself, only louder"... I nearly threw him down a stairwell once... but my kinder/gentler nature prevailed... I only wish I had Trevor Noah's advice in my head at that time, but I suspect Trevor was (literally) a toddler himself at that time! I'm not sure this is pure Socratic, but does carry it's form... it is a bit passive aggressive and/or manipulative to deserve such an idealized term, don't you think? Carry On! - Little Stevie > That link didn't work for me. But here's another one: > > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9P1IVQJdVvE > > I know that strategy works because people use it on me all the time! 8^) I think those dastardly elites call it "Socratic". > > On 12/08/2016 02:49 PM, Steven A Smith wrote: >> It sounds almost like it could reduce to Trevor Noah's recent show on how to handle Trump in the way you must with a Toddler? >> >> http://www.ew.com/article/2016/11/30/trevor-noah-donald-trump-toddler ============================================================ FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv Meets Fridays 9a-11:30 at cafe at St. John's College to unsubscribe http://redfish.com/mailman/listinfo/friam_redfish.com FRIAM-COMIC http://friam-comic.blogspot.com/ by Dr. Strangelove |
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I dunno about "pure". But it definitely reminded me of Euthyphro. On 12/08/2016 03:56 PM, Steven A Smith wrote: > I'm not sure this is pure Socratic, but does carry it's form... it is a bit passive aggressive and/or manipulative to deserve such an idealized term, don't you think? -- ☣ glen ============================================================ FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv Meets Fridays 9a-11:30 at cafe at St. John's College to unsubscribe http://redfish.com/mailman/listinfo/friam_redfish.com FRIAM-COMIC http://friam-comic.blogspot.com/ by Dr. Strangelove
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Glen -
You (or I) too could perhaps have 15 seconds of (in)fame if you can engage "his Orangeness" in a Eurythrophetic twitter exchange on the definition of Piety (or "what is a Wall?" or ... "what is a Hoax?"... "what is a Climate?", "what is a landslide")... Reviewing their exchange (Socrates and Euthphyro), I can imagine why his antagonists wanted to take him down... he sure does come off as painfully argumentative sometimes... reminds me of a famous line on FriAM a few years ago, I think it went "You can be such an a**hole sometimes" But I take it as a fact that Socrates was extremely precise in his choice of words (ideas) as I believe you to be... - Steve On 12/8/16 5:06 PM, glen ☣ wrote: > I dunno about "pure". But it definitely reminded me of Euthyphro. > > On 12/08/2016 03:56 PM, Steven A Smith wrote: >> I'm not sure this is pure Socratic, but does carry it's form... it is a bit passive aggressive and/or manipulative to deserve such an idealized term, don't you think? ============================================================ FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv Meets Fridays 9a-11:30 at cafe at St. John's College to unsubscribe http://redfish.com/mailman/listinfo/friam_redfish.com FRIAM-COMIC http://friam-comic.blogspot.com/ by Dr. Strangelove |
Εὐθύφρων was: Euthyphro vs Socrates
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correction-"Euthyphrotic" and "Euthyphro" (and to think I once studied Greek!)
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Ha! Yes. Perhaps that's exactly what Noah was talking about. >8^) But to be fair, we're all toddlers to some extent. I've always been confused about why child-like is a compliment but childish is an insult.
On December 8, 2016 5:54:43 PM PST, Steven A Smith <[hidden email]> wrote: >... reminds me of a famous line on >FriAM a few years ago, I think it went "You can be such an a**hole >sometimes" -- glen ============================================================ FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv Meets Fridays 9a-11:30 at cafe at St. John's College to unsubscribe http://redfish.com/mailman/listinfo/friam_redfish.com FRIAM-COMIC http://friam-comic.blogspot.com/ by Dr. Strangelove
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