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Tom Johnson

Transforming the Postsecondary Professional Education Experience -- Campus Technology

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Transforming the Postsecondary Professional Education Experience
A Q&A with Thomas A. Finholt
https://campustechnology.com/Articles/2018/04/16/Transforming-the-Postsecondary-Professional-Education-Experience.aspx?s=ct_in_040518&mkt_tok=eyJpIjoiTVRFeE1EVTVPRFJtTWpSaSIsInQiOiJCOGhlK2U2d3l5R3BodGpScFQrUk5MNlNGWnh5Y3EreWtYVnhtWm1MY01DcXkwTWN2OTBxa25oVFdMa3Y0RDd2NklUNGtFMTFWU2ZnM3g0SCtQUE05VWlaaWM1MXRzSld0UWg5WmZVM1prV2hKSWZ3N3RvTTBoTWlVMFJQYlJiZiJ9&Page=1

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Marcus G. Daniels

Re: Transforming the Postsecondary Professional Education Experience -- Campus Technology

“As a measure of the magnitude of impact of MOOCs so far, one of our MOOC specializations in the Python programming language is among the most popular offerings on Coursera — I believe that it has reached more than a million learners at this point. A significant fraction of those learners have opted to sit for an exam to get a certificate in Python programming.”

<Huff> A person that seeks a Coursera class to learn Python is not destined for a career in software development.

“Also, we introduced an Applied Data Science specialization about a year ago. That one, though not receiving enrollments at quite the same level as the Python specialization, is generating tens of thousands of learners per quarter.”

Thousands of learners or thousands of people who create a filtering problem for recruiting departments?

Marcus

From: Friam <[hidden email]> on behalf of Tom Johnson <[hidden email]>
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Date: Friday, May 4, 2018 at 1:47 PM
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Subject: [FRIAM] Transforming the Postsecondary Professional Education Experience -- Campus Technology

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gepr

Re: Transforming the Postsecondary Professional Education Experience -- Campus Technology

Ha! I don't know, man. "Software development" is increasingly looking like an industry dominated by cogs and sprockets ... from the yahoo complaining about my bracket placement to the bros pitching protocol inheritance, I've "had it up to here" with people telling me how I *should* be doing whatever it is I'm doing. 8^)

When the sprockets take over, it's time to move on.

On 05/04/2018 01:02 PM, Marcus Daniels wrote:

> “As a measure of the magnitude of impact of MOOCs so far, one of our MOOC specializations in the Python programming language is among the most popular offerings on Coursera — I believe that it has reached more than a million learners at this point. A significant fraction of those learners have opted to sit for an exam to get a certificate in Python programming.”
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> <Huff> A person that seeks a Coursera class to learn Python is not destined for a career in software development.
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> “Also, we introduced an Applied Data Science specialization about a year ago. That one, though not receiving enrollments at quite the same level as the Python specialization, is generating tens of thousands of learners per quarter.”
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> Thousands of learners or thousands of people who create a filtering problem for recruiting departments?

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Frank Wimberly-2

Re: Transforming the Postsecondary Professional Education Experience -- Campus Technology

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I assume a good Python book costs less than the course. In 1996 I got a job re-implementing a large statistical causal reasoning library from Pascal to Java. I bought a book called “Teach yourself Java in 21 days”. Within less than that time I had several large programs converted. I barely looked at the Pascal but at pseudocode descriptions of the algorithms instead.

Frank

From: Friam [mailto:[hidden email]] On Behalf Of Marcus Daniels
Sent: Friday, May 04, 2018 2:02 PM
To: The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group
Subject: Re: [FRIAM] Transforming the Postsecondary Professional Education Experience -- Campus Technology

<Huff> A person that seeks a Coursera class to learn Python is not destined for a career in software development.

Thousands of learners or thousands of people who create a filtering problem for recruiting departments?

Marcus

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Marcus G. Daniels

Re: Transforming the Postsecondary Professional Education Experience -- Campus Technology

In reply to this post by gepr

One might argue that Python is hugely popular across domains, and that plumbers and mechanics as well writers and choreographers want to enjoy some of its goodness. I think it is just people that want to get tech. jobs, and that they apparently have no natural inclination for learning the simplest possible language.

On 5/4/18, 4:14 PM, "Friam on behalf of uǝlƃ ☣" <[hidden email] on behalf of [hidden email]> wrote:

Ha! I don't know, man. "Software development" is increasingly looking like an industry dominated by cogs and sprockets ... from the yahoo complaining about my bracket placement to the bros pitching protocol inheritance, I've "had it up to here" with people telling me how I *should* be doing whatever it is I'm doing. 8^)

When the sprockets take over, it's time to move on.

On 05/04/2018 01:02 PM, Marcus Daniels wrote:
> “As a measure of the magnitude of impact of MOOCs so far, one of our MOOC specializations in the Python programming language is among the most popular offerings on Coursera — I believe that it has reached more than a million learners at this point. A significant fraction of those learners have opted to sit for an exam to get a certificate in Python programming.”
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> <Huff> A person that seeks a Coursera class to learn Python is not destined for a career in software development.
>
>
>
> “Also, we introduced an Applied Data Science specialization about a year ago. That one, though not receiving enrollments at quite the same level as the Python specialization, is generating tens of thousands of learners per quarter.”
>
>
>
> Thousands of learners or thousands of people who create a filtering problem for recruiting departments?

--
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Grant Holland

Re: Transforming the Postsecondary Professional Education Experience -- Campus Technology

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That was one of the first Java books I read, too, Frank. It was before Sun published any Java programming books, and before I went to work for Sun.

BTW, I believe your b'day is today, Frank. If so, have a great one!

Grant

On 5/5/18 12:52 AM, Frank Wimberly wrote:

I assume a good Python book costs less than the course. In 1996 I got a job re-implementing a large statistical causal reasoning library from Pascal to Java. I bought a book called “Teach yourself Java in 21 days”. Within less than that time I had several large programs converted. I barely looked at the Pascal but at pseudocode descriptions of the algorithms instead.

Frank

From: Friam [[hidden email]] On Behalf Of Marcus Daniels
Sent: Friday, May 04, 2018 2:02 PM
To: The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group
Subject: Re: [FRIAM] Transforming the Postsecondary Professional Education Experience -- Campus Technology

“As a measure of the magnitude of impact of MOOCs so far, one of our MOOC specializations in the Python programming language is among the most popular offerings on Coursera — I believe that it has reached more than a million learners at this point. A significant fraction of those learners have opted to sit for an exam to get a certificate in Python programming.”

<Huff> A person that seeks a Coursera class to learn Python is not destined for a career in software development.

“Also, we introduced an Applied Data Science specialization about a year ago. That one, though not receiving enrollments at quite the same level as the Python specialization, is generating tens of thousands of learners per quarter.”

Thousands of learners or thousands of people who create a filtering problem for recruiting departments?

Marcus

From: Friam [hidden email] on behalf of Tom Johnson [hidden email]
Reply-To: The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group [hidden email]
Date: Friday, May 4, 2018 at 1:47 PM
To: [hidden email] [hidden email]
Subject: [FRIAM] Transforming the Postsecondary Professional Education Experience -- Campus Technology

Perhaps of interest....

Transforming the Postsecondary Professional Education Experience
A Q&A with Thomas A. Finholt
https://campustechnology.com/Articles/2018/04/16/Transforming-the-Postsecondary-Professional-Education-Experience.aspx?s=ct_in_040518&mkt_tok=eyJpIjoiTVRFeE1EVTVPRFJtTWpSaSIsInQiOiJCOGhlK2U2d3l5R3BodGpScFQrUk5MNlNGWnh5Y3EreWtYVnhtWm1MY01DcXkwTWN2OTBxa25oVFdMa3Y0RDd2NklUNGtFMTFWU2ZnM3g0SCtQUE05VWlaaWM1MXRzSld0UWg5WmZVM1prV2hKSWZ3N3RvTTBoTWlVMFJQYlJiZiJ9&Page=1
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Barry MacKichan

Re: Transforming the Postsecondary Professional Education Experience -- Campus Technology

Frank, May the 4th be with you.

--Barry

On 5 May 2018, at 14:42, Grant Holland wrote:

That was one of the first Java books I read, too, Frank. It was before Sun published any Java programming books, and before I went to work for Sun.

BTW, I believe your b'day is today, Frank. If so, have a great one!

Grant

On 5/5/18 12:52 AM, Frank Wimberly wrote:
I assume a good Python book costs less than the course. In 1996 I got a job re-implementing a large statistical causal reasoning library from Pascal to Java. I bought a book called “Teach yourself Java in 21 days”. Within less than that time I had several large programs converted. I barely looked at the Pascal but at pseudocode descriptions of the algorithms instead.

Frank

From: Friam [[hidden email]] On Behalf Of Marcus Daniels
Sent: Friday, May 04, 2018 2:02 PM
To: The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group
Subject: Re: [FRIAM] Transforming the Postsecondary Professional Education Experience -- Campus Technology

“As a measure of the magnitude of impact of MOOCs so far, one of our MOOC specializations in the Python programming language is among the most popular offerings on Coursera — I believe that it has reached more than a million learners at this point. A significant fraction of those learners have opted to sit for an exam to get a certificate in Python programming.”

<Huff> A person that seeks a Coursera class to learn Python is not destined for a career in software development.

“Also, we introduced an Applied Data Science specialization about a year ago. That one, though not receiving enrollments at quite the same level as the Python specialization, is generating tens of thousands of learners per quarter.”

Thousands of learners or thousands of people who create a filtering problem for recruiting departments?

Marcus

From: Friam [hidden email] on behalf of Tom Johnson [hidden email]
Reply-To: The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group [hidden email]
Date: Friday, May 4, 2018 at 1:47 PM
To: [hidden email] [hidden email]
Subject: [FRIAM] Transforming the Postsecondary Professional Education Experience -- Campus Technology

Perhaps of interest....

Transforming the Postsecondary Professional Education Experience
A Q&A with Thomas A. Finholt
https://campustechnology.com/Articles/2018/04/16/Transforming-the-Postsecondary-Professional-Education-Experience.aspx?s=ct_in_040518&mkt_tok=eyJpIjoiTVRFeE1EVTVPRFJtTWpSaSIsInQiOiJCOGhlK2U2d3l5R3BodGpScFQrUk5MNlNGWnh5Y3EreWtYVnhtWm1MY01DcXkwTWN2OTBxa25oVFdMa3Y0RDd2NklUNGtFMTFWU2ZnM3g0SCtQUE05VWlaaWM1MXRzSld0UWg5WmZVM1prV2hKSWZ3N3RvTTBoTWlVMFJQYlJiZiJ9&Page=1
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Roger Critchlow-2

Re: Transforming the Postsecondary Professional Education Experience -- Campus Technology

I think if I listened to anyone my age when deciding how to become a software whatever I am, that I would not be anywhere near here. My expertise in the current world should be taken with a very large grain of salt.

-- rec --

On Sat, May 5, 2018 at 7:29 PM, Barry MacKichan <[hidden email]> wrote:

Frank, May the 4th be with you.

--Barry

On 5 May 2018, at 14:42, Grant Holland wrote:
That was one of the first Java books I read, too, Frank. It was before Sun published any Java programming books, and before I went to work for Sun.

BTW, I believe your b'day is today, Frank. If so, have a great one!

Grant

On 5/5/18 12:52 AM, Frank Wimberly wrote:
I assume a good Python book costs less than the course. In 1996 I got a job re-implementing a large statistical causal reasoning library from Pascal to Java. I bought a book called “Teach yourself Java in 21 days”. Within less than that time I had several large programs converted. I barely looked at the Pascal but at pseudocode descriptions of the algorithms instead.

Frank

From: Friam [[hidden email]] On Behalf Of Marcus Daniels
Sent: Friday, May 04, 2018 2:02 PM
To: The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group
Subject: Re: [FRIAM] Transforming the Postsecondary Professional Education Experience -- Campus Technology

“As a measure of the magnitude of impact of MOOCs so far, one of our MOOC specializations in the Python programming language is among the most popular offerings on Coursera — I believe that it has reached more than a million learners at this point. A significant fraction of those learners have opted to sit for an exam to get a certificate in Python programming.”

<Huff> A person that seeks a Coursera class to learn Python is not destined for a career in software development.

“Also, we introduced an Applied Data Science specialization about a year ago. That one, though not receiving enrollments at quite the same level as the Python specialization, is generating tens of thousands of learners per quarter.”

Thousands of learners or thousands of people who create a filtering problem for recruiting departments?

Marcus

From: Friam [hidden email] on behalf of Tom Johnson [hidden email]
Reply-To: The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group [hidden email]
Date: Friday, May 4, 2018 at 1:47 PM
To: [hidden email] [hidden email]
Subject: [FRIAM] Transforming the Postsecondary Professional Education Experience -- Campus Technology

Perhaps of interest....

Transforming the Postsecondary Professional Education Experience
A Q&A with Thomas A. Finholt
https://campustechnology.com/Articles/2018/04/16/Transforming-the-Postsecondary-Professional-Education-Experience.aspx?s=ct_in_040518&mkt_tok=eyJpIjoiTVRFeE1EVTVPRFJtTWpSaSIsInQiOiJCOGhlK2U2d3l5R3BodGpScFQrUk5MNlNGWnh5Y3EreWtYVnhtWm1MY01DcXkwTWN2OTBxa25oVFdMa3Y0RDd2NklUNGtFMTFWU2ZnM3g0SCtQUE05VWlaaWM1MXRzSld0UWg5WmZVM1prV2hKSWZ3N3RvTTBoTWlVMFJQYlJiZiJ9&Page=1
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