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Owen,
So far as I know, you are the only person I have ever known who has been spoofed, in the sense that you are the only person I have ever received an email message FROM who did not send it. But then it occurs to me, that perhaps you have been receiving email messags from me that I never sent. Have you ever gotten any strange email messages with my name on them? Say, about weather, or the second law of thermodynamics.. Or about spoofing, for that matter? If so, let me know. Nick Nicholas S. Thompson Professor of Psychology and Ethology Clark University nickthompson at earthlink.net http://home.earthlink.net/~nickthompson/ nthompson at clarku.edu > [Original Message] > From: <Friam-request at redfish.com> > To: <Friam at redfish.com> > Date: 9/14/2005 10:00:31 AM > Subject: Friam Digest, Vol 27, Issue 13 > > Send Friam mailing list submissions to > Friam at redfish.com > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > http://redfish.com/mailman/listinfo/friam_redfish.com > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > Friam-request at redfish.com > > You can reach the person managing the list at > Friam-owner at redfish.com > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of Friam digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Re: Ver 1.0 -- Workshop on database validity - CALL FOR > PAPERS (Giles Bowkett) > 2. Re: Ver 1.0 -- Workshop on database validity - CALL FOR > PAPERS (Giles Bowkett) > 3. Signed Email (Owen Densmore) > 4. Re: Signed Email (Tim Densmore) > 5. Re: Signed Email (Owen Densmore) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Tue, 13 Sep 2005 12:56:31 -0600 > From: Giles Bowkett <gilesb at gmail.com> > Subject: Re: [FRIAM] Ver 1.0 -- Workshop on database validity - CALL > FOR PAPERS > To: J T Johnson <tom at jtjohnson.com>, The Friday Morning Applied > Complexity Coffee Group <Friam at redfish.com> > Cc: "Friam at redfish. com" <friam at redfish.com> > Message-ID: <2d81dedb05091311562db2770c at mail.gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 > > Hi all -- quick intro, I'm a Web developer, I discovered this list > while in California/considering returning to Santa Fe, Steve G. told > me about it, now I'm back in SFe, so I subbed and I've been lurking > for a bit. > > Anyway, if this is going to be an actual physical conference, I just > wanted to say that your dream keynote speaker might be David Brin. > He's a sci-fi author with a doctoral degree in some kind of physics (I > think) and he's written a nonfiction book called "The Transparent > Society" (or something very similar). The basic idea is that the only > way to ensure liberty and security and other basic common-good things > is to expose these various databases and make them all entirely > public, so that their data can be cross-checked very easily. Of course > a lot of his book has to do with governmental databases, police > surveillance video, and so on and so forth. I think the book was > written before 9/11 but has only become more relevant since then. > Obviously he'd have some great things to say if you managed to land > him. > > > On 9/12/05, J T Johnson <tom at jtjohnson.com> wrote: > > All: > > > > This will be going to listservs in a week or two, but I wanted to > > extend a personal invitation to join us in Ver 1.0. Some of the FRIAM > > gang have already indicated their intent to participate, once again > > illustrating the quite amazing level of intellectual resources we have > > in the small town in the Southwest. > > > > We do hope you will consider preparing a paper because your years of > > experience and insights will be infinitely valuable in breaking what > > appears to be new ground > > > > See the attached for more details. > > > > -tom > > > > ---------------------------------------------------- > > > > CALL FOR PAPERS > > > > Ver 1.0 > > A workshop on public database verification > > for journalists and social scientists > > > > April 9-12, 2006 > > Santa Fe, NM USA > > > > Sponsored by the Institute for Analytic Journalism > > http://www.analyticjournalism.com > > > > THE CHALLENGE:: > > An uncountable number of public agency databases have been created in > > the past 30 years. More and more, public and private decision-makers > > draw on this collected, digital data to make decisions about > > everything from disciplining doctors to zoning decisions to law > > enforcement to deciding who gets to vote. The often-unquestioned > > assumption is that the data, as found, analyzed and presented by a > > government or quasi-government agency, is valid. Increasingly, > > anecdotal evidence indicates that data is riddled with serious errors. > > Often, if initial investigations indicate the data is too suspect -- > > and the cost to clean the data by hand or automatically too high -- > > then good and important analysis and investigations are put aside. > > > > THE FOCUS: > > Twenty participants in the three-day workshop will explore developing > > statistical and other methodological tools suitable for social > > scientists, biomedical and behavioral researchers, journalists and > > other interested investigators to determine the veracity of public > > records databases. > > -- Participants will learn how reporters and public administrators > > discovered, analyzed, verified and corrected public databases. > > -- Participants will learn how biomedical researchers, social > > scientists and investigators from other disciplines cope with the > > record validation problem. > > -- Participants, in small-group breakout sessions, will develop > > first-phase experimental strategies to ultimately measure the validity > > of databases. > > -- The intent is to approach the problem of database veracity at a > > high theoretical/experimental level while constantly keeping in mind > > the pragmatic needs of analysts. > > > > THE PARTICIPANTS:: > > By invitation based on proposals for submitted papers and > > presentations. Eight to ten journalists with track records of > > high-concept involvement in analytic journalism and who have > > demonstrated in-depth knowledge of database sciences will participate. > > An equal number of participants will be biomedical researchers, > > public administrators, data-mining experts, statisticians, forensic > > accountants, computer scientists and social scientists interested in > > the problem of database veracity. > > > > More detailed information found at: > > > > http://www.ver1point0.org/ > > ________________________________ > > > > We look forward to your participation. > > > > -Tom Johnson > > > > ============================================== > > Institute for Analytic Journalism > > Santa Fe, NM USA > > http://www.analyticjournalism.com > > > > Co-directors: > > Steve Doig, J. T. Johnson, Steve Ross > > ============================================== > > > > > > ============================================================ > > FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv > > Meets Fridays 9:30a-11:30 at ad hoc locations > > Lecture schedule, archives, unsubscribe, etc.: > > http://www.friam.org > > > > > > > > > -- > Giles Bowkett = Giles Goat Boy > http://www.gilesgoatboy.org/ > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 2 > Date: Tue, 13 Sep 2005 12:56:31 -0600 > From: Giles Bowkett <gilesb at gmail.com> > Subject: Re: [FRIAM] Ver 1.0 -- Workshop on database validity - CALL > FOR PAPERS > To: J T Johnson <tom at jtjohnson.com>, The Friday Morning Applied > Complexity Coffee Group <Friam at redfish.com> > Cc: "Friam at redfish. com" <friam at redfish.com> > Message-ID: <2d81dedb05091311562db2770c at mail.gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 > > Hi all -- quick intro, I'm a Web developer, I discovered this list > while in California/considering returning to Santa Fe, Steve G. told > me about it, now I'm back in SFe, so I subbed and I've been lurking > for a bit. > > Anyway, if this is going to be an actual physical conference, I just > wanted to say that your dream keynote speaker might be David Brin. > He's a sci-fi author with a doctoral degree in some kind of physics (I > think) and he's written a nonfiction book called "The Transparent > Society" (or something very similar). The basic idea is that the only > way to ensure liberty and security and other basic common-good things > is to expose these various databases and make them all entirely > public, so that their data can be cross-checked very easily. Of course > a lot of his book has to do with governmental databases, police > surveillance video, and so on and so forth. I think the book was > written before 9/11 but has only become more relevant since then. > Obviously he'd have some great things to say if you managed to land > him. > > > On 9/12/05, J T Johnson <tom at jtjohnson.com> wrote: > > All: > > > > This will be going to listservs in a week or two, but I wanted to > > extend a personal invitation to join us in Ver 1.0. Some of the FRIAM > > gang have already indicated their intent to participate, once again > > illustrating the quite amazing level of intellectual resources we have > > in the small town in the Southwest. > > > > We do hope you will consider preparing a paper because your years of > > experience and insights will be infinitely valuable in breaking what > > appears to be new ground > > > > See the attached for more details. > > > > -tom > > > > ---------------------------------------------------- > > > > CALL FOR PAPERS > > > > Ver 1.0 > > A workshop on public database verification > > for journalists and social scientists > > > > April 9-12, 2006 > > Santa Fe, NM USA > > > > Sponsored by the Institute for Analytic Journalism > > http://www.analyticjournalism.com > > > > THE CHALLENGE:: > > An uncountable number of public agency databases have been created in > > the past 30 years. More and more, public and private decision-makers > > draw on this collected, digital data to make decisions about > > everything from disciplining doctors to zoning decisions to law > > enforcement to deciding who gets to vote. The often-unquestioned > > assumption is that the data, as found, analyzed and presented by a > > government or quasi-government agency, is valid. Increasingly, > > anecdotal evidence indicates that data is riddled with serious errors. > > Often, if initial investigations indicate the data is too suspect -- > > and the cost to clean the data by hand or automatically too high -- > > then good and important analysis and investigations are put aside. > > > > THE FOCUS: > > Twenty participants in the three-day workshop will explore developing > > statistical and other methodological tools suitable for social > > scientists, biomedical and behavioral researchers, journalists and > > other interested investigators to determine the veracity of public > > records databases. > > -- Participants will learn how reporters and public administrators > > discovered, analyzed, verified and corrected public databases. > > -- Participants will learn how biomedical researchers, social > > scientists and investigators from other disciplines cope with the > > record validation problem. > > -- Participants, in small-group breakout sessions, will develop > > first-phase experimental strategies to ultimately measure the validity > > of databases. > > -- The intent is to approach the problem of database veracity at a > > high theoretical/experimental level while constantly keeping in mind > > the pragmatic needs of analysts. > > > > THE PARTICIPANTS:: > > By invitation based on proposals for submitted papers and > > presentations. Eight to ten journalists with track records of > > high-concept involvement in analytic journalism and who have > > demonstrated in-depth knowledge of database sciences will participate. > > An equal number of participants will be biomedical researchers, > > public administrators, data-mining experts, statisticians, forensic > > accountants, computer scientists and social scientists interested in > > the problem of database veracity. > > > > More detailed information found at: > > > > http://www.ver1point0.org/ > > ________________________________ > > > > We look forward to your participation. > > > > -Tom Johnson > > > > ============================================== > > Institute for Analytic Journalism > > Santa Fe, NM USA > > http://www.analyticjournalism.com > > > > Co-directors: > > Steve Doig, J. T. Johnson, Steve Ross > > ============================================== > > > > > > ============================================================ > > FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv > > Meets Fridays 9:30a-11:30 at ad hoc locations > > Lecture schedule, archives, unsubscribe, etc.: > > http://www.friam.org > > > > > > > > > -- > Giles Bowkett = Giles Goat Boy > http://www.gilesgoatboy.org/ > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 3 > Date: Wed, 14 Sep 2005 08:39:27 -0600 > From: Owen Densmore <owen at backspaces.net> > Subject: [FRIAM] Signed Email > To: The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Friam <friam at redfish.com> > Message-ID: <F873A1DC-6A80-49B2-AC9B-5BF77E65A601 at backspaces.net> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed > > I'm considering use of secure email: encrypted/decrypted with public > key crypto. Do many folks do this? I'd be interested to here their > experiences. > > -- Owen > > Owen Densmore - http://backspaces.net - http://redfish.com - http:// > friam.org > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 4 > Date: Wed, 14 Sep 2005 09:44:25 -0600 > From: Tim Densmore <tim at backspaces.net> > Subject: Re: [FRIAM] Signed Email > To: The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group > <Friam at redfish.com> > Message-ID: <b8e462829f6789f4886792b63732c70d at backspaces.net> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed > > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > Hash: SHA1 > > Actually encrypting the mail, or just digitally signing it? Either > way, look at GPGMail - it's a 3rd party add-on for mail.app that I > found easy to install and very user friendly. Not sure it works with > tiger yet though... > > http://www.sente.ch/software/GPGMail/ > > Thank you, > Tim Densmore > > - -------------------------- > > "Linux could drink FreeBSD under the table." > > - -Unknown Internet Source > On Sep 14, 2005, at 8:39 AM, Owen Densmore wrote: > > > I'm considering use of secure email: encrypted/decrypted with public > > key crypto. Do many folks do this? I'd be interested to here their > > experiences. > > > > -- Owen > > > > Owen Densmore - http://backspaces.net - http://redfish.com - http:// > > friam.org > > > > > > > > ============================================================ > > FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv > > Meets Fridays 9:30a-11:30 at ad hoc locations > > Lecture schedule, archives, unsubscribe, etc.: > > http://www.friam.org > > > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- > Version: GnuPG v1.2.4 (Darwin) > > iD8DBQFDKEVZyzaSrjSqatARArGTAJ9oJ4r3SYhFhCTziCHB8wHP1tM4vwCdH0Nf > QaYvuocx3Zd4ok66Sbxze6U= > =f9YS > -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 5 > Date: Wed, 14 Sep 2005 09:50:15 -0600 > From: Owen Densmore <owen at backspaces.net> > Subject: Re: [FRIAM] Signed Email > To: The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group > <Friam at redfish.com> > Message-ID: <7FBD0461-8D01-47E6-B576-A970C0113118 at backspaces.net> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed > > On Sep 14, 2005, at 9:44 AM, Tim Densmore wrote: > > Actually encrypting the mail, or just digitally signing it? > > Good point. I suppose the high order bit is simply digitally signing > it so that it insures the mail is from me. Authentication vs Privacy. > > > Either > > way, look at GPGMail - it's a 3rd party add-on for mail.app that I > > found easy to install and very user friendly. Not sure it works with > > tiger yet though... > > > > http://www.sente.ch/software/GPGMail/ > > I'll check it out. > > > Thank you, > > Tim Densmore > > > > - -------------------------- > > > > "Linux could drink FreeBSD under the table." > > > -- Owen > > Owen Densmore - http://backspaces.net - http://redfish.com - http:// > friam.org > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > _______________________________________________ > Friam mailing list > Friam at redfish.com > http://redfish.com/mailman/listinfo/friam_redfish.com > > > End of Friam Digest, Vol 27, Issue 13 > ************************************* |
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I've heard of a few people being spoofed in the open source world,
which can get a bit "catty". I've never heard of scientists being spoofed, partly because it seems hard to do convincingly without being a fellow scientist, and then what is the point? Cheers On Thu, Sep 15, 2005 at 11:33:44AM -0600, Nicholas Thompson wrote: > Owen, > > So far as I know, you are the only person I have ever known who has been > spoofed, in the sense that you are the only person I have ever received an > email message FROM who did not send it. > > But then it occurs to me, that perhaps you have been receiving email > messags from me that I never sent. Have you ever gotten any strange email > messages with my name on them? Say, about weather, or the second law of > thermodynamics.. Or about spoofing, for that matter? > > If so, let me know. > > Nick > > Nicholas S. Thompson > Professor of Psychology and Ethology > Clark University > nickthompson at earthlink.net > http://home.earthlink.net/~nickthompson/ > nthompson at clarku.edu > > > > [Original Message] > > From: <Friam-request at redfish.com> > > To: <Friam at redfish.com> > > Date: 9/14/2005 10:00:31 AM > > Subject: Friam Digest, Vol 27, Issue 13 > > > > Send Friam mailing list submissions to > > Friam at redfish.com > > > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > > http://redfish.com/mailman/listinfo/friam_redfish.com > > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > > Friam-request at redfish.com > > > > You can reach the person managing the list at > > Friam-owner at redfish.com > > > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > > than "Re: Contents of Friam digest..." > > > > > > Today's Topics: > > > > 1. Re: Ver 1.0 -- Workshop on database validity - CALL FOR > > PAPERS (Giles Bowkett) > > 2. Re: Ver 1.0 -- Workshop on database validity - CALL FOR > > PAPERS (Giles Bowkett) > > 3. Signed Email (Owen Densmore) > > 4. Re: Signed Email (Tim Densmore) > > 5. Re: Signed Email (Owen Densmore) > > > > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > Message: 1 > > Date: Tue, 13 Sep 2005 12:56:31 -0600 > > From: Giles Bowkett <gilesb at gmail.com> > > Subject: Re: [FRIAM] Ver 1.0 -- Workshop on database validity - CALL > > FOR PAPERS > > To: J T Johnson <tom at jtjohnson.com>, The Friday Morning Applied > > Complexity Coffee Group <Friam at redfish.com> > > Cc: "Friam at redfish. com" <friam at redfish.com> > > Message-ID: <2d81dedb05091311562db2770c at mail.gmail.com> > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 > > > > Hi all -- quick intro, I'm a Web developer, I discovered this list > > while in California/considering returning to Santa Fe, Steve G. told > > me about it, now I'm back in SFe, so I subbed and I've been lurking > > for a bit. > > > > Anyway, if this is going to be an actual physical conference, I just > > wanted to say that your dream keynote speaker might be David Brin. > > He's a sci-fi author with a doctoral degree in some kind of physics (I > > think) and he's written a nonfiction book called "The Transparent > > Society" (or something very similar). The basic idea is that the only > > way to ensure liberty and security and other basic common-good things > > is to expose these various databases and make them all entirely > > public, so that their data can be cross-checked very easily. Of course > > a lot of his book has to do with governmental databases, police > > surveillance video, and so on and so forth. I think the book was > > written before 9/11 but has only become more relevant since then. > > Obviously he'd have some great things to say if you managed to land > > him. > > > > > > On 9/12/05, J T Johnson <tom at jtjohnson.com> wrote: > > > All: > > > > > > This will be going to listservs in a week or two, but I wanted to > > > extend a personal invitation to join us in Ver 1.0. Some of the FRIAM > > > gang have already indicated their intent to participate, once again > > > illustrating the quite amazing level of intellectual resources we have > > > in the small town in the Southwest. > > > > > > We do hope you will consider preparing a paper because your years of > > > experience and insights will be infinitely valuable in breaking what > > > appears to be new ground > > > > > > See the attached for more details. > > > > > > -tom > > > > > > ---------------------------------------------------- > > > > > > CALL FOR PAPERS > > > > > > Ver 1.0 > > > A workshop on public database verification > > > for journalists and social scientists > > > > > > April 9-12, 2006 > > > Santa Fe, NM USA > > > > > > Sponsored by the Institute for Analytic Journalism > > > http://www.analyticjournalism.com > > > > > > THE CHALLENGE:: > > > An uncountable number of public agency databases have been created in > > > the past 30 years. More and more, public and private decision-makers > > > draw on this collected, digital data to make decisions about > > > everything from disciplining doctors to zoning decisions to law > > > enforcement to deciding who gets to vote. The often-unquestioned > > > assumption is that the data, as found, analyzed and presented by a > > > government or quasi-government agency, is valid. Increasingly, > > > anecdotal evidence indicates that data is riddled with serious errors. > > > Often, if initial investigations indicate the data is too suspect -- > > > and the cost to clean the data by hand or automatically too high -- > > > then good and important analysis and investigations are put aside. > > > > > > THE FOCUS: > > > Twenty participants in the three-day workshop will explore developing > > > statistical and other methodological tools suitable for social > > > scientists, biomedical and behavioral researchers, journalists and > > > other interested investigators to determine the veracity of public > > > records databases. > > > -- Participants will learn how reporters and public administrators > > > discovered, analyzed, verified and corrected public databases. > > > -- Participants will learn how biomedical researchers, social > > > scientists and investigators from other disciplines cope with the > > > record validation problem. > > > -- Participants, in small-group breakout sessions, will develop > > > first-phase experimental strategies to ultimately measure the validity > > > of databases. > > > -- The intent is to approach the problem of database veracity at a > > > high theoretical/experimental level while constantly keeping in mind > > > the pragmatic needs of analysts. > > > > > > THE PARTICIPANTS:: > > > By invitation based on proposals for submitted papers and > > > presentations. Eight to ten journalists with track records of > > > high-concept involvement in analytic journalism and who have > > > demonstrated in-depth knowledge of database sciences will participate. > > > An equal number of participants will be biomedical researchers, > > > public administrators, data-mining experts, statisticians, forensic > > > accountants, computer scientists and social scientists interested in > > > the problem of database veracity. > > > > > > More detailed information found at: > > > > > > http://www.ver1point0.org/ > > > ________________________________ > > > > > > We look forward to your participation. > > > > > > -Tom Johnson > > > > > > ============================================== > > > Institute for Analytic Journalism > > > Santa Fe, NM USA > > > http://www.analyticjournalism.com > > > > > > Co-directors: > > > Steve Doig, J. T. Johnson, Steve Ross > > > ============================================== > > > > > > > > > ============================================================ > > > FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv > > > Meets Fridays 9:30a-11:30 at ad hoc locations > > > Lecture schedule, archives, unsubscribe, etc.: > > > http://www.friam.org > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > Giles Bowkett = Giles Goat Boy > > http://www.gilesgoatboy.org/ > > > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > > > Message: 2 > > Date: Tue, 13 Sep 2005 12:56:31 -0600 > > From: Giles Bowkett <gilesb at gmail.com> > > Subject: Re: [FRIAM] Ver 1.0 -- Workshop on database validity - CALL > > FOR PAPERS > > To: J T Johnson <tom at jtjohnson.com>, The Friday Morning Applied > > Complexity Coffee Group <Friam at redfish.com> > > Cc: "Friam at redfish. com" <friam at redfish.com> > > Message-ID: <2d81dedb05091311562db2770c at mail.gmail.com> > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 > > > > Hi all -- quick intro, I'm a Web developer, I discovered this list > > while in California/considering returning to Santa Fe, Steve G. told > > me about it, now I'm back in SFe, so I subbed and I've been lurking > > for a bit. > > > > Anyway, if this is going to be an actual physical conference, I just > > wanted to say that your dream keynote speaker might be David Brin. > > He's a sci-fi author with a doctoral degree in some kind of physics (I > > think) and he's written a nonfiction book called "The Transparent > > Society" (or something very similar). The basic idea is that the only > > way to ensure liberty and security and other basic common-good things > > is to expose these various databases and make them all entirely > > public, so that their data can be cross-checked very easily. Of course > > a lot of his book has to do with governmental databases, police > > surveillance video, and so on and so forth. I think the book was > > written before 9/11 but has only become more relevant since then. > > Obviously he'd have some great things to say if you managed to land > > him. > > > > > > On 9/12/05, J T Johnson <tom at jtjohnson.com> wrote: > > > All: > > > > > > This will be going to listservs in a week or two, but I wanted to > > > extend a personal invitation to join us in Ver 1.0. Some of the FRIAM > > > gang have already indicated their intent to participate, once again > > > illustrating the quite amazing level of intellectual resources we have > > > in the small town in the Southwest. > > > > > > We do hope you will consider preparing a paper because your years of > > > experience and insights will be infinitely valuable in breaking what > > > appears to be new ground > > > > > > See the attached for more details. > > > > > > -tom > > > > > > ---------------------------------------------------- > > > > > > CALL FOR PAPERS > > > > > > Ver 1.0 > > > A workshop on public database verification > > > for journalists and social scientists > > > > > > April 9-12, 2006 > > > Santa Fe, NM USA > > > > > > Sponsored by the Institute for Analytic Journalism > > > http://www.analyticjournalism.com > > > > > > THE CHALLENGE:: > > > An uncountable number of public agency databases have been created in > > > the past 30 years. More and more, public and private decision-makers > > > draw on this collected, digital data to make decisions about > > > everything from disciplining doctors to zoning decisions to law > > > enforcement to deciding who gets to vote. The often-unquestioned > > > assumption is that the data, as found, analyzed and presented by a > > > government or quasi-government agency, is valid. Increasingly, > > > anecdotal evidence indicates that data is riddled with serious errors. > > > Often, if initial investigations indicate the data is too suspect -- > > > and the cost to clean the data by hand or automatically too high -- > > > then good and important analysis and investigations are put aside. > > > > > > THE FOCUS: > > > Twenty participants in the three-day workshop will explore developing > > > statistical and other methodological tools suitable for social > > > scientists, biomedical and behavioral researchers, journalists and > > > other interested investigators to determine the veracity of public > > > records databases. > > > -- Participants will learn how reporters and public administrators > > > discovered, analyzed, verified and corrected public databases. > > > -- Participants will learn how biomedical researchers, social > > > scientists and investigators from other disciplines cope with the > > > record validation problem. > > > -- Participants, in small-group breakout sessions, will develop > > > first-phase experimental strategies to ultimately measure the validity > > > of databases. > > > -- The intent is to approach the problem of database veracity at a > > > high theoretical/experimental level while constantly keeping in mind > > > the pragmatic needs of analysts. > > > > > > THE PARTICIPANTS:: > > > By invitation based on proposals for submitted papers and > > > presentations. Eight to ten journalists with track records of > > > high-concept involvement in analytic journalism and who have > > > demonstrated in-depth knowledge of database sciences will participate. > > > An equal number of participants will be biomedical researchers, > > > public administrators, data-mining experts, statisticians, forensic > > > accountants, computer scientists and social scientists interested in > > > the problem of database veracity. > > > > > > More detailed information found at: > > > > > > http://www.ver1point0.org/ > > > ________________________________ > > > > > > We look forward to your participation. > > > > > > -Tom Johnson > > > > > > ============================================== > > > Institute for Analytic Journalism > > > Santa Fe, NM USA > > > http://www.analyticjournalism.com > > > > > > Co-directors: > > > Steve Doig, J. T. Johnson, Steve Ross > > > ============================================== > > > > > > > > > ============================================================ > > > FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv > > > Meets Fridays 9:30a-11:30 at ad hoc locations > > > Lecture schedule, archives, unsubscribe, etc.: > > > http://www.friam.org > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > Giles Bowkett = Giles Goat Boy > > http://www.gilesgoatboy.org/ > > > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > > > Message: 3 > > Date: Wed, 14 Sep 2005 08:39:27 -0600 > > From: Owen Densmore <owen at backspaces.net> > > Subject: [FRIAM] Signed Email > > To: The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Friam <friam at redfish.com> > > Message-ID: <F873A1DC-6A80-49B2-AC9B-5BF77E65A601 at backspaces.net> > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed > > > > I'm considering use of secure email: encrypted/decrypted with public > > key crypto. Do many folks do this? I'd be interested to here their > > experiences. > > > > -- Owen > > > > Owen Densmore - http://backspaces.net - http://redfish.com - http:// > > friam.org > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > > > Message: 4 > > Date: Wed, 14 Sep 2005 09:44:25 -0600 > > From: Tim Densmore <tim at backspaces.net> > > Subject: Re: [FRIAM] Signed Email > > To: The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group > > <Friam at redfish.com> > > Message-ID: <b8e462829f6789f4886792b63732c70d at backspaces.net> > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed > > > > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > > Hash: SHA1 > > > > Actually encrypting the mail, or just digitally signing it? Either > > way, look at GPGMail - it's a 3rd party add-on for mail.app that I > > found easy to install and very user friendly. Not sure it works with > > tiger yet though... > > > > http://www.sente.ch/software/GPGMail/ > > > > Thank you, > > Tim Densmore > > > > - -------------------------- > > > > "Linux could drink FreeBSD under the table." > > > > - -Unknown Internet Source > > On Sep 14, 2005, at 8:39 AM, Owen Densmore wrote: > > > > > I'm considering use of secure email: encrypted/decrypted with public > > > key crypto. Do many folks do this? I'd be interested to here their > > > experiences. > > > > > > -- Owen > > > > > > Owen Densmore - http://backspaces.net - http://redfish.com - http:// > > > friam.org > > > > > > > > > > > > ============================================================ > > > FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv > > > Meets Fridays 9:30a-11:30 at ad hoc locations > > > Lecture schedule, archives, unsubscribe, etc.: > > > http://www.friam.org > > > > > > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- > > Version: GnuPG v1.2.4 (Darwin) > > > > iD8DBQFDKEVZyzaSrjSqatARArGTAJ9oJ4r3SYhFhCTziCHB8wHP1tM4vwCdH0Nf > > QaYvuocx3Zd4ok66Sbxze6U= > > =f9YS > > -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > > > Message: 5 > > Date: Wed, 14 Sep 2005 09:50:15 -0600 > > From: Owen Densmore <owen at backspaces.net> > > Subject: Re: [FRIAM] Signed Email > > To: The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group > > <Friam at redfish.com> > > Message-ID: <7FBD0461-8D01-47E6-B576-A970C0113118 at backspaces.net> > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed > > > > On Sep 14, 2005, at 9:44 AM, Tim Densmore wrote: > > > Actually encrypting the mail, or just digitally signing it? > > > > Good point. I suppose the high order bit is simply digitally signing > > it so that it insures the mail is from me. Authentication vs Privacy. > > > > > Either > > > way, look at GPGMail - it's a 3rd party add-on for mail.app that I > > > found easy to install and very user friendly. Not sure it works with > > > tiger yet though... > > > > > > http://www.sente.ch/software/GPGMail/ > > > > I'll check it out. > > > > > Thank you, > > > Tim Densmore > > > > > > - -------------------------- > > > > > > "Linux could drink FreeBSD under the table." > > > > > > -- Owen > > > > Owen Densmore - http://backspaces.net - http://redfish.com - http:// > > friam.org > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Friam mailing list > > Friam at redfish.com > > http://redfish.com/mailman/listinfo/friam_redfish.com > > > > > > End of Friam Digest, Vol 27, Issue 13 > > ************************************* > > > > ============================================================ > FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv > Meets Fridays 9:30a-11:30 at ad hoc locations > Lecture schedule, archives, unsubscribe, etc.: > http://www.friam.org -- *PS: A number of people ask me about the attachment to my email, which is of type "application/pgp-signature". Don't worry, it is not a virus. It is an electronic signature, that may be used to verify this email came from me if you have PGP or GPG installed. Otherwise, you may safely ignore this attachment. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- A/Prof Russell Standish Phone 8308 3119 (mobile) Mathematics 0425 253119 (") UNSW SYDNEY 2052 R.Standish at unsw.edu.au Australia http://parallel.hpc.unsw.edu.au/rks International prefix +612, Interstate prefix 02 ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- |
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9/10ths of this "spoofing" is virus-sent mail, sent from an infected
host computer, using the infected host's addy book as an attack vector. I suspect that if you look at the headers of the email in question, you'll see quite plainly that the email came from elsewhere. Without getting on an anti-Windows rant I'd like to ask that anyone reading this please consider this sort of thing when you purchase your next computer (not Nick in particular, of course, but everyone) -- there are alternatives. Thank you, Tim Densmore -------------------------- "Shared pain is lessened, shared joy is increased; thus do we refute entropy." --Spider Robinson On Sep 15, 2005, at 4:37 PM, Russell Standish wrote: > I've heard of a few people being spoofed in the open source world, > which can get a bit "catty". I've never heard of scientists being > spoofed, partly because it seems hard to do convincingly without being > a fellow scientist, and then what is the point? > > Cheers > > On Thu, Sep 15, 2005 at 11:33:44AM -0600, Nicholas Thompson wrote: >> Owen, >> >> So far as I know, you are the only person I have ever known who has >> been >> spoofed, in the sense that you are the only person I have ever >> received an >> email message FROM who did not send it. >> >> But then it occurs to me, that perhaps you have been receiving email >> messags from me that I never sent. Have you ever gotten any strange >> messages with my name on them? Say, about weather, or the second law >> of >> thermodynamics.. Or about spoofing, for that matter? >> >> If so, let me know. >> >> Nick >> >> Nicholas S. Thompson >> Professor of Psychology and Ethology >> Clark University >> nickthompson at earthlink.net >> http://home.earthlink.net/~nickthompson/ >> nthompson at clarku.edu >> >> >>> [Original Message] >>> From: <Friam-request at redfish.com> >>> To: <Friam at redfish.com> >>> Date: 9/14/2005 10:00:31 AM >>> Subject: Friam Digest, Vol 27, Issue 13 >>> >>> Send Friam mailing list submissions to >>> Friam at redfish.com >>> >>> To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit >>> http://redfish.com/mailman/listinfo/friam_redfish.com >>> or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to >>> Friam-request at redfish.com >>> >>> You can reach the person managing the list at >>> Friam-owner at redfish.com >>> >>> When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific >>> than "Re: Contents of Friam digest..." >>> >>> >>> Today's Topics: >>> >>> 1. Re: Ver 1.0 -- Workshop on database validity - CALL FOR >>> PAPERS (Giles Bowkett) >>> 2. Re: Ver 1.0 -- Workshop on database validity - CALL FOR >>> PAPERS (Giles Bowkett) >>> 3. Signed Email (Owen Densmore) >>> 4. Re: Signed Email (Tim Densmore) >>> 5. Re: Signed Email (Owen Densmore) >>> >>> >>> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >>> - >>> >>> Message: 1 >>> Date: Tue, 13 Sep 2005 12:56:31 -0600 >>> From: Giles Bowkett <gilesb at gmail.com> >>> Subject: Re: [FRIAM] Ver 1.0 -- Workshop on database validity - CALL >>> FOR PAPERS >>> To: J T Johnson <tom at jtjohnson.com>, The Friday Morning Applied >>> Complexity Coffee Group <Friam at redfish.com> >>> Cc: "Friam at redfish. com" <friam at redfish.com> >>> Message-ID: <2d81dedb05091311562db2770c at mail.gmail.com> >>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 >>> >>> Hi all -- quick intro, I'm a Web developer, I discovered this list >>> while in California/considering returning to Santa Fe, Steve G. told >>> me about it, now I'm back in SFe, so I subbed and I've been lurking >>> for a bit. >>> >>> Anyway, if this is going to be an actual physical conference, I just >>> wanted to say that your dream keynote speaker might be David Brin. >>> He's a sci-fi author with a doctoral degree in some kind of physics >>> (I >>> think) and he's written a nonfiction book called "The Transparent >>> Society" (or something very similar). The basic idea is that the only >>> way to ensure liberty and security and other basic common-good things >>> is to expose these various databases and make them all entirely >>> public, so that their data can be cross-checked very easily. Of >>> course >>> a lot of his book has to do with governmental databases, police >>> surveillance video, and so on and so forth. I think the book was >>> written before 9/11 but has only become more relevant since then. >>> Obviously he'd have some great things to say if you managed to land >>> him. >>> >>> >>> On 9/12/05, J T Johnson <tom at jtjohnson.com> wrote: >>>> All: >>>> >>>> This will be going to listservs in a week or two, but I wanted to >>>> extend a personal invitation to join us in Ver 1.0. Some of the >>>> FRIAM >>>> gang have already indicated their intent to participate, once again >>>> illustrating the quite amazing level of intellectual resources we >>>> have >>>> in the small town in the Southwest. >>>> >>>> We do hope you will consider preparing a paper because your years of >>>> experience and insights will be infinitely valuable in breaking what >>>> appears to be new ground >>>> >>>> See the attached for more details. >>>> >>>> -tom >>>> >>>> ---------------------------------------------------- >>>> >>>> CALL FOR PAPERS >>>> >>>> Ver 1.0 >>>> A workshop on public database verification >>>> for journalists and social scientists >>>> >>>> April 9-12, 2006 >>>> Santa Fe, NM USA >>>> >>>> Sponsored by the Institute for Analytic Journalism >>>> http://www.analyticjournalism.com >>>> >>>> THE CHALLENGE:: >>>> An uncountable number of public agency databases have been created >>>> in >>>> the past 30 years. More and more, public and private >>>> decision-makers >>>> draw on this collected, digital data to make decisions about >>>> everything from disciplining doctors to zoning decisions to law >>>> enforcement to deciding who gets to vote. The often-unquestioned >>>> assumption is that the data, as found, analyzed and presented by a >>>> government or quasi-government agency, is valid. Increasingly, >>>> anecdotal evidence indicates that data is riddled with serious >>>> errors. >>>> Often, if initial investigations indicate the data is too suspect -- >>>> and the cost to clean the data by hand or automatically too high -- >>>> then good and important analysis and investigations are put aside. >>>> >>>> THE FOCUS: >>>> Twenty participants in the three-day workshop will explore >>>> developing >>>> statistical and other methodological tools suitable for social >>>> scientists, biomedical and behavioral researchers, journalists and >>>> other interested investigators to determine the veracity of public >>>> records databases. >>>> -- Participants will learn how reporters and public administrators >>>> discovered, analyzed, verified and corrected public databases. >>>> -- Participants will learn how biomedical researchers, social >>>> scientists and investigators from other disciplines cope with the >>>> record validation problem. >>>> -- Participants, in small-group breakout sessions, will develop >>>> first-phase experimental strategies to ultimately measure the >>>> validity >>>> of databases. >>>> -- The intent is to approach the problem of database veracity at a >>>> high theoretical/experimental level while constantly keeping in mind >>>> the pragmatic needs of analysts. >>>> >>>> THE PARTICIPANTS:: >>>> By invitation based on proposals for submitted papers and >>>> presentations. Eight to ten journalists with track records of >>>> high-concept involvement in analytic journalism and who have >>>> demonstrated in-depth knowledge of database sciences will >>>> participate. >>>> An equal number of participants will be biomedical researchers, >>>> public administrators, data-mining experts, statisticians, forensic >>>> accountants, computer scientists and social scientists interested in >>>> the problem of database veracity. >>>> >>>> More detailed information found at: >>>> >>>> http://www.ver1point0.org/ >>>> ________________________________ >>>> >>>> We look forward to your participation. >>>> >>>> -Tom Johnson >>>> >>>> ============================================== >>>> Institute for Analytic Journalism >>>> Santa Fe, NM USA >>>> http://www.analyticjournalism.com >>>> >>>> Co-directors: >>>> Steve Doig, J. T. Johnson, Steve Ross >>>> ============================================== >>>> >>>> >>>> ============================================================ >>>> FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv >>>> Meets Fridays 9:30a-11:30 at ad hoc locations >>>> Lecture schedule, archives, unsubscribe, etc.: >>>> http://www.friam.org >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> Giles Bowkett = Giles Goat Boy >>> http://www.gilesgoatboy.org/ >>> >>> >>> >>> ------------------------------ >>> >>> Message: 2 >>> Date: Tue, 13 Sep 2005 12:56:31 -0600 >>> From: Giles Bowkett <gilesb at gmail.com> >>> Subject: Re: [FRIAM] Ver 1.0 -- Workshop on database validity - CALL >>> FOR PAPERS >>> To: J T Johnson <tom at jtjohnson.com>, The Friday Morning Applied >>> Complexity Coffee Group <Friam at redfish.com> >>> Cc: "Friam at redfish. com" <friam at redfish.com> >>> Message-ID: <2d81dedb05091311562db2770c at mail.gmail.com> >>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 >>> >>> Hi all -- quick intro, I'm a Web developer, I discovered this list >>> while in California/considering returning to Santa Fe, Steve G. told >>> me about it, now I'm back in SFe, so I subbed and I've been lurking >>> for a bit. >>> >>> Anyway, if this is going to be an actual physical conference, I just >>> wanted to say that your dream keynote speaker might be David Brin. >>> He's a sci-fi author with a doctoral degree in some kind of physics >>> (I >>> think) and he's written a nonfiction book called "The Transparent >>> Society" (or something very similar). The basic idea is that the only >>> way to ensure liberty and security and other basic common-good things >>> is to expose these various databases and make them all entirely >>> public, so that their data can be cross-checked very easily. Of >>> course >>> a lot of his book has to do with governmental databases, police >>> surveillance video, and so on and so forth. I think the book was >>> written before 9/11 but has only become more relevant since then. >>> Obviously he'd have some great things to say if you managed to land >>> him. >>> >>> >>> On 9/12/05, J T Johnson <tom at jtjohnson.com> wrote: >>>> All: >>>> >>>> This will be going to listservs in a week or two, but I wanted to >>>> extend a personal invitation to join us in Ver 1.0. Some of the >>>> FRIAM >>>> gang have already indicated their intent to participate, once again >>>> illustrating the quite amazing level of intellectual resources we >>>> have >>>> in the small town in the Southwest. >>>> >>>> We do hope you will consider preparing a paper because your years of >>>> experience and insights will be infinitely valuable in breaking what >>>> appears to be new ground >>>> >>>> See the attached for more details. >>>> >>>> -tom >>>> >>>> ---------------------------------------------------- >>>> >>>> CALL FOR PAPERS >>>> >>>> Ver 1.0 >>>> A workshop on public database verification >>>> for journalists and social scientists >>>> >>>> April 9-12, 2006 >>>> Santa Fe, NM USA >>>> >>>> Sponsored by the Institute for Analytic Journalism >>>> http://www.analyticjournalism.com >>>> >>>> THE CHALLENGE:: >>>> An uncountable number of public agency databases have been created >>>> in >>>> the past 30 years. More and more, public and private >>>> decision-makers >>>> draw on this collected, digital data to make decisions about >>>> everything from disciplining doctors to zoning decisions to law >>>> enforcement to deciding who gets to vote. The often-unquestioned >>>> assumption is that the data, as found, analyzed and presented by a >>>> government or quasi-government agency, is valid. Increasingly, >>>> anecdotal evidence indicates that data is riddled with serious >>>> errors. >>>> Often, if initial investigations indicate the data is too suspect -- >>>> and the cost to clean the data by hand or automatically too high -- >>>> then good and important analysis and investigations are put aside. >>>> >>>> THE FOCUS: >>>> Twenty participants in the three-day workshop will explore >>>> developing >>>> statistical and other methodological tools suitable for social >>>> scientists, biomedical and behavioral researchers, journalists and >>>> other interested investigators to determine the veracity of public >>>> records databases. >>>> -- Participants will learn how reporters and public administrators >>>> discovered, analyzed, verified and corrected public databases. >>>> -- Participants will learn how biomedical researchers, social >>>> scientists and investigators from other disciplines cope with the >>>> record validation problem. >>>> -- Participants, in small-group breakout sessions, will develop >>>> first-phase experimental strategies to ultimately measure the >>>> validity >>>> of databases. >>>> -- The intent is to approach the problem of database veracity at a >>>> high theoretical/experimental level while constantly keeping in mind >>>> the pragmatic needs of analysts. >>>> >>>> THE PARTICIPANTS:: >>>> By invitation based on proposals for submitted papers and >>>> presentations. Eight to ten journalists with track records of >>>> high-concept involvement in analytic journalism and who have >>>> demonstrated in-depth knowledge of database sciences will >>>> participate. >>>> An equal number of participants will be biomedical researchers, >>>> public administrators, data-mining experts, statisticians, forensic >>>> accountants, computer scientists and social scientists interested in >>>> the problem of database veracity. >>>> >>>> More detailed information found at: >>>> >>>> http://www.ver1point0.org/ >>>> ________________________________ >>>> >>>> We look forward to your participation. >>>> >>>> -Tom Johnson >>>> >>>> ============================================== >>>> Institute for Analytic Journalism >>>> Santa Fe, NM USA >>>> http://www.analyticjournalism.com >>>> >>>> Co-directors: >>>> Steve Doig, J. T. Johnson, Steve Ross >>>> ============================================== >>>> >>>> >>>> ============================================================ >>>> FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv >>>> Meets Fridays 9:30a-11:30 at ad hoc locations >>>> Lecture schedule, archives, unsubscribe, etc.: >>>> http://www.friam.org >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> Giles Bowkett = Giles Goat Boy >>> http://www.gilesgoatboy.org/ >>> >>> >>> >>> ------------------------------ >>> >>> Message: 3 >>> Date: Wed, 14 Sep 2005 08:39:27 -0600 >>> From: Owen Densmore <owen at backspaces.net> >>> Subject: [FRIAM] Signed Email >>> To: The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Friam <friam at redfish.com> >>> Message-ID: <F873A1DC-6A80-49B2-AC9B-5BF77E65A601 at backspaces.net> >>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed >>> >>> I'm considering use of secure email: encrypted/decrypted with public >>> key crypto. Do many folks do this? I'd be interested to here their >>> experiences. >>> >>> -- Owen >>> >>> Owen Densmore - http://backspaces.net - http://redfish.com - http:// >>> friam.org >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> ------------------------------ >>> >>> Message: 4 >>> Date: Wed, 14 Sep 2005 09:44:25 -0600 >>> From: Tim Densmore <tim at backspaces.net> >>> Subject: Re: [FRIAM] Signed Email >>> To: The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group >>> <Friam at redfish.com> >>> Message-ID: <b8e462829f6789f4886792b63732c70d at backspaces.net> >>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed >>> >>> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- >>> Hash: SHA1 >>> >>> Actually encrypting the mail, or just digitally signing it? Either >>> way, look at GPGMail - it's a 3rd party add-on for mail.app that I >>> found easy to install and very user friendly. Not sure it works with >>> tiger yet though... >>> >>> http://www.sente.ch/software/GPGMail/ >>> >>> Thank you, >>> Tim Densmore >>> >>> - -------------------------- >>> >>> "Linux could drink FreeBSD under the table." >>> >>> - -Unknown Internet Source >>> On Sep 14, 2005, at 8:39 AM, Owen Densmore wrote: >>> >>>> I'm considering use of secure email: encrypted/decrypted with public >>>> key crypto. Do many folks do this? I'd be interested to here their >>>> experiences. >>>> >>>> -- Owen >>>> >>>> Owen Densmore - http://backspaces.net - http://redfish.com - http:// >>>> friam.org >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> ============================================================ >>>> FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv >>>> Meets Fridays 9:30a-11:30 at ad hoc locations >>>> Lecture schedule, archives, unsubscribe, etc.: >>>> http://www.friam.org >>> >>> >>> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- >>> Version: GnuPG v1.2.4 (Darwin) >>> >>> iD8DBQFDKEVZyzaSrjSqatARArGTAJ9oJ4r3SYhFhCTziCHB8wHP1tM4vwCdH0Nf >>> QaYvuocx3Zd4ok66Sbxze6U= >>> =f9YS >>> -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> ------------------------------ >>> >>> Message: 5 >>> Date: Wed, 14 Sep 2005 09:50:15 -0600 >>> From: Owen Densmore <owen at backspaces.net> >>> Subject: Re: [FRIAM] Signed Email >>> To: The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group >>> <Friam at redfish.com> >>> Message-ID: <7FBD0461-8D01-47E6-B576-A970C0113118 at backspaces.net> >>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed >>> >>> On Sep 14, 2005, at 9:44 AM, Tim Densmore wrote: >>>> Actually encrypting the mail, or just digitally signing it? >>> >>> Good point. I suppose the high order bit is simply digitally signing >>> it so that it insures the mail is from me. Authentication vs >>> Privacy. >>> >>>> Either >>>> way, look at GPGMail - it's a 3rd party add-on for mail.app that I >>>> found easy to install and very user friendly. Not sure it works >>>> with >>>> tiger yet though... >>>> >>>> http://www.sente.ch/software/GPGMail/ >>> >>> I'll check it out. >>> >>>> Thank you, >>>> Tim Densmore >>>> >>>> - -------------------------- >>>> >>>> "Linux could drink FreeBSD under the table." >>> >>> >>> -- Owen >>> >>> Owen Densmore - http://backspaces.net - http://redfish.com - http:// >>> friam.org >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> ------------------------------ >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Friam mailing list >>> Friam at redfish.com >>> http://redfish.com/mailman/listinfo/friam_redfish.com >>> >>> >>> End of Friam Digest, Vol 27, Issue 13 >>> ************************************* >> >> >> >> ============================================================ >> FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv >> Meets Fridays 9:30a-11:30 at ad hoc locations >> Lecture schedule, archives, unsubscribe, etc.: >> http://www.friam.org > > -- > *PS: A number of people ask me about the attachment to my email, which > is of type "application/pgp-signature". 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We're talking about different things - I often get email from "myself"
advertising cheap pills or the latest get rich quick scheme in Africa. Since I don't live in Nigeria, nor am I in pharmaceuticals, it is clear this is not spoofing my identity. Everyone who has been on the internet longer than a couple of hours knows that the email sender field is practically worthless. What signed emails aim to do is prevent a rarer, but potentially more serious form of spoofing - someone claiming to be me, but misrepresenting me, for whatever nefarious purpose. So I sign my email with GPG, which allows anyone to check (if they know my GPG public key) that I did indeed send the email. If the email is not signed, I can deny I sent the email, and you will have to take my denial on face value, since we all know about send field spoofing. Cheers On Thu, Sep 15, 2005 at 05:29:55PM -0600, Tim Densmore wrote: > 9/10ths of this "spoofing" is virus-sent mail, sent from an infected > host computer, using the infected host's addy book as an attack vector. > I suspect that if you look at the headers of the email in question, > you'll see quite plainly that the email came from elsewhere. Without > getting on an anti-Windows rant I'd like to ask that anyone reading > this please consider this sort of thing when you purchase your next > computer (not Nick in particular, of course, but everyone) -- there are > alternatives. > > Thank you, > Tim Densmore > > -------------------------- > > "Shared pain is lessened, shared joy is increased; thus do we refute > entropy." > --Spider Robinson > On Sep 15, 2005, at 4:37 PM, Russell Standish wrote: > > > > I've heard of a few people being spoofed in the open source world, > > which can get a bit "catty". I've never heard of scientists being > > spoofed, partly because it seems hard to do convincingly without > > being > > a fellow scientist, and then what is the point? > > > > Cheers > > > > On Thu, Sep 15, 2005 at 11:33:44AM -0600, Nicholas Thompson wrote: > > > > > Owen, > > > > > > So far as I know, you are the only person I have ever known who > > > has been > > > spoofed, in the sense that you are the only person I have ever > > > received an > > > email message FROM who did not send it. > > > > > > But then it occurs to me, that perhaps you have been receiving > > > messags from me that I never sent. Have you ever gotten any > > > strange email > > > messages with my name on them? Say, about weather, or the second > > > law of > > > thermodynamics.. Or about spoofing, for that matter? > > > > > > If so, let me know. > > > > > > Nick > > > > > > Nicholas S. Thompson > > > Professor of Psychology and Ethology > > > Clark University > > > nickthompson at earthlink.net > > > http://home.earthlink.net/~nickthompson/ > > > nthompson at clarku.edu > > > > > > > > > > > > > [Original Message] > > > > From: <Friam-request at redfish.com> > > > > To: <Friam at redfish.com> > > > > Date: 9/14/2005 10:00:31 AM > > > > Subject: Friam Digest, Vol 27, Issue 13 > > > > > > > > Send Friam mailing list submissions to > > > > Friam at redfish.com > > > > > > > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > > > > http://redfish.com/mailman/listinfo/friam_redfish.com > > > > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > > > > Friam-request at redfish.com > > > > > > > > You can reach the person managing the list at > > > > Friam-owner at redfish.com > > > > > > > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more > > > > specific > > > > than "Re: Contents of Friam digest..." > > > > > > > > > > > > Today's Topics: > > > > > > > > 1. Re: Ver 1.0 -- Workshop on database validity - CALL FOR > > > > PAPERS (Giles Bowkett) > > > > 2. Re: Ver 1.0 -- Workshop on database validity - CALL FOR > > > > PAPERS (Giles Bowkett) > > > > 3. Signed Email (Owen Densmore) > > > > 4. Re: Signed Email (Tim Densmore) > > > > 5. Re: Signed Email (Owen Densmore) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > > > > > > > > > Message: 1 > > > > Date: Tue, 13 Sep 2005 12:56:31 -0600 > > > > From: Giles Bowkett <gilesb at gmail.com> > > > > Subject: Re: [FRIAM] Ver 1.0 -- Workshop on database validity - > > > > CALL > > > > FOR PAPERS > > > > To: J T Johnson <tom at jtjohnson.com>, The Friday Morning > > > > Applied > > > > Complexity Coffee Group <Friam at redfish.com> > > > > Cc: "Friam at redfish. com" <friam at redfish.com> > > > > Message-ID: <2d81dedb05091311562db2770c at mail.gmail.com> > > > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 > > > > > > > > Hi all -- quick intro, I'm a Web developer, I discovered this > > > > list > > > > while in California/considering returning to Santa Fe, Steve G. > > > > told > > > > me about it, now I'm back in SFe, so I subbed and I've been > > > > lurking > > > > for a bit. > > > > > > > > Anyway, if this is going to be an actual physical conference, I > > > > just > > > > wanted to say that your dream keynote speaker might be David > > > > Brin. > > > > He's a sci-fi author with a doctoral degree in some kind of > > > > physics (I > > > > think) and he's written a nonfiction book called "The > > > > Transparent > > > > Society" (or something very similar). The basic idea is that > > > > the only > > > > way to ensure liberty and security and other basic common-good > > > > things > > > > is to expose these various databases and make them all entirely > > > > public, so that their data can be cross-checked very easily. Of > > > > course > > > > a lot of his book has to do with governmental databases, police > > > > surveillance video, and so on and so forth. I think the book > > > > was > > > > written before 9/11 but has only become more relevant since > > > > then. > > > > Obviously he'd have some great things to say if you managed to > > > > land > > > > him. > > > > > > > > > > > > On 9/12/05, J T Johnson <tom at jtjohnson.com> wrote: > > > > > > > > > All: > > > > > > > > > > This will be going to listservs in a week or two, but I > > > > > wanted to > > > > > extend a personal invitation to join us in Ver 1.0. Some of > > > > > the FRIAM > > > > > gang have already indicated their intent to participate, once > > > > > again > > > > > illustrating the quite amazing level of intellectual > > > > > resources we have > > > > > in the small town in the Southwest. > > > > > > > > > > We do hope you will consider preparing a paper because your > > > > > years of > > > > > experience and insights will be infinitely valuable in > > > > > breaking what > > > > > appears to be new ground > > > > > > > > > > See the attached for more details. > > > > > > > > > > -tom > > > > > > > > > > ---------------------------------------------------- > > > > > > > > > > CALL FOR PAPERS > > > > > > > > > > Ver 1.0 > > > > > A workshop on public database verification > > > > > for journalists and social scientists > > > > > > > > > > April 9-12, 2006 > > > > > Santa Fe, NM USA > > > > > > > > > > Sponsored by the Institute for Analytic Journalism > > > > > http://www.analyticjournalism.com > > > > > > > > > > THE CHALLENGE:: > > > > > An uncountable number of public agency databases have been > > > > > created in > > > > > the past 30 years. More and more, public and private > > > > > decision-makers > > > > > draw on this collected, digital data to make decisions about > > > > > everything from disciplining doctors to zoning decisions to > > > > > law > > > > > enforcement to deciding who gets to vote. The > > > > > often-unquestioned > > > > > assumption is that the data, as found, analyzed and presented > > > > > by a > > > > > government or quasi-government agency, is valid. > > > > > Increasingly, > > > > > anecdotal evidence indicates that data is riddled with > > > > > serious errors. > > > > > Often, if initial investigations indicate the data is too > > > > > suspect -- > > > > > and the cost to clean the data by hand or automatically too > > > > > high -- > > > > > then good and important analysis and investigations are put > > > > > aside. > > > > > > > > > > THE FOCUS: > > > > > Twenty participants in the three-day workshop will explore > > > > > developing > > > > > statistical and other methodological tools suitable for > > > > > social > > > > > scientists, biomedical and behavioral researchers, > > > > > journalists and > > > > > other interested investigators to determine the veracity of > > > > > public > > > > > records databases. > > > > > -- Participants will learn how reporters and public > > > > > administrators > > > > > discovered, analyzed, verified and corrected public > > > > > databases. > > > > > -- Participants will learn how biomedical researchers, social > > > > > scientists and investigators from other disciplines cope with > > > > > the > > > > > record validation problem. > > > > > -- Participants, in small-group breakout sessions, will > > > > > develop > > > > > first-phase experimental strategies to ultimately measure the > > > > > validity > > > > > of databases. > > > > > -- The intent is to approach the problem of database veracity > > > > > at a > > > > > high theoretical/experimental level while constantly keeping > > > > > in mind > > > > > the pragmatic needs of analysts. > > > > > > > > > > THE PARTICIPANTS:: > > > > > By invitation based on proposals for submitted papers and > > > > > presentations. Eight to ten journalists with track records > > > > > of > > > > > high-concept involvement in analytic journalism and who have > > > > > demonstrated in-depth knowledge of database sciences will > > > > > participate. > > > > > An equal number of participants will be biomedical > > > > > researchers, > > > > > public administrators, data-mining experts, statisticians, > > > > > forensic > > > > > accountants, computer scientists and social scientists > > > > > interested in > > > > > the problem of database veracity. > > > > > > > > > > More detailed information found at: > > > > > > > > > > http://www.ver1point0.org/ > > > > > ________________________________ > > > > > > > > > > We look forward to your participation. > > > > > > > > > > -Tom Johnson > > > > > > > > > > ============================================== > > > > > Institute for Analytic Journalism > > > > > Santa Fe, NM USA > > > > > http://www.analyticjournalism.com > > > > > > > > > > Co-directors: > > > > > Steve Doig, J. T. Johnson, Steve Ross > > > > > ============================================== > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ============================================================ > > > > > FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv > > > > > Meets Fridays 9:30a-11:30 at ad hoc locations > > > > > Lecture schedule, archives, unsubscribe, etc.: > > > > > http://www.friam.org > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > Giles Bowkett = Giles Goat Boy > > > > http://www.gilesgoatboy.org/ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > > > > > > > Message: 2 > > > > Date: Tue, 13 Sep 2005 12:56:31 -0600 > > > > From: Giles Bowkett <gilesb at gmail.com> > > > > Subject: Re: [FRIAM] Ver 1.0 -- Workshop on database validity - > > > > CALL > > > > FOR PAPERS > > > > To: J T Johnson <tom at jtjohnson.com>, The Friday Morning > > > > Applied > > > > Complexity Coffee Group <Friam at redfish.com> > > > > Cc: "Friam at redfish. com" <friam at redfish.com> > > > > Message-ID: <2d81dedb05091311562db2770c at mail.gmail.com> > > > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 > > > > > > > > Hi all -- quick intro, I'm a Web developer, I discovered this > > > > list > > > > while in California/considering returning to Santa Fe, Steve G. > > > > told > > > > me about it, now I'm back in SFe, so I subbed and I've been > > > > lurking > > > > for a bit. > > > > > > > > Anyway, if this is going to be an actual physical conference, I > > > > just > > > > wanted to say that your dream keynote speaker might be David > > > > Brin. > > > > He's a sci-fi author with a doctoral degree in some kind of > > > > physics (I > > > > think) and he's written a nonfiction book called "The > > > > Transparent > > > > Society" (or something very similar). The basic idea is that > > > > the only > > > > way to ensure liberty and security and other basic common-good > > > > things > > > > is to expose these various databases and make them all entirely > > > > public, so that their data can be cross-checked very easily. Of > > > > course > > > > a lot of his book has to do with governmental databases, police > > > > surveillance video, and so on and so forth. I think the book > > > > was > > > > written before 9/11 but has only become more relevant since > > > > then. > > > > Obviously he'd have some great things to say if you managed to > > > > land > > > > him. > > > > > > > > > > > > On 9/12/05, J T Johnson <tom at jtjohnson.com> wrote: > > > > > > > > > All: > > > > > > > > > > This will be going to listservs in a week or two, but I > > > > > wanted to > > > > > extend a personal invitation to join us in Ver 1.0. Some of > > > > > the FRIAM > > > > > gang have already indicated their intent to participate, once > > > > > again > > > > > illustrating the quite amazing level of intellectual > > > > > resources we have > > > > > in the small town in the Southwest. > > > > > > > > > > We do hope you will consider preparing a paper because your > > > > > years of > > > > > experience and insights will be infinitely valuable in > > > > > breaking what > > > > > appears to be new ground > > > > > > > > > > See the attached for more details. > > > > > > > > > > -tom > > > > > > > > > > ---------------------------------------------------- > > > > > > > > > > CALL FOR PAPERS > > > > > > > > > > Ver 1.0 > > > > > A workshop on public database verification > > > > > for journalists and social scientists > > > > > > > > > > April 9-12, 2006 > > > > > Santa Fe, NM USA > > > > > > > > > > Sponsored by the Institute for Analytic Journalism > > > > > http://www.analyticjournalism.com > > > > > > > > > > THE CHALLENGE:: > > > > > An uncountable number of public agency databases have been > > > > > created in > > > > > the past 30 years. More and more, public and private > > > > > decision-makers > > > > > draw on this collected, digital data to make decisions about > > > > > everything from disciplining doctors to zoning decisions to > > > > > law > > > > > enforcement to deciding who gets to vote. The > > > > > often-unquestioned > > > > > assumption is that the data, as found, analyzed and presented > > > > > by a > > > > > government or quasi-government agency, is valid. > > > > > Increasingly, > > > > > anecdotal evidence indicates that data is riddled with > > > > > serious errors. > > > > > Often, if initial investigations indicate the data is too > > > > > suspect -- > > > > > and the cost to clean the data by hand or automatically too > > > > > high -- > > > > > then good and important analysis and investigations are put > > > > > aside. > > > > > > > > > > THE FOCUS: > > > > > Twenty participants in the three-day workshop will explore > > > > > developing > > > > > statistical and other methodological tools suitable for > > > > > social > > > > > scientists, biomedical and behavioral researchers, > > > > > journalists and > > > > > other interested investigators to determine the veracity of > > > > > public > > > > > records databases. > > > > > -- Participants will learn how reporters and public > > > > > administrators > > > > > discovered, analyzed, verified and corrected public > > > > > databases. > > > > > -- Participants will learn how biomedical researchers, social > > > > > scientists and investigators from other disciplines cope with > > > > > the > > > > > record validation problem. > > > > > -- Participants, in small-group breakout sessions, will > > > > > develop > > > > > first-phase experimental strategies to ultimately measure the > > > > > validity > > > > > of databases. > > > > > -- The intent is to approach the problem of database veracity > > > > > at a > > > > > high theoretical/experimental level while constantly keeping > > > > > in mind > > > > > the pragmatic needs of analysts. > > > > > > > > > > THE PARTICIPANTS:: > > > > > By invitation based on proposals for submitted papers and > > > > > presentations. Eight to ten journalists with track records > > > > > of > > > > > high-concept involvement in analytic journalism and who have > > > > > demonstrated in-depth knowledge of database sciences will > > > > > participate. > > > > > An equal number of participants will be biomedical > > > > > researchers, > > > > > public administrators, data-mining experts, statisticians, > > > > > forensic > > > > > accountants, computer scientists and social scientists > > > > > interested in > > > > > the problem of database veracity. > > > > > > > > > > More detailed information found at: > > > > > > > > > > http://www.ver1point0.org/ > > > > > ________________________________ > > > > > > > > > > We look forward to your participation. > > > > > > > > > > -Tom Johnson > > > > > > > > > > ============================================== > > > > > Institute for Analytic Journalism > > > > > Santa Fe, NM USA > > > > > http://www.analyticjournalism.com > > > > > > > > > > Co-directors: > > > > > Steve Doig, J. T. Johnson, Steve Ross > > > > > ============================================== > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ============================================================ > > > > > FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv > > > > > Meets Fridays 9:30a-11:30 at ad hoc locations > > > > > Lecture schedule, archives, unsubscribe, etc.: > > > > > http://www.friam.org > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > Giles Bowkett = Giles Goat Boy > > > > http://www.gilesgoatboy.org/ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > > > > > > > Message: 3 > > > > Date: Wed, 14 Sep 2005 08:39:27 -0600 > > > > From: Owen Densmore <owen at backspaces.net> > > > > Subject: [FRIAM] Signed Email > > > > To: The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Friam > > > > <friam at redfish.com> > > > > Message-ID: > > > > <F873A1DC-6A80-49B2-AC9B-5BF77E65A601 at backspaces.net> > > > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; > > > > format=flowed > > > > > > > > I'm considering use of secure email: encrypted/decrypted with > > > > public > > > > key crypto. Do many folks do this? I'd be interested to here > > > > their > > > > experiences. > > > > > > > > -- Owen > > > > > > > > Owen Densmore - http://backspaces.net - http://redfish.com - > > > > http:// > > > > friam.org > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > > > > > > > Message: 4 > > > > Date: Wed, 14 Sep 2005 09:44:25 -0600 > > > > From: Tim Densmore <tim at backspaces.net> > > > > Subject: Re: [FRIAM] Signed Email > > > > To: The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group > > > > <Friam at redfish.com> > > > > Message-ID: <b8e462829f6789f4886792b63732c70d at backspaces.net> > > > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed > > > > > > > > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > > > > Hash: SHA1 > > > > > > > > Actually encrypting the mail, or just digitally signing it? > > > > Either > > > > way, look at GPGMail - it's a 3rd party add-on for mail.app > > > > that I > > > > found easy to install and very user friendly. Not sure it > > > > works with > > > > tiger yet though... > > > > > > > > http://www.sente.ch/software/GPGMail/ > > > > > > > > Thank you, > > > > Tim Densmore > > > > > > > > - -------------------------- > > > > > > > > "Linux could drink FreeBSD under the table." > > > > > > > > - -Unknown Internet Source > > > > On Sep 14, 2005, at 8:39 AM, Owen Densmore wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > I'm considering use of secure email: encrypted/decrypted with > > > > > public > > > > > key crypto. Do many folks do this? I'd be interested to > > > > > here their > > > > > experiences. > > > > > > > > > > -- Owen > > > > > > > > > > Owen Densmore - http://backspaces.net - http://redfish.com - > > > > > http:// > > > > > friam.org > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ============================================================ > > > > > FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv > > > > > Meets Fridays 9:30a-11:30 at ad hoc locations > > > > > Lecture schedule, archives, unsubscribe, etc.: > > > > > http://www.friam.org > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- > > > > Version: GnuPG v1.2.4 (Darwin) > > > > > > > > > > > > iD8DBQFDKEVZyzaSrjSqatARArGTAJ9oJ4r3SYhFhCTziCHB8wHP1tM4vwCdH0Nf > > > > > > > > QaYvuocx3Zd4ok66Sbxze6U= > > > > =f9YS > > > > -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > > > > > > > Message: 5 > > > > Date: Wed, 14 Sep 2005 09:50:15 -0600 > > > > From: Owen Densmore <owen at backspaces.net> > > > > Subject: Re: [FRIAM] Signed Email > > > > To: The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group > > > > <Friam at redfish.com> > > > > Message-ID: > > > > <7FBD0461-8D01-47E6-B576-A970C0113118 at backspaces.net> > > > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; > > > > format=flowed > > > > > > > > On Sep 14, 2005, at 9:44 AM, Tim Densmore wrote: > > > > > > > > > Actually encrypting the mail, or just digitally signing it? > > > > > > > > > > > > > Good point. I suppose the high order bit is simply digitally > > > > signing > > > > it so that it insures the mail is from me. Authentication vs > > > > Privacy. > > > > > > > > > > > > > Either > > > > > way, look at GPGMail - it's a 3rd party add-on for mail.app > > > > > that I > > > > > found easy to install and very user friendly. Not sure it > > > > > works with > > > > > tiger yet though... > > > > > > > > > > http://www.sente.ch/software/GPGMail/ > > > > > > > > > > > > > I'll check it out. > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thank you, > > > > > Tim Densmore > > > > > > > > > > - -------------------------- > > > > > > > > > > "Linux could drink FreeBSD under the table." > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- Owen > > > > > > > > Owen Densmore - http://backspaces.net - http://redfish.com - > > > > http:// > > > > friam.org > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > Friam mailing list > > > > Friam at redfish.com > > > > http://redfish.com/mailman/listinfo/friam_redfish.com > > > > > > > > > > > > End of Friam Digest, Vol 27, Issue 13 > > > > ************************************* > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ============================================================ > > > FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv > > > Meets Fridays 9:30a-11:30 at ad hoc locations > > > Lecture schedule, archives, unsubscribe, etc.: > > > http://www.friam.org > > > > > > > -- > > *PS: A number of people ask me about the attachment to my email, > > which > > is of type "application/pgp-signature". Don't worry, it is not a > > virus. It is an electronic signature, that may be used to verify > > this > > email came from me if you have PGP or GPG installed. Otherwise, you > > may safely ignore this attachment. > > > > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > A/Prof Russell Standish Phone 8308 3119 (mobile) > > Mathematics 0425 253119 (") > > UNSW SYDNEY 2052 R.Standish at unsw.edu.au > > > > Australia > > http://parallel.hpc.unsw.edu.au/rks > > International prefix +612, Interstate prefix 02 > > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > > > ============================================================ > > FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv > > Meets Fridays 9:30a-11:30 at ad hoc locations > > Lecture schedule, archives, unsubscribe, etc.: > > http://www.friam.org > > > > > ============================================================ > FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv > Meets Fridays 9:30a-11:30 at ad hoc locations > Lecture schedule, archives, unsubscribe, etc.: > http://www.friam.org -- *PS: A number of people ask me about the attachment to my email, which is of type "application/pgp-signature". Don't worry, it is not a virus. It is an electronic signature, that may be used to verify this email came from me if you have PGP or GPG installed. Otherwise, you may safely ignore this attachment. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- A/Prof Russell Standish Phone 8308 3119 (mobile) Mathematics 0425 253119 (") UNSW SYDNEY 2052 R.Standish at unsw.edu.au Australia http://parallel.hpc.unsw.edu.au/rks International prefix +612, Interstate prefix 02 ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- |
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Clearly. Again, I'd state that 9/10ths of what people receive that is
"spoofed" email is virus borne, not actual identity theft. The remainder is very serious criminal behavior. Thank you, Tim Densmore -------------------------- "Linux could drink FreeBSD under the table." -Unknown Internet Source On Sep 15, 2005, at 5:55 PM, Russell Standish wrote: > We're talking about different things - I often get email from "myself" > advertising cheap pills or the latest get rich quick scheme in > Africa. Since I don't live in Nigeria, nor am I in pharmaceuticals, it > is clear this is not spoofing my identity. Everyone who has been on > the internet longer than a couple of hours knows that the email sender > field is practically worthless. > > What signed emails aim to do is prevent a rarer, but potentially more > serious form of spoofing - someone claiming to be me, but > misrepresenting me, for whatever nefarious purpose. So I sign my email > with GPG, which allows anyone to check (if they know my GPG public > key) that I did indeed send the email. > > If the email is not signed, I can deny I sent the email, and you will > have to take my denial on face value, since we all know about send > field spoofing. > > Cheers > > On Thu, Sep 15, 2005 at 05:29:55PM -0600, Tim Densmore wrote: >> 9/10ths of this "spoofing" is virus-sent mail, sent from an infected >> host computer, using the infected host's addy book as an attack >> vector. >> I suspect that if you look at the headers of the email in question, >> you'll see quite plainly that the email came from elsewhere. Without >> getting on an anti-Windows rant I'd like to ask that anyone reading >> this please consider this sort of thing when you purchase your next >> computer (not Nick in particular, of course, but everyone) -- there >> are >> alternatives. >> >> Thank you, >> Tim Densmore >> >> -------------------------- >> >> "Shared pain is lessened, shared joy is increased; thus do we refute >> entropy." >> --Spider Robinson >> On Sep 15, 2005, at 4:37 PM, Russell Standish wrote: >> >> >>> I've heard of a few people being spoofed in the open source world, >>> which can get a bit "catty". I've never heard of scientists being >>> spoofed, partly because it seems hard to do convincingly without >>> being >>> a fellow scientist, and then what is the point? >>> >>> Cheers >>> >>> On Thu, Sep 15, 2005 at 11:33:44AM -0600, Nicholas Thompson wrote: >>> >>>> Owen, >>>> >>>> So far as I know, you are the only person I have ever known who >>>> has been >>>> spoofed, in the sense that you are the only person I have ever >>>> received an >>>> email message FROM who did not send it. >>>> >>>> But then it occurs to me, that perhaps you have been receiving >>>> messags from me that I never sent. Have you ever gotten any >>>> strange email >>>> messages with my name on them? Say, about weather, or the second >>>> law of >>>> thermodynamics.. Or about spoofing, for that matter? >>>> >>>> If so, let me know. >>>> >>>> Nick >>>> >>>> Nicholas S. Thompson >>>> Professor of Psychology and Ethology >>>> Clark University >>>> nickthompson at earthlink.net >>>> http://home.earthlink.net/~nickthompson/ >>>> nthompson at clarku.edu >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>> [Original Message] >>>>> From: <Friam-request at redfish.com> >>>>> To: <Friam at redfish.com> >>>>> Date: 9/14/2005 10:00:31 AM >>>>> Subject: Friam Digest, Vol 27, Issue 13 >>>>> >>>>> Send Friam mailing list submissions to >>>>> Friam at redfish.com >>>>> >>>>> To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit >>>>> http://redfish.com/mailman/listinfo/friam_redfish.com >>>>> or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to >>>>> Friam-request at redfish.com >>>>> >>>>> You can reach the person managing the list at >>>>> Friam-owner at redfish.com >>>>> >>>>> When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more >>>>> specific >>>>> than "Re: Contents of Friam digest..." >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Today's Topics: >>>>> >>>>> 1. Re: Ver 1.0 -- Workshop on database validity - CALL FOR >>>>> PAPERS (Giles Bowkett) >>>>> 2. Re: Ver 1.0 -- Workshop on database validity - CALL FOR >>>>> PAPERS (Giles Bowkett) >>>>> 3. Signed Email (Owen Densmore) >>>>> 4. Re: Signed Email (Tim Densmore) >>>>> 5. Re: Signed Email (Owen Densmore) >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> ------------------------------------------------------------------- >>>>> --- >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Message: 1 >>>>> Date: Tue, 13 Sep 2005 12:56:31 -0600 >>>>> From: Giles Bowkett <gilesb at gmail.com> >>>>> Subject: Re: [FRIAM] Ver 1.0 -- Workshop on database validity - >>>>> CALL >>>>> FOR PAPERS >>>>> To: J T Johnson <tom at jtjohnson.com>, The Friday Morning >>>>> Applied >>>>> Complexity Coffee Group <Friam at redfish.com> >>>>> Cc: "Friam at redfish. com" <friam at redfish.com> >>>>> Message-ID: <2d81dedb05091311562db2770c at mail.gmail.com> >>>>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 >>>>> >>>>> Hi all -- quick intro, I'm a Web developer, I discovered this >>>>> list >>>>> while in California/considering returning to Santa Fe, Steve G. >>>>> told >>>>> me about it, now I'm back in SFe, so I subbed and I've been >>>>> lurking >>>>> for a bit. >>>>> >>>>> Anyway, if this is going to be an actual physical conference, I >>>>> just >>>>> wanted to say that your dream keynote speaker might be David >>>>> Brin. >>>>> He's a sci-fi author with a doctoral degree in some kind of >>>>> physics (I >>>>> think) and he's written a nonfiction book called "The >>>>> Transparent >>>>> Society" (or something very similar). The basic idea is that >>>>> the only >>>>> way to ensure liberty and security and other basic common-good >>>>> things >>>>> is to expose these various databases and make them all entirely >>>>> public, so that their data can be cross-checked very easily. Of >>>>> course >>>>> a lot of his book has to do with governmental databases, police >>>>> surveillance video, and so on and so forth. I think the book >>>>> was >>>>> written before 9/11 but has only become more relevant since >>>>> then. >>>>> Obviously he'd have some great things to say if you managed to >>>>> land >>>>> him. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On 9/12/05, J T Johnson <tom at jtjohnson.com> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> All: >>>>>> >>>>>> This will be going to listservs in a week or two, but I >>>>>> wanted to >>>>>> extend a personal invitation to join us in Ver 1.0. Some of >>>>>> the FRIAM >>>>>> gang have already indicated their intent to participate, once >>>>>> again >>>>>> illustrating the quite amazing level of intellectual >>>>>> resources we have >>>>>> in the small town in the Southwest. >>>>>> >>>>>> We do hope you will consider preparing a paper because your >>>>>> years of >>>>>> experience and insights will be infinitely valuable in >>>>>> breaking what >>>>>> appears to be new ground >>>>>> >>>>>> See the attached for more details. >>>>>> >>>>>> -tom >>>>>> >>>>>> ---------------------------------------------------- >>>>>> >>>>>> CALL FOR PAPERS >>>>>> >>>>>> Ver 1.0 >>>>>> A workshop on public database verification >>>>>> for journalists and social scientists >>>>>> >>>>>> April 9-12, 2006 >>>>>> Santa Fe, NM USA >>>>>> >>>>>> Sponsored by the Institute for Analytic Journalism >>>>>> http://www.analyticjournalism.com >>>>>> >>>>>> THE CHALLENGE:: >>>>>> An uncountable number of public agency databases have been >>>>>> created in >>>>>> the past 30 years. More and more, public and private >>>>>> decision-makers >>>>>> draw on this collected, digital data to make decisions about >>>>>> everything from disciplining doctors to zoning decisions to >>>>>> law >>>>>> enforcement to deciding who gets to vote. The >>>>>> often-unquestioned >>>>>> assumption is that the data, as found, analyzed and presented >>>>>> by a >>>>>> government or quasi-government agency, is valid. >>>>>> Increasingly, >>>>>> anecdotal evidence indicates that data is riddled with >>>>>> serious errors. >>>>>> Often, if initial investigations indicate the data is too >>>>>> suspect -- >>>>>> and the cost to clean the data by hand or automatically too >>>>>> high -- >>>>>> then good and important analysis and investigations are put >>>>>> aside. >>>>>> >>>>>> THE FOCUS: >>>>>> Twenty participants in the three-day workshop will explore >>>>>> developing >>>>>> statistical and other methodological tools suitable for >>>>>> social >>>>>> scientists, biomedical and behavioral researchers, >>>>>> journalists and >>>>>> other interested investigators to determine the veracity of >>>>>> public >>>>>> records databases. >>>>>> -- Participants will learn how reporters and public >>>>>> administrators >>>>>> discovered, analyzed, verified and corrected public >>>>>> databases. >>>>>> -- Participants will learn how biomedical researchers, social >>>>>> scientists and investigators from other disciplines cope with >>>>>> the >>>>>> record validation problem. >>>>>> -- Participants, in small-group breakout sessions, will >>>>>> develop >>>>>> first-phase experimental strategies to ultimately measure the >>>>>> validity >>>>>> of databases. >>>>>> -- The intent is to approach the problem of database veracity >>>>>> at a >>>>>> high theoretical/experimental level while constantly keeping >>>>>> in mind >>>>>> the pragmatic needs of analysts. >>>>>> >>>>>> THE PARTICIPANTS:: >>>>>> By invitation based on proposals for submitted papers and >>>>>> presentations. Eight to ten journalists with track records >>>>>> of >>>>>> high-concept involvement in analytic journalism and who have >>>>>> demonstrated in-depth knowledge of database sciences will >>>>>> participate. >>>>>> An equal number of participants will be biomedical >>>>>> researchers, >>>>>> public administrators, data-mining experts, statisticians, >>>>>> forensic >>>>>> accountants, computer scientists and social scientists >>>>>> interested in >>>>>> the problem of database veracity. >>>>>> >>>>>> More detailed information found at: >>>>>> >>>>>> http://www.ver1point0.org/ >>>>>> ________________________________ >>>>>> >>>>>> We look forward to your participation. >>>>>> >>>>>> -Tom Johnson >>>>>> >>>>>> ============================================== >>>>>> Institute for Analytic Journalism >>>>>> Santa Fe, NM USA >>>>>> http://www.analyticjournalism.com >>>>>> >>>>>> Co-directors: >>>>>> Steve Doig, J. T. Johnson, Steve Ross >>>>>> ============================================== >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> ============================================================ >>>>>> FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv >>>>>> Meets Fridays 9:30a-11:30 at ad hoc locations >>>>>> Lecture schedule, archives, unsubscribe, etc.: >>>>>> http://www.friam.org >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> Giles Bowkett = Giles Goat Boy >>>>> http://www.gilesgoatboy.org/ >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> ------------------------------ >>>>> >>>>> Message: 2 >>>>> Date: Tue, 13 Sep 2005 12:56:31 -0600 >>>>> From: Giles Bowkett <gilesb at gmail.com> >>>>> Subject: Re: [FRIAM] Ver 1.0 -- Workshop on database validity - >>>>> CALL >>>>> FOR PAPERS >>>>> To: J T Johnson <tom at jtjohnson.com>, The Friday Morning >>>>> Applied >>>>> Complexity Coffee Group <Friam at redfish.com> >>>>> Cc: "Friam at redfish. com" <friam at redfish.com> >>>>> Message-ID: <2d81dedb05091311562db2770c at mail.gmail.com> >>>>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 >>>>> >>>>> Hi all -- quick intro, I'm a Web developer, I discovered this >>>>> list >>>>> while in California/considering returning to Santa Fe, Steve G. >>>>> told >>>>> me about it, now I'm back in SFe, so I subbed and I've been >>>>> lurking >>>>> for a bit. >>>>> >>>>> Anyway, if this is going to be an actual physical conference, I >>>>> just >>>>> wanted to say that your dream keynote speaker might be David >>>>> Brin. >>>>> He's a sci-fi author with a doctoral degree in some kind of >>>>> physics (I >>>>> think) and he's written a nonfiction book called "The >>>>> Transparent >>>>> Society" (or something very similar). The basic idea is that >>>>> the only >>>>> way to ensure liberty and security and other basic common-good >>>>> things >>>>> is to expose these various databases and make them all entirely >>>>> public, so that their data can be cross-checked very easily. Of >>>>> course >>>>> a lot of his book has to do with governmental databases, police >>>>> surveillance video, and so on and so forth. I think the book >>>>> was >>>>> written before 9/11 but has only become more relevant since >>>>> then. >>>>> Obviously he'd have some great things to say if you managed to >>>>> land >>>>> him. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On 9/12/05, J T Johnson <tom at jtjohnson.com> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> All: >>>>>> >>>>>> This will be going to listservs in a week or two, but I >>>>>> wanted to >>>>>> extend a personal invitation to join us in Ver 1.0. Some of >>>>>> the FRIAM >>>>>> gang have already indicated their intent to participate, once >>>>>> again >>>>>> illustrating the quite amazing level of intellectual >>>>>> resources we have >>>>>> in the small town in the Southwest. >>>>>> >>>>>> We do hope you will consider preparing a paper because your >>>>>> years of >>>>>> experience and insights will be infinitely valuable in >>>>>> breaking what >>>>>> appears to be new ground >>>>>> >>>>>> See the attached for more details. >>>>>> >>>>>> -tom >>>>>> >>>>>> ---------------------------------------------------- >>>>>> >>>>>> CALL FOR PAPERS >>>>>> >>>>>> Ver 1.0 >>>>>> A workshop on public database verification >>>>>> for journalists and social scientists >>>>>> >>>>>> April 9-12, 2006 >>>>>> Santa Fe, NM USA >>>>>> >>>>>> Sponsored by the Institute for Analytic Journalism >>>>>> http://www.analyticjournalism.com >>>>>> >>>>>> THE CHALLENGE:: >>>>>> An uncountable number of public agency databases have been >>>>>> created in >>>>>> the past 30 years. More and more, public and private >>>>>> decision-makers >>>>>> draw on this collected, digital data to make decisions about >>>>>> everything from disciplining doctors to zoning decisions to >>>>>> law >>>>>> enforcement to deciding who gets to vote. The >>>>>> often-unquestioned >>>>>> assumption is that the data, as found, analyzed and presented >>>>>> by a >>>>>> government or quasi-government agency, is valid. >>>>>> Increasingly, >>>>>> anecdotal evidence indicates that data is riddled with >>>>>> serious errors. >>>>>> Often, if initial investigations indicate the data is too >>>>>> suspect -- >>>>>> and the cost to clean the data by hand or automatically too >>>>>> high -- >>>>>> then good and important analysis and investigations are put >>>>>> aside. >>>>>> >>>>>> THE FOCUS: >>>>>> Twenty participants in the three-day workshop will explore >>>>>> developing >>>>>> statistical and other methodological tools suitable for >>>>>> social >>>>>> scientists, biomedical and behavioral researchers, >>>>>> journalists and >>>>>> other interested investigators to determine the veracity of >>>>>> public >>>>>> records databases. >>>>>> -- Participants will learn how reporters and public >>>>>> administrators >>>>>> discovered, analyzed, verified and corrected public >>>>>> databases. >>>>>> -- Participants will learn how biomedical researchers, social >>>>>> scientists and investigators from other disciplines cope with >>>>>> the >>>>>> record validation problem. >>>>>> -- Participants, in small-group breakout sessions, will >>>>>> develop >>>>>> first-phase experimental strategies to ultimately measure the >>>>>> validity >>>>>> of databases. >>>>>> -- The intent is to approach the problem of database veracity >>>>>> at a >>>>>> high theoretical/experimental level while constantly keeping >>>>>> in mind >>>>>> the pragmatic needs of analysts. >>>>>> >>>>>> THE PARTICIPANTS:: >>>>>> By invitation based on proposals for submitted papers and >>>>>> presentations. Eight to ten journalists with track records >>>>>> of >>>>>> high-concept involvement in analytic journalism and who have >>>>>> demonstrated in-depth knowledge of database sciences will >>>>>> participate. >>>>>> An equal number of participants will be biomedical >>>>>> researchers, >>>>>> public administrators, data-mining experts, statisticians, >>>>>> forensic >>>>>> accountants, computer scientists and social scientists >>>>>> interested in >>>>>> the problem of database veracity. >>>>>> >>>>>> More detailed information found at: >>>>>> >>>>>> http://www.ver1point0.org/ >>>>>> ________________________________ >>>>>> >>>>>> We look forward to your participation. >>>>>> >>>>>> -Tom Johnson >>>>>> >>>>>> ============================================== >>>>>> Institute for Analytic Journalism >>>>>> Santa Fe, NM USA >>>>>> http://www.analyticjournalism.com >>>>>> >>>>>> Co-directors: >>>>>> Steve Doig, J. T. Johnson, Steve Ross >>>>>> ============================================== >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> ============================================================ >>>>>> FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv >>>>>> Meets Fridays 9:30a-11:30 at ad hoc locations >>>>>> Lecture schedule, archives, unsubscribe, etc.: >>>>>> http://www.friam.org >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> Giles Bowkett = Giles Goat Boy >>>>> http://www.gilesgoatboy.org/ >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> ------------------------------ >>>>> >>>>> Message: 3 >>>>> Date: Wed, 14 Sep 2005 08:39:27 -0600 >>>>> From: Owen Densmore <owen at backspaces.net> >>>>> Subject: [FRIAM] Signed Email >>>>> To: The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Friam >>>>> <friam at redfish.com> >>>>> Message-ID: >>>>> <F873A1DC-6A80-49B2-AC9B-5BF77E65A601 at backspaces.net> >>>>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; >>>>> format=flowed >>>>> >>>>> I'm considering use of secure email: encrypted/decrypted with >>>>> public >>>>> key crypto. Do many folks do this? I'd be interested to here >>>>> their >>>>> experiences. >>>>> >>>>> -- Owen >>>>> >>>>> Owen Densmore - http://backspaces.net - http://redfish.com - >>>>> http:// >>>>> friam.org >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> ------------------------------ >>>>> >>>>> Message: 4 >>>>> Date: Wed, 14 Sep 2005 09:44:25 -0600 >>>>> From: Tim Densmore <tim at backspaces.net> >>>>> Subject: Re: [FRIAM] Signed Email >>>>> To: The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group >>>>> <Friam at redfish.com> >>>>> Message-ID: <b8e462829f6789f4886792b63732c70d at backspaces.net> >>>>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed >>>>> >>>>> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- >>>>> Hash: SHA1 >>>>> >>>>> Actually encrypting the mail, or just digitally signing it? >>>>> Either >>>>> way, look at GPGMail - it's a 3rd party add-on for mail.app >>>>> that I >>>>> found easy to install and very user friendly. Not sure it >>>>> works with >>>>> tiger yet though... >>>>> >>>>> http://www.sente.ch/software/GPGMail/ >>>>> >>>>> Thank you, >>>>> Tim Densmore >>>>> >>>>> - -------------------------- >>>>> >>>>> "Linux could drink FreeBSD under the table." >>>>> >>>>> - -Unknown Internet Source >>>>> On Sep 14, 2005, at 8:39 AM, Owen Densmore wrote: >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> I'm considering use of secure email: encrypted/decrypted with >>>>>> public >>>>>> key crypto. Do many folks do this? I'd be interested to >>>>>> here their >>>>>> experiences. >>>>>> >>>>>> -- Owen >>>>>> >>>>>> Owen Densmore - http://backspaces.net - http://redfish.com - >>>>>> http:// >>>>>> friam.org >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> ============================================================ >>>>>> FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv >>>>>> Meets Fridays 9:30a-11:30 at ad hoc locations >>>>>> Lecture schedule, archives, unsubscribe, etc.: >>>>>> http://www.friam.org >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- >>>>> Version: GnuPG v1.2.4 (Darwin) >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> iD8DBQFDKEVZyzaSrjSqatARArGTAJ9oJ4r3SYhFhCTziCHB8wHP1tM4vwCdH0Nf >>>>> >>>>> QaYvuocx3Zd4ok66Sbxze6U= >>>>> =f9YS >>>>> -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> ------------------------------ >>>>> >>>>> Message: 5 >>>>> Date: Wed, 14 Sep 2005 09:50:15 -0600 >>>>> From: Owen Densmore <owen at backspaces.net> >>>>> Subject: Re: [FRIAM] Signed Email >>>>> To: The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group >>>>> <Friam at redfish.com> >>>>> Message-ID: >>>>> <7FBD0461-8D01-47E6-B576-A970C0113118 at backspaces.net> >>>>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; >>>>> format=flowed >>>>> >>>>> On Sep 14, 2005, at 9:44 AM, Tim Densmore wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Actually encrypting the mail, or just digitally signing it? >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Good point. I suppose the high order bit is simply digitally >>>>> signing >>>>> it so that it insures the mail is from me. Authentication vs >>>>> Privacy. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> Either >>>>>> way, look at GPGMail - it's a 3rd party add-on for mail.app >>>>>> that I >>>>>> found easy to install and very user friendly. Not sure it >>>>>> works with >>>>>> tiger yet though... >>>>>> >>>>>> http://www.sente.ch/software/GPGMail/ >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> I'll check it out. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> Thank you, >>>>>> Tim Densmore >>>>>> >>>>>> - -------------------------- >>>>>> >>>>>> "Linux could drink FreeBSD under the table." >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> -- Owen >>>>> >>>>> Owen Densmore - http://backspaces.net - http://redfish.com - >>>>> http:// >>>>> friam.org >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> ------------------------------ >>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> Friam mailing list >>>>> Friam at redfish.com >>>>> http://redfish.com/mailman/listinfo/friam_redfish.com >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> End of Friam Digest, Vol 27, Issue 13 >>>>> ************************************* >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> ============================================================ >>>> FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv >>>> Meets Fridays 9:30a-11:30 at ad hoc locations >>>> Lecture schedule, archives, unsubscribe, etc.: >>>> http://www.friam.org >>>> >>> >>> -- >>> *PS: A number of people ask me about the attachment to my email, >>> which >>> is of type "application/pgp-signature". Don't worry, it is not a >>> virus. It is an electronic signature, that may be used to verify >>> this >>> email came from me if you have PGP or GPG installed. Otherwise, you >>> may safely ignore this attachment. >>> >>> >>> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >>> ------- >>> >>> A/Prof Russell Standish Phone 8308 3119 (mobile) >>> Mathematics 0425 253119 (") >>> UNSW SYDNEY 2052 R.Standish at unsw.edu.au >>> >>> Australia >>> http://parallel.hpc.unsw.edu.au/rks >>> International prefix +612, Interstate prefix 02 >>> >>> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >>> ------- >>> >>> >>> ============================================================ >>> FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv >>> Meets Fridays 9:30a-11:30 at ad hoc locations >>> Lecture schedule, archives, unsubscribe, etc.: >>> http://www.friam.org >>> >> >> > >> ============================================================ >> FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv >> Meets Fridays 9:30a-11:30 at ad hoc locations >> Lecture schedule, archives, unsubscribe, etc.: >> http://www.friam.org > > -- > *PS: A number of people ask me about the attachment to my email, which > is of type "application/pgp-signature". Don't worry, it is not a > virus. It is an electronic signature, that may be used to verify this > email came from me if you have PGP or GPG installed. Otherwise, you > may safely ignore this attachment. > > ----------------------------------------------------------------------- > ----- > A/Prof Russell Standish Phone 8308 3119 (mobile) > Mathematics 0425 253119 (") > UNSW SYDNEY 2052 R.Standish at unsw.edu.au > Australia > http://parallel.hpc.unsw.edu.au/rks > International prefix +612, Interstate prefix 02 > ----------------------------------------------------------------------- > ----- > > ============================================================ > FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv > Meets Fridays 9:30a-11:30 at ad hoc locations > Lecture schedule, archives, unsubscribe, etc.: > http://www.friam.org |
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