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I'm thinking of diving into Mathematica, and was wondering if any of us
Friam-ers use Mathematica and if so, how .. i.e. in what context? Also, if you are using a different symbolic mathematical system, I'd like to know about it as well .. what you're using and how, as above. In the open source world, gnuplot certainly is a wonderful tool, but as far as I know, there is no companion symbolic system. -- Owen Owen Densmore 908 Camino Santander Santa Fe, NM 87505 Cell: 505-570-0168 Home: 505-988-3787 http://backspaces.net |
Recently came across something called J - a successor to APL (I think). No
idea where to download a copy, but there's a guide to it coming out soon. See http://bookmarkphysics.iop.org/bookpge.htm?ID=13zpeLsCyYpSaMq-lqTO6lOw&book= 1408h - rh > -----Original Message----- > From: Owen Densmore [mailto:[hidden email]] > Sent: Wednesday, June 09, 2004 9:06 AM > To: The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Friam > Subject: [FRIAM] Survey: How do you use Mathematica? > > > I'm thinking of diving into Mathematica, and was wondering if > any of us > Friam-ers use Mathematica and if so, how .. i.e. in what context? > > Also, if you are using a different symbolic mathematical system, I'd > like to know about it as well .. what you're using and how, as above. > > In the open source world, gnuplot certainly is a wonderful > tool, but as > far as I know, there is no companion symbolic system. > > -- Owen > > Owen Densmore 908 Camino Santander Santa Fe, NM 87505 > Cell: 505-570-0168 Home: 505-988-3787 http://backspaces.net > > > ============================================================ > FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv > Meets Fridays 9AM @ Jane's Cafe > Lecture schedule, archives, unsubscribe, etc.: http://www.friam.org > > > |
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There used to be a package called GNUCalc, which was written in elisp,
and ran under the emacs editor. It was really quite powerful (although nowhere near as powerful as Mathematica) - approximately the same level of functionality as Reduce or even Macsyma, if your memory stretches that far back. Like Octave, it makes calls to GNUPlot to perform graphics. Unfortunately GNUCalc no longer runs in the latest versions of emacs - you need an older version (version 19 or 20 was the last one to work, I think). Also, it is no longer distributed on the www.gnu.org website - rather another package of the same name (but completely different) has taken its place. I still have the source code for version 2.02f if anyone's interested. Cheers On Wed, Jun 09, 2004 at 09:06:28AM -0600, Owen Densmore wrote: > I'm thinking of diving into Mathematica, and was wondering if any of us > Friam-ers use Mathematica and if so, how .. i.e. in what context? > > Also, if you are using a different symbolic mathematical system, I'd > like to know about it as well .. what you're using and how, as above. > > In the open source world, gnuplot certainly is a wonderful tool, but as > far as I know, there is no companion symbolic system. > > -- Owen > > Owen Densmore 908 Camino Santander Santa Fe, NM 87505 > Cell: 505-570-0168 Home: 505-988-3787 http://backspaces.net > > > ============================================================ > FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv > Meets Fridays 9AM @ Jane's Cafe > Lecture schedule, archives, unsubscribe, etc.: > http://www.friam.org -- *PS: A number of people ask me about the attachment to my email, which is of type "application/pgp-signature". Don't worry, it is not a virus. It is an electronic signature, that may be used to verify this email came from me if you have PGP or GPG installed. Otherwise, you may safely ignore this attachment. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- A/Prof Russell Standish Director High Performance Computing Support Unit, Phone 9385 6967, 8308 3119 (mobile) UNSW SYDNEY 2052 Fax 9385 6965, 0425 253119 (") Australia [hidden email] Room 2075, Red Centre http://parallel.hpc.unsw.edu.au/rks International prefix +612, Interstate prefix 02 ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: not available Url : /pipermail/friam_redfish.com/attachments/20040610/94178220/attachment.bin |
Calc still lives, it's part of the current distribution of xemacs. I
just installed the cygwin distribution of xemacs this weekend and it came with calc 2.02f as part of the base elisp packages. The other possibility, even gnarlier, is R the opensource version of S+. Though not a feature for the faint of heart, R does have expression objects and there are some example packages which compute symbolic derivatives and integrals. http://www.r-project.org and don't forget the ESS (Emacs Speaks Statistics) package so you can run R side by side with calc. -- rec -- Russell Standish wrote: >There used to be a package called GNUCalc, which was written in elisp, >and ran under the emacs editor. It was really quite powerful (although >nowhere near as powerful as Mathematica) - approximately the same >level of functionality as Reduce or even Macsyma, if your memory >stretches that far back. Like Octave, it makes calls to GNUPlot to >perform graphics. > >Unfortunately GNUCalc no longer runs in the latest versions of emacs >- you need an older version (version 19 or 20 was the last one to >work, I think). Also, it is no longer distributed on the www.gnu.org >website - rather another package of the same name (but completely >different) has taken its place. > >I still have the source code for version 2.02f if anyone's interested. > > Cheers > > |
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University's Heinz School of Public Policy and Management, will be retiring and moving to Santa Fe (not necessarily in that order) in the not-too-distant future. George and I have been friends for over 20 years. I have encouraged him to come to Friam when he's in town and to subscribe to the mailing list. George is a Bayesian who, among other things, chaired a National Academy of Sciences panel on confidentiality as it pertains to large public databases. Frank --- Frank C. Wimberly 140 Calle Ojo Feliz Santa Fe, NM 87505 |
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I suppose you can register for a free copy at http://www.jsoftware.com/
Robert Howard, CTO Symmetric Objects Inc. 1505 N. Central Ave. Suite 300 Phoenix, Arizona 85004 Work: (602) 254-5355 Fax: (602) 258-1169 Home: (602) 253-4898 Email: [hidden email] -----Original Message----- From: [hidden email] [mailto:[hidden email]]On Behalf Of Robert Holmes Sent: Wednesday, June 09, 2004 10:07 AM To: 'The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group' Subject: RE: [FRIAM] Survey: How do you use Mathematica? Recently came across something called J - a successor to APL (I think). No idea where to download a copy, but there's a guide to it coming out soon. See http://bookmarkphysics.iop.org/bookpge.htm?ID=13zpeLsCyYpSaMq-lqTO6lOw&book= 1408h - rh > -----Original Message----- > From: Owen Densmore [mailto:[hidden email]] > Sent: Wednesday, June 09, 2004 9:06 AM > To: The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Friam > Subject: [FRIAM] Survey: How do you use Mathematica? > > > I'm thinking of diving into Mathematica, and was wondering if > any of us > Friam-ers use Mathematica and if so, how .. i.e. in what context? > > Also, if you are using a different symbolic mathematical system, I'd > like to know about it as well .. what you're using and how, as above. > > In the open source world, gnuplot certainly is a wonderful > tool, but as > far as I know, there is no companion symbolic system. > > -- Owen > > Owen Densmore 908 Camino Santander Santa Fe, NM 87505 > Cell: 505-570-0168 Home: 505-988-3787 http://backspaces.net > > > ============================================================ > FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv > Meets Fridays 9AM @ Jane's Cafe > Lecture schedule, archives, unsubscribe, etc.: http://www.friam.org > > > ==================== FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv Meets Fridays 9AM @ Jane's Cafe Lecture schedule, archives, unsubscribe, etc.: http://www.friam.org |
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On Jun 11, 2004, at 3:44 PM, Rob @ Symmetric Objects wrote:
> I suppose you can register for a free copy at http://www.jsoftware.com/ > > Robert Howard, CTO > Symmetric Objects Inc. Did it, and am finding J absfab! Next week I'll start using it with the new book Robert discovered: > I was motivated to look into information theory, and, small world that > it is, came across the site that Robert pointed us at earlier for the > monte carlo techniques. > http://www.inference.phy.cam.ac.uk/mackay/info-theory/course.html > and the related book: > Information Theory, Inference and Learning Algorithms The goal is to be able to reproduce some of the nifty illustrations and so on that the author creates for the book. -- Owen Owen Densmore 908 Camino Santander Santa Fe, NM 87505 Cell: 505-570-0168 Home: 505-988-3787 http://backspaces.net > -----Original Message----- > From: [hidden email] [mailto:[hidden email]]On > Behalf Of Robert Holmes > Sent: Wednesday, June 09, 2004 10:07 AM > To: 'The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group' > Subject: RE: [FRIAM] Survey: How do you use Mathematica? > > > Recently came across something called J - a successor to APL (I > think). No > idea where to download a copy, but there's a guide to it coming out > soon. > See > http://bookmarkphysics.iop.org/bookpge.htm?ID=13zpeLsCyYpSaMq- > lqTO6lOw&book= > 1408h > > - rh > >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Owen Densmore [mailto:[hidden email]] >> Sent: Wednesday, June 09, 2004 9:06 AM >> To: The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Friam >> Subject: [FRIAM] Survey: How do you use Mathematica? >> >> >> I'm thinking of diving into Mathematica, and was wondering if >> any of us >> Friam-ers use Mathematica and if so, how .. i.e. in what context? >> >> Also, if you are using a different symbolic mathematical system, I'd >> like to know about it as well .. what you're using and how, as above. >> >> In the open source world, gnuplot certainly is a wonderful >> tool, but as >> far as I know, there is no companion symbolic system. >> >> -- Owen >> >> Owen Densmore 908 Camino Santander Santa Fe, NM 87505 >> Cell: 505-570-0168 Home: 505-988-3787 http://backspaces.net >> >> >> ============================================================ >> FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv >> Meets Fridays 9AM @ Jane's Cafe >> Lecture schedule, archives, unsubscribe, etc.: http://www.friam.org >> >> >> > > > > ==================== > FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv > Meets Fridays 9AM @ Jane's Cafe > Lecture schedule, archives, unsubscribe, etc.: > http://www.friam.org > > > ============================================================ > FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv > Meets Fridays 9AM @ Jane's Cafe > Lecture schedule, archives, unsubscribe, etc.: > http://www.friam.org |
Me too. APL was really cool in the 70's. J is equally fun. Where else have
you seen a language where all the operators are equal-precedence, and right-associative? By the way Owen, I've used Mathematica a lot at ASU instead of Maple. My observations were that people who liked the Macintosh over Windows preferred Maple over Mathematica, and visa versa. Robert Howard, CTO Symmetric Objects Inc. 1505 N. Central Ave. Suite 300 Phoenix, Arizona 85004 Work: (602) 254-5355 Fax: (602) 258-1169 Home: (602) 253-4898 Email: [hidden email] -----Original Message----- From: [hidden email] [mailto:[hidden email]]On Behalf Of Owen Densmore Sent: Friday, June 11, 2004 5:54 PM To: The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group Subject: Re: [FRIAM] Survey: How do you use Mathematica? On Jun 11, 2004, at 3:44 PM, Rob @ Symmetric Objects wrote: > I suppose you can register for a free copy at http://www.jsoftware.com/ > > Robert Howard, CTO > Symmetric Objects Inc. Did it, and am finding J absfab! Next week I'll start using it with the new book Robert discovered: > I was motivated to look into information theory, and, small world that > it is, came across the site that Robert pointed us at earlier for the > monte carlo techniques. > http://www.inference.phy.cam.ac.uk/mackay/info-theory/course.html > and the related book: > Information Theory, Inference and Learning Algorithms The goal is to be able to reproduce some of the nifty illustrations and so on that the author creates for the book. -- Owen Owen Densmore 908 Camino Santander Santa Fe, NM 87505 Cell: 505-570-0168 Home: 505-988-3787 http://backspaces.net > -----Original Message----- > From: [hidden email] [mailto:[hidden email]]On > Behalf Of Robert Holmes > Sent: Wednesday, June 09, 2004 10:07 AM > To: 'The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group' > Subject: RE: [FRIAM] Survey: How do you use Mathematica? > > > Recently came across something called J - a successor to APL (I > think). No > idea where to download a copy, but there's a guide to it coming out > soon. > See > http://bookmarkphysics.iop.org/bookpge.htm?ID=13zpeLsCyYpSaMq- > lqTO6lOw&book= > 1408h > > - rh > >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Owen Densmore [mailto:[hidden email]] >> Sent: Wednesday, June 09, 2004 9:06 AM >> To: The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Friam >> Subject: [FRIAM] Survey: How do you use Mathematica? >> >> >> I'm thinking of diving into Mathematica, and was wondering if >> any of us >> Friam-ers use Mathematica and if so, how .. i.e. in what context? >> >> Also, if you are using a different symbolic mathematical system, I'd >> like to know about it as well .. what you're using and how, as above. >> >> In the open source world, gnuplot certainly is a wonderful >> tool, but as >> far as I know, there is no companion symbolic system. >> >> -- Owen >> >> Owen Densmore 908 Camino Santander Santa Fe, NM 87505 >> Cell: 505-570-0168 Home: 505-988-3787 http://backspaces.net >> >> >> ============================================================ >> FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv >> Meets Fridays 9AM @ Jane's Cafe >> Lecture schedule, archives, unsubscribe, etc.: http://www.friam.org >> >> >> > > > > ==================== > FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv > Meets Fridays 9AM @ Jane's Cafe > Lecture schedule, archives, unsubscribe, etc.: > http://www.friam.org > > > ============================================================ > FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv > Meets Fridays 9AM @ Jane's Cafe > Lecture schedule, archives, unsubscribe, etc.: > http://www.friam.org ============================================================ FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv Meets Fridays 9AM @ Jane's Cafe Lecture schedule, archives, unsubscribe, etc.: http://www.friam.org |
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