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Our end of the table was talking about this very subject this morning.
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Oh my goodness - that paragraph on Popperism. Was the interviewee actually
admitting that string theory isn't experimentally falsifiable? In which case I'm just confirmed in my belief that string theory is about as scientific as intellgient design, just with harder mathematics. Robert On 12/16/05, Douglas Roberts <doug at parrot-farm.net> wrote: > > Our end of the table was talking about this very subject this morning. > > http://www.newscientist.com/channel/fundamentals/mg18825305.800.html > > -- > Doug Roberts > 505-455-7333 - Office > 505-670-8195 - Cell > > ============================================================ > FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv > Meets Fridays 9a-11:30 at Mission Cafe > lectures, archives, unsubscribe, maps at http://www.friam.org > > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://redfish.com/pipermail/friam_redfish.com/attachments/20051217/4c0d74aa/attachment.htm |
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On 12/17/05, Robert Holmes <rholmes62 at gmail.com> wrote:
> I'm just confirmed in my belief that string theory is about as scientific as > intellgient design, just with harder mathematics. I have to say I agree with this position wholeheartedly. I don't even believe in the Big Bang. I think the whole thing is ridiculous. (I wrote a huge rant about this and then left it in "Drafts" as a public service.) -- Giles Bowkett = Giles Goat Boy http://www.gilesgoatboy.org/ |
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Giles,
Are you a physicist? I'm not one, myself, but my father in law is a theoritical astrophysicist, and one of my long-time "hobbies" has been the study of cosmology. I am curious why you think the big bang theory is ridiculous. *All* of the observable evidence (cosmic background radiation, redshift, COBE's ovservations of the anisotropy of the ovservable universe) supports a big bang origin. --Doug On 12/18/05, Giles Bowkett <gilesb at gmail.com> wrote: > > On 12/17/05, Robert Holmes <rholmes62 at gmail.com> wrote: > > I'm just confirmed in my belief that string theory is about as > scientific as > > intellgient design, just with harder mathematics. > > I have to say I agree with this position wholeheartedly. I don't even > believe in the Big Bang. I think the whole thing is ridiculous. (I > wrote a huge rant about this and then left it in "Drafts" as a public > service.) > > -- > Giles Bowkett = Giles Goat Boy > http://www.gilesgoatboy.org/ > > ============================================================ > FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv > Meets Fridays 9a-11:30 at Mission Cafe > lectures, archives, unsubscribe, maps at http://www.friam.org > -- Doug Roberts 505-455-7333 - Office 505-670-8195 - Cell -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://redfish.com/pipermail/friam_redfish.com/attachments/20051218/373f3c49/attachment-0001.htm |
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I'm not a physicist. I shouldn't call it ridiculous, but I do
definitely consider it a work in progress. I'll see what I can dig up, but I can't guarantee it'll convince anybody. On 12/18/05, Douglas Roberts <doug at parrot-farm.net> wrote: > Giles, > > Are you a physicist? I'm not one, myself, but my father in law is a > theoritical astrophysicist, and one of my long-time "hobbies" has been the > study of cosmology. I am curious why you think the big bang theory is > ridiculous. *All* of the observable evidence (cosmic background radiation, > redshift, COBE's ovservations of the anisotropy of the ovservable universe) > supports a big bang origin. > > --Doug > > > On 12/18/05, Giles Bowkett <gilesb at gmail.com> wrote: > > > > On 12/17/05, Robert Holmes <rholmes62 at gmail.com> wrote: > > > I'm just confirmed in my belief that string theory is about as > scientific as > > > intellgient design, just with harder mathematics. > > > > I have to say I agree with this position wholeheartedly. I don't even > > believe in the Big Bang. I think the whole thing is ridiculous. (I > > wrote a huge rant about this and then left it in "Drafts" as a public > > service.) > > > > -- > > Giles Bowkett = Giles Goat Boy > > http://www.gilesgoatboy.org/ > > > > > ============================================================ > > FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv > > Meets Fridays 9a-11:30 at Mission Cafe > > lectures, archives, unsubscribe, maps at http://www.friam.org > > > > > > -- > Doug Roberts > 505-455-7333 - Office > 505-670-8195 - Cell > > ============================================================ > FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv > Meets Fridays 9a-11:30 at Mission Cafe > lectures, archives, unsubscribe, maps at http://www.friam.org > > -- Giles Bowkett = Giles Goat Boy http://www.gilesgoatboy.org/ |
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I'm on a list for this open-source Java app for generating Dungeons
and Dragons character sheets, where the coder hierarchy uses primate species names as indicators of rank. It's quite possible for terms like Owlbear, Ranger, Lightning Bolt, Code Gibbon, JUnit, and Eclipse to appear all at once in the same thread. A brief conversation on that list about somebody getting their ducks in a row produced results that were positively nonlinear. On 12/18/05, Robert Holmes <rholmes62 at gmail.com> wrote: > OK, this is kind of off-topic but I have to share this. I've been using > Gmail regularly for several months now, and I'm beginning to see that you > can evaluate the weirdness of a conversation by the sort of sponsored links > that appear in the Gmail window. So here are the gems that the current > conversation is bringing up. How long before something even remotely > academically respectable appears I wonder? > > Robert > > P.S. Personally, I love that notion in the second link that there's a book > "our scientists hope you never read". A good subject for oneof our WedTech > discussions maybe?) > > > > > Relativity ChallengeDid Einstein make a math mistake? You be the judge! > www.relativitychallenge.com > > > The Final TheoryThe bestselling book our scientists hope you never read. > Find out why! > TheFinalTheory.com > > > Theory of Everything; TOEJoin the quest for the discovery and understanding > of this theory. > www.toequest.com > What Do Physicists Actually Do? > About - News & Issues - 19 hours ago > For every subfield of physics, there are physicists who focus on the ... > > > ============================================================ > FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv > Meets Fridays 9a-11:30 at Mission Cafe > lectures, archives, unsubscribe, maps at http://www.friam.org > > -- Giles Bowkett = Giles Goat Boy http://www.gilesgoatboy.org/ |
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