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thompnickson2

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Colleagues,

I am hoping to entrap one or more of you into listening to https://www.jimruttshow.com/currents-curtis-yarvin/ and helping me to resolve my ambivalence about it. Yarvin seems to be some sort of a libertarian, an attribution I make from his smug dismissiveness and his inability to speak without making reference to bowel and sexual function in every sentence. Also, his joy in goading us BHL’s by such assertions as, “FDR was a much worse liar than Donald Trump.” On the other hand, his diagnosis of the deep state and conflicts of interest that bind “experts’ are deeply troubling to me. He seems to make an argument for authoritarian government structures, praising the organization of the Manhattan project with that of NSF. Thus his take on FDR is that he was not a successful democratic leader but a skillful autocrat. He argues plausibly that the covid pandemic was the result of a US funded program Chinese research program on SARS-related bat viruses when the infected ferrets there were working on were sold to the wet-market by the person who was supposed to euthanize them. The idea here is that the SARS program was continued, not because it was still needed, but because of the institutional and financial momentum provided by the US government for the Chinese Research. I would be much more convinced by what he is saying if he didn’t take so much pleasure in saying it.

Nick

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Stephen Guerin-5

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I listened to that episode yesterday and spent some time reading the Nicholson Baker article referenced:

The Lab-Leak Hypothesis For decades, scientists have been hot-wiring viruses in hopes of preventing a pandemic, not causing one. But what if …?
https://nymag.com/intelligencer/article/coronavirus-lab-escape-theory.html

-S

On Sun, Jan 17, 2021 at 8:26 PM <[hidden email]> wrote:

Colleagues,

I am hoping to entrap one or more of you into listening to https://www.jimruttshow.com/currents-curtis-yarvin/ and helping me to resolve my ambivalence about it. Yarvin seems to be some sort of a libertarian, an attribution I make from his smug dismissiveness and his inability to speak without making reference to bowel and sexual function in every sentence. Also, his joy in goading us BHL’s by such assertions as, “FDR was a much worse liar than Donald Trump.” On the other hand, his diagnosis of the deep state and conflicts of interest that bind “experts’ are deeply troubling to me. He seems to make an argument for authoritarian government structures, praising the organization of the Manhattan project with that of NSF. Thus his take on FDR is that he was not a successful democratic leader but a skillful autocrat. He argues plausibly that the covid pandemic was the result of a US funded program Chinese research program on SARS-related bat viruses when the infected ferrets there were working on were sold to the wet-market by the person who was supposed to euthanize them. The idea here is that the SARS program was continued, not because it was still needed, but because of the institutional and financial momentum provided by the US government for the Chinese Research. I would be much more convinced by what he is saying if he didn’t take so much pleasure in saying it.

Nick

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thompnickson2

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Thanks, Steve, N

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I listened to that episode yesterday and spent some time reading the Nicholson Baker article referenced:

-S

On Sun, Jan 17, 2021 at 8:26 PM <[hidden email]> wrote:

Colleagues,

I am hoping to entrap one or more of you into listening to https://www.jimruttshow.com/currents-curtis-yarvin/ and helping me to resolve my ambivalence about it. Yarvin seems to be some sort of a libertarian, an attribution I make from his smug dismissiveness and his inability to speak without making reference to bowel and sexual function in every sentence. Also, his joy in goading us BHL’s by such assertions as, “FDR was a much worse liar than Donald Trump.” On the other hand, his diagnosis of the deep state and conflicts of interest that bind “experts’ are deeply troubling to me. He seems to make an argument for authoritarian government structures, praising the organization of the Manhattan project with that of NSF. Thus his take on FDR is that he was not a successful democratic leader but a skillful autocrat. He argues plausibly that the covid pandemic was the result of a US funded program Chinese research program on SARS-related bat viruses when the infected ferrets there were working on were sold to the wet-market by the person who was supposed to euthanize them. The idea here is that the SARS program was continued, not because it was still needed, but because of the institutional and financial momentum provided by the US government for the Chinese Research. I would be much more convinced by what he is saying if he didn’t take so much pleasure in saying it.

Nick

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Marcus G. Daniels

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I wonder how deadly a virus would have to be such that MAGAs would wear a mask? 1/10 death rate? A few more mutations..?

On Jan 17, 2021, at 9:20 PM, Stephen Guerin <[hidden email]> wrote:

I listened to that episode yesterday and spent some time reading the Nicholson Baker article referenced:

The Lab-Leak Hypothesis For decades, scientists have been hot-wiring viruses in hopes of preventing a pandemic, not causing one. But what if …?
https://nymag.com/intelligencer/article/coronavirus-lab-escape-theory.html

-S

On Sun, Jan 17, 2021 at 8:26 PM <[hidden email]> wrote:

Colleagues,

I am hoping to entrap one or more of you into listening to https://www.jimruttshow.com/currents-curtis-yarvin/ and helping me to resolve my ambivalence about it. Yarvin seems to be some sort of a libertarian, an attribution I make from his smug dismissiveness and his inability to speak without making reference to bowel and sexual function in every sentence. Also, his joy in goading us BHL’s by such assertions as, “FDR was a much worse liar than Donald Trump.” On the other hand, his diagnosis of the deep state and conflicts of interest that bind “experts’ are deeply troubling to me. He seems to make an argument for authoritarian government structures, praising the organization of the Manhattan project with that of NSF. Thus his take on FDR is that he was not a successful democratic leader but a skillful autocrat. He argues plausibly that the covid pandemic was the result of a US funded program Chinese research program on SARS-related bat viruses when the infected ferrets there were working on were sold to the wet-market by the person who was supposed to euthanize them. The idea here is that the SARS program was continued, not because it was still needed, but because of the institutional and financial momentum provided by the US government for the Chinese Research. I would be much more convinced by what he is saying if he didn’t take so much pleasure in saying it.

Nick

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gepr

Re: The+Jim+Rutt+Show

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[sigh] I'll never get that time back. I regret that you've now convinced me to listen to 2 Jim Rutt episodes. I've completely forgotten what the first one was about. And it's likely I'll forget this one, too. Rutt seems like a gentler Joe Rogan, who facilitates the insane ranting of his guests with so little curation as to make it useless *unless* you're *excited* by the people talking. ("Excited" in a good or bad way.) But I suppose I should give Rutt more of my ear time before I come to any conclusions. So I've added it to my feed.

Yarvin [ε] is one of the founders of the alt-right, a right wing "intellectual" troll whose sheer (admitted) intellect encourages him (and his hapless victims) toward the same ambiguous over-statement and over-confidence Trump has used so well. His con-man facade is obvious if you follow his speech/text patterns. To find the details he glosses, all you need to do is focus on where he laughs at his own jokes and veers hyperbolic in his claims. His uses of "fvck" and "sh¡t" are good places to start.

Good examples of his trolling can be found at Scott Aaronson's site: https://www.scottaaronson.com/blog/?p=3167#comment-1732226

Credibility is about being careful in one's language and actions. Don't be fooled by those who throw tons of spaghetti at the wall. Of course if you throw more spaghetti, then more of your spaghetti will stick. Yarvin is, truly, incredible. Of course, just because you can't trust a con-man does *not* mean con-men aren't useful or that they shouldn't exist. It takes a village. And every village needs its Jesters and gimpy shamen.

[ε] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dark_Enlightenment
https://qz.com/1007144/the-neo-fascist-philosophy-that-underpins-both-the-alt-right-and-silicon-valley-technophiles/

On 1/17/21 7:26 PM, [hidden email] wrote:
> I am hoping to entrap one or more of you into listening to https://www.jimruttshow.com/currents-curtis-yarvin/ <https://www.jimruttshow.com/currents-curtis-yarvin/> and helping me to resolve my ambivalence about it. Yarvin seems to be some sort of a libertarian, an attribution I make from his smug dismissiveness and his inability to speak without making reference to bowel and sexual function in every sentence. Also, his joy in goading us BHL’s by such assertions as, “FDR was a much worse liar than Donald Trump.” On the other hand, his diagnosis of the deep state and conflicts of interest that bind “experts’ are deeply troubling to me. He seems to make an argument for authoritarian government structures, praising the organization of the Manhattan project with that of NSF. Thus his take on FDR is that he was not a successful democratic leader but a skillful autocrat. He argues plausibly that the covid pandemic was the result of a US funded program Chinese research
> program on SARS-related bat viruses when the infected ferrets there were working on were sold to the wet-market by the person who was supposed to euthanize them. The idea here is that the SARS program was continued, not because it was still needed, but because of the institutional and financial momentum provided by the US government for the Chinese Research. I would be much more convinced by what he is saying if he didn’t take so much pleasure in saying it.

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Stephen Guerin-5

Re: The+Jim+Rutt+Show

Yeah, the second Jim Rutt Show we asked people to listen to was the extremist Eric Smith who claims life is an ecological property of the system and less a property of an individual :-)

On Mon, Jan 18, 2021, 8:59 AM uǝlƃ ↙↙↙ <[hidden email]> wrote:

[sigh] I'll never get that time back. I regret that you've now convinced me to listen to 2 Jim Rutt episodes. I've completely forgotten what the first one was about. And it's likely I'll forget this one, too. Rutt seems like a gentler Joe Rogan, who facilitates the insane ranting of his guests with so little curation as to make it useless *unless* you're *excited* by the people talking. ("Excited" in a good or bad way.) But I suppose I should give Rutt more of my ear time before I come to any conclusions. So I've added it to my feed.

Yarvin [ε] is one of the founders of the alt-right, a right wing "intellectual" troll whose sheer (admitted) intellect encourages him (and his hapless victims) toward the same ambiguous over-statement and over-confidence Trump has used so well. His con-man facade is obvious if you follow his speech/text patterns. To find the details he glosses, all you need to do is focus on where he laughs at his own jokes and veers hyperbolic in his claims. His uses of "fvck" and "sh¡t" are good places to start.

Good examples of his trolling can be found at Scott Aaronson's site: https://www.scottaaronson.com/blog/?p=3167#comment-1732226

Credibility is about being careful in one's language and actions. Don't be fooled by those who throw tons of spaghetti at the wall. Of course if you throw more spaghetti, then more of your spaghetti will stick. Yarvin is, truly, incredible. Of course, just because you can't trust a con-man does *not* mean con-men aren't useful or that they shouldn't exist. It takes a village. And every village needs its Jesters and gimpy shamen.

[ε] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dark_Enlightenment
https://qz.com/1007144/the-neo-fascist-philosophy-that-underpins-both-the-alt-right-and-silicon-valley-technophiles/

On 1/17/21 7:26 PM, [hidden email] wrote:
> I am hoping to entrap one or more of you into listening to https://www.jimruttshow.com/currents-curtis-yarvin/ <https://www.jimruttshow.com/currents-curtis-yarvin/> and helping me to resolve my ambivalence about it. Yarvin seems to be some sort of a libertarian, an attribution I make from his smug dismissiveness and his inability to speak without making reference to bowel and sexual function in every sentence. Also, his joy in goading us BHL’s by such assertions as, “FDR was a much worse liar than Donald Trump.” On the other hand, his diagnosis of the deep state and conflicts of interest that bind “experts’ are deeply troubling to me. He seems to make an argument for authoritarian government structures, praising the organization of the Manhattan project with that of NSF. Thus his take on FDR is that he was not a successful democratic leader but a skillful autocrat. He argues plausibly that the covid pandemic was the result of a US funded program Chinese research
> program on SARS-related bat viruses when the infected ferrets there were working on were sold to the wet-market by the person who was supposed to euthanize them. The idea here is that the SARS program was continued, not because it was still needed, but because of the institutional and financial momentum provided by the US government for the Chinese Research. I would be much more convinced by what he is saying if he didn’t take so much pleasure in saying it.

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Stephen Guerin-5

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Eric, please forgive me if I over-simplified p15:

"Universal metabolism is an ecosystem property

If the simplicity and universality of core metabolism and bioenergetics are expressed in ecosystems whereas they are not generally expressed at the level of organisms, metabolism is in some respects more a property of ecosystems as units of organization than a property of organisms."

On Mon, Jan 18, 2021, 9:40 AM Stephen Guerin <[hidden email]> wrote:

Yeah, the second Jim Rutt Show we asked people to listen to was the extremist Eric Smith who claims life is an ecological property of the system and less a property of an individual :-)

On Mon, Jan 18, 2021, 8:59 AM uǝlƃ ↙↙↙ <[hidden email]> wrote:
[sigh] I'll never get that time back. I regret that you've now convinced me to listen to 2 Jim Rutt episodes. I've completely forgotten what the first one was about. And it's likely I'll forget this one, too. Rutt seems like a gentler Joe Rogan, who facilitates the insane ranting of his guests with so little curation as to make it useless *unless* you're *excited* by the people talking. ("Excited" in a good or bad way.) But I suppose I should give Rutt more of my ear time before I come to any conclusions. So I've added it to my feed.

Yarvin [ε] is one of the founders of the alt-right, a right wing "intellectual" troll whose sheer (admitted) intellect encourages him (and his hapless victims) toward the same ambiguous over-statement and over-confidence Trump has used so well. His con-man facade is obvious if you follow his speech/text patterns. To find the details he glosses, all you need to do is focus on where he laughs at his own jokes and veers hyperbolic in his claims. His uses of "fvck" and "sh¡t" are good places to start.

Good examples of his trolling can be found at Scott Aaronson's site: https://www.scottaaronson.com/blog/?p=3167#comment-1732226

Credibility is about being careful in one's language and actions. Don't be fooled by those who throw tons of spaghetti at the wall. Of course if you throw more spaghetti, then more of your spaghetti will stick. Yarvin is, truly, incredible. Of course, just because you can't trust a con-man does *not* mean con-men aren't useful or that they shouldn't exist. It takes a village. And every village needs its Jesters and gimpy shamen.

[ε] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dark_Enlightenment
https://qz.com/1007144/the-neo-fascist-philosophy-that-underpins-both-the-alt-right-and-silicon-valley-technophiles/

On 1/17/21 7:26 PM, [hidden email] wrote:
> I am hoping to entrap one or more of you into listening to https://www.jimruttshow.com/currents-curtis-yarvin/ <https://www.jimruttshow.com/currents-curtis-yarvin/> and helping me to resolve my ambivalence about it. Yarvin seems to be some sort of a libertarian, an attribution I make from his smug dismissiveness and his inability to speak without making reference to bowel and sexual function in every sentence. Also, his joy in goading us BHL’s by such assertions as, “FDR was a much worse liar than Donald Trump.” On the other hand, his diagnosis of the deep state and conflicts of interest that bind “experts’ are deeply troubling to me. He seems to make an argument for authoritarian government structures, praising the organization of the Manhattan project with that of NSF. Thus his take on FDR is that he was not a successful democratic leader but a skillful autocrat. He argues plausibly that the covid pandemic was the result of a US funded program Chinese research
> program on SARS-related bat viruses when the infected ferrets there were working on were sold to the wet-market by the person who was supposed to euthanize them. The idea here is that the SARS program was continued, not because it was still needed, but because of the institutional and financial momentum provided by the US government for the Chinese Research. I would be much more convinced by what he is saying if he didn’t take so much pleasure in saying it.

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gepr

Re: The+Jim+Rutt+Show

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Nope, I haven't seen that one. It was this one:

http://friam.471366.n2.nabble.com/Interesting-take-on-political-correctness-and-triggering-tp7596408p7596421.html

On 1/18/21 8:40 AM, Stephen Guerin wrote:
> Yeah, the second Jim Rutt Show we asked people to listen to was the extremist Eric Smith who claims life is an ecological property of the system and less a property of an individual :-)

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thompnickson2

Re: The+Jim+Rutt+Show

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Glen,

Thanks for the dope-slap. Sorry. My bad. Mind you, I am still troubled by Libertarians, because, having lived so long in academia, I have seen the baroque incrustations that develop in academic bureaucracies. Bureaucracies are like beautiful and elaborate coral reefs that, hidden under the surface of placid water, can be such a peril to navigation. On the other hand, I don't doubt the enormous benefits of the non-zero-sum gains that can be captured by cooperation on a large scale.

Nick

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[sigh] I'll never get that time back. I regret that you've now convinced me to listen to 2 Jim Rutt episodes. I've completely forgotten what the first one was about. And it's likely I'll forget this one, too. Rutt seems like a gentler Joe Rogan, who facilitates the insane ranting of his guests with so little curation as to make it useless *unless* you're *excited* by the people talking. ("Excited" in a good or bad way.) But I suppose I should give Rutt more of my ear time before I come to any conclusions. So I've added it to my feed.

Yarvin [ε] is one of the founders of the alt-right, a right wing "intellectual" troll whose sheer (admitted) intellect encourages him (and his hapless victims) toward the same ambiguous over-statement and over-confidence Trump has used so well. His con-man facade is obvious if you follow his speech/text patterns. To find the details he glosses, all you need to do is focus on where he laughs at his own jokes and veers hyperbolic in his claims. His uses of "fvck" and "sh¡t" are good places to start.

Good examples of his trolling can be found at Scott Aaronson's site: https://www.scottaaronson.com/blog/?p=3167#comment-1732226

Credibility is about being careful in one's language and actions. Don't be fooled by those who throw tons of spaghetti at the wall. Of course if you throw more spaghetti, then more of your spaghetti will stick. Yarvin is, truly, incredible. Of course, just because you can't trust a con-man does *not* mean con-men aren't useful or that they shouldn't exist. It takes a village. And every village needs its Jesters and gimpy shamen.

[ε] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dark_Enlightenment
https://qz.com/1007144/the-neo-fascist-philosophy-that-underpins-both-the-alt-right-and-silicon-valley-technophiles/

On 1/17/21 7:26 PM, [hidden email] wrote:
> I am hoping to entrap one or more of you into listening to
> https://www.jimruttshow.com/currents-curtis-yarvin/ <https://www.jimruttshow.com/currents-curtis-yarvin/> and helping me to resolve my ambivalence about it. Yarvin seems to be some sort of a libertarian, an attribution I make from his smug dismissiveness and his inability to speak without making reference to bowel and sexual function in every sentence. Also, his joy in goading us BHL’s by such assertions as, “FDR was a much worse liar than Donald Trump.” On the other hand, his diagnosis of the deep state and conflicts of interest that bind “experts’ are deeply troubling to me. He seems to make an argument for authoritarian government structures, praising the organization of the Manhattan project with that of NSF. Thus his take on FDR is that he was not a successful democratic leader but a skillful autocrat. He argues plausibly that the covid pandemic was the result of a US funded program Chinese research program on SARS-related bat viruses when the infected ferrets there were working on were sold to the wet-market by the person who was supposed to euthanize them. The idea here is that the SARS program was continued, not because it was still needed, but because of the institutional and financial momentum provided by the US government for the Chinese Research. I would be much more convinced by what he is saying if he didn’t take so much pleasure in saying it.

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gepr

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Well, as I've tried to say in other forms, bureaucracy is a good thing. Aaronson says it nicely here:

"But I’d say we’re fortunate that these observations didn’t dissuade the Wright brothers, or Bardeen and Brattain and Shockley, or the American revolutionaries! In each case, even if an engineering problem has the character of balancing a pencil on its tip, a solution might be so self-evidently desirable that it really does make sense just to work on it more and more and more until the pencil stands. Even then the pencil probably won’t stand forever, but after it falls we can do a careful postmortem, and try again to rebalance the pencil for an even longer time."

By over-simplifying engineering feats as "benefits of non-zero-sum gains", you're committing the "cognitive parsimony" that I brought up on Friday. Sure, it's natural to look at some person executing some task and say "what a sh¡tshow" or "such talent". But either one of those ignores the lifetime of *sweat* that person put into getting good at the task. It's simply lazy to complain about bureaucracy. If you think it's badly done, dig in and make it better ... or sit off by the side, in your armchair, complain and think magically about how you might want everything to be simple. Yarvin is a perfect example of the latter. And his "stupidity quotient" is a very tight, concentrated form of it. Idealism run amok.

That he ranks Yarvin with people like Eric Smith or Simon DeDeo seems to argue that Rutt, himself, is not very useful, at least not to me. But my time is not precious. So I'll shuffle him into the deck for awhile. Hopefully, my mind will change.

On 1/18/21 9:16 AM, [hidden email] wrote:
> Thanks for the dope-slap. Sorry. My bad. Mind you, I am still troubled by Libertarians, because, having lived so long in academia, I have seen the baroque incrustations that develop in academic bureaucracies. Bureaucracies are like beautiful and elaborate coral reefs that, hidden under the surface of placid water, can be such a peril to navigation. On the other hand, I don't doubt the enormous benefits of the non-zero-sum gains that can be captured by cooperation on a large scale.

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Re: The+Jim+Rutt+Show

In reply to this post by Stephen Guerin-5

Yeah, defnly no forgiveness needed on that one, Steve,

It’s the way I would say it.

Eric

On Jan 18, 2021, at 11:49 AM, Stephen Guerin <[hidden email]> wrote:

Eric, please forgive me if I over-simplified p15:

"Universal metabolism is an ecosystem property

If the simplicity and universality of core metabolism and bioenergetics are expressed in ecosystems whereas they are not generally expressed at the level of organisms, metabolism is in some respects more a property of ecosystems as units of organization than a property of organisms."

On Mon, Jan 18, 2021, 9:40 AM Stephen Guerin <[hidden email]> wrote:
Yeah, the second Jim Rutt Show we asked people to listen to was the extremist Eric Smith who claims life is an ecological property of the system and less a property of an individual :-)

On Mon, Jan 18, 2021, 8:59 AM uǝlƃ ↙↙↙ <[hidden email]> wrote:
[sigh] I'll never get that time back. I regret that you've now convinced me to listen to 2 Jim Rutt episodes. I've completely forgotten what the first one was about. And it's likely I'll forget this one, too. Rutt seems like a gentler Joe Rogan, who facilitates the insane ranting of his guests with so little curation as to make it useless *unless* you're *excited* by the people talking. ("Excited" in a good or bad way.) But I suppose I should give Rutt more of my ear time before I come to any conclusions. So I've added it to my feed.

Yarvin [ε] is one of the founders of the alt-right, a right wing "intellectual" troll whose sheer (admitted) intellect encourages him (and his hapless victims) toward the same ambiguous over-statement and over-confidence Trump has used so well. His con-man facade is obvious if you follow his speech/text patterns. To find the details he glosses, all you need to do is focus on where he laughs at his own jokes and veers hyperbolic in his claims. His uses of "fvck" and "sh¡t" are good places to start.

Good examples of his trolling can be found at Scott Aaronson's site: https://www.scottaaronson.com/blog/?p=3167#comment-1732226

Credibility is about being careful in one's language and actions. Don't be fooled by those who throw tons of spaghetti at the wall. Of course if you throw more spaghetti, then more of your spaghetti will stick. Yarvin is, truly, incredible. Of course, just because you can't trust a con-man does *not* mean con-men aren't useful or that they shouldn't exist. It takes a village. And every village needs its Jesters and gimpy shamen.

[ε] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dark_Enlightenment
https://qz.com/1007144/the-neo-fascist-philosophy-that-underpins-both-the-alt-right-and-silicon-valley-technophiles/

On 1/17/21 7:26 PM, [hidden email] wrote:
> I am hoping to entrap one or more of you into listening to https://www.jimruttshow.com/currents-curtis-yarvin/ <https://www.jimruttshow.com/currents-curtis-yarvin/> and helping me to resolve my ambivalence about it. Yarvin seems to be some sort of a libertarian, an attribution I make from his smug dismissiveness and his inability to speak without making reference to bowel and sexual function in every sentence. Also, his joy in goading us BHL’s by such assertions as, “FDR was a much worse liar than Donald Trump.” On the other hand, his diagnosis of the deep state and conflicts of interest that bind “experts’ are deeply troubling to me. He seems to make an argument for authoritarian government structures, praising the organization of the Manhattan project with that of NSF. Thus his take on FDR is that he was not a successful democratic leader but a skillful autocrat. He argues plausibly that the covid pandemic was the result of a US funded program Chinese research
> program on SARS-related bat viruses when the infected ferrets there were working on were sold to the wet-market by the person who was supposed to euthanize them. The idea here is that the SARS program was continued, not because it was still needed, but because of the institutional and financial momentum provided by the US government for the Chinese Research. I would be much more convinced by what he is saying if he didn’t take so much pleasure in saying it.

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