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Jochen Fromm-5

Shakira and Plato

Shakira says she has finished a Coursera course about "Ancient Philosophy - Plato and his Predecessors". If Shakira can do it, we can too ;-)

https://twitter.com/shakira/status/1253351137866104834

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Frank Wimberly-2

Re: Shakira and Plato

I took that course in the summer between my sophomore and junior years at Berkeley. Philosophy 20A the pre-Socratics. I still have some of the textbooks.

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On Thu, Apr 23, 2020, 11:35 PM Jochen Fromm <[hidden email]> wrote:

Shakira says she has finished a Coursera course about "Ancient Philosophy - Plato and his Predecessors". If Shakira can do it, we can too ;-)
https://twitter.com/shakira/status/1253351137866104834

-J.
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Angel Edward

Re: Shakira and Plato

Shakira was smart enough to take belly dancing and singing first. I think she also studied CS. Missed your chance Frank.

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Ed Angel

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Professor Emeritus of Computer Science, University of New Mexico

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On Apr 24, 2020, at 12:47 PM, Frank Wimberly <[hidden email]> wrote:

I took that course in the summer between my sophomore and junior years at Berkeley. Philosophy 20A the pre-Socratics. I still have some of the textbooks.

---
Frank C. Wimberly
140 Calle Ojo Feliz,
Santa Fe, NM 87505
505 670-9918
Santa Fe, NM

On Thu, Apr 23, 2020, 11:35 PM Jochen Fromm <[hidden email]> wrote:
Shakira says she has finished a Coursera course about "Ancient Philosophy - Plato and his Predecessors". If Shakira can do it, we can too ;-)
https://twitter.com/shakira/status/1253351137866104834

-J.
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Frank Wimberly-2

Re: Shakira and Plato

What? To date Shakira? After her halftime performance at the Superbowl I almost feel like I did.

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Frank C. Wimberly
140 Calle Ojo Feliz,
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505 670-9918
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On Fri, Apr 24, 2020, 12:51 PM Angel Edward <[hidden email]> wrote:

Shakira was smart enough to take belly dancing and singing first. I think she also studied CS. Missed your chance Frank.

Ed

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Ed Angel

Founding Director, Art, Research, Technology and Science Laboratory (ARTS Lab)
Professor Emeritus of Computer Science, University of New Mexico

1017 Sierra Pinon
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505-984-0136 (home) [hidden email]
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On Apr 24, 2020, at 12:47 PM, Frank Wimberly <[hidden email]> wrote:

I took that course in the summer between my sophomore and junior years at Berkeley. Philosophy 20A the pre-Socratics. I still have some of the textbooks.

---
Frank C. Wimberly
140 Calle Ojo Feliz,
Santa Fe, NM 87505
505 670-9918
Santa Fe, NM

On Thu, Apr 23, 2020, 11:35 PM Jochen Fromm <[hidden email]> wrote:
Shakira says she has finished a Coursera course about "Ancient Philosophy - Plato and his Predecessors". If Shakira can do it, we can too ;-)
https://twitter.com/shakira/status/1253351137866104834

-J.
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Marcus G. Daniels

Re: Shakira and Plato

Incidentally, I have been on e-mail threads like this where someone on the list (who may have been imported on the fly) shames the correspondents, or even punishes them, for not being inclusive. That said, I’ve seen interviews with Shakira and it became clear to me she is a reductionist when it comes to what is sexy, which as far as I am concerned is not sexy at all.

From: Friam <[hidden email]> on behalf of Frank Wimberly <[hidden email]>
Reply-To: The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group <[hidden email]>
Date: Friday, April 24, 2020 at 11:54 AM
To: The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group <[hidden email]>
Subject: Re: [FRIAM] Shakira and Plato

What? To date Shakira? After her halftime performance at the Superbowl I almost feel like I did.

---
Frank C. Wimberly
140 Calle Ojo Feliz,
Santa Fe, NM 87505
505 670-9918
Santa Fe, NM

On Fri, Apr 24, 2020, 12:51 PM Angel Edward <[hidden email]> wrote:

Shakira was smart enough to take belly dancing and singing first. I think she also studied CS. Missed your chance Frank.

Ed

__________

Ed Angel

Founding Director, Art, Research, Technology and Science Laboratory (ARTS Lab)
Professor Emeritus of Computer Science, University of New Mexico

1017 Sierra Pinon
Santa Fe, NM 87501
505-984-0136 (home) [hidden email]
505-453-4944 (cell) http://www.cs.unm.edu/~angel

On Apr 24, 2020, at 12:47 PM, Frank Wimberly <[hidden email]> wrote:

I took that course in the summer between my sophomore and junior years at Berkeley. Philosophy 20A the pre-Socratics. I still have some of the textbooks.

---
Frank C. Wimberly
140 Calle Ojo Feliz,
Santa Fe, NM 87505
505 670-9918
Santa Fe, NM

On Thu, Apr 23, 2020, 11:35 PM Jochen Fromm <[hidden email]> wrote:

Shakira says she has finished a Coursera course about "Ancient Philosophy - Plato and his Predecessors". If Shakira can do it, we can too ;-)

https://twitter.com/shakira/status/1253351137866104834

-J.

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Prof David West

Re: Shakira and Plato

In reply to this post by Frank Wimberly-2

have no idea why - but this conversation made me think of Kareem Abdul Jabbar and three of his books: The two about Mycroft and Sherlock (with Anna Waterhouse) and his Writings on the Wall. Enjoyed all of them thoroughly.

davew

On Fri, Apr 24, 2020, at 12:47 PM, Frank Wimberly wrote:

I took that course in the summer between my sophomore and junior years at Berkeley. Philosophy 20A the pre-Socratics. I still have some of the textbooks.

---
Frank C. Wimberly
140 Calle Ojo Feliz,
Santa Fe, NM 87505
505 670-9918
Santa Fe, NM

On Thu, Apr 23, 2020, 11:35 PM Jochen Fromm <[hidden email]> wrote:
Shakira says she has finished a Coursera course about "Ancient Philosophy - Plato and his Predecessors". If Shakira can do it, we can too ;-)
https://twitter.com/shakira/status/1253351137866104834

-J.
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Frank Wimberly-2

Re: Shakira and Plato

In reply to this post by Marcus G. Daniels

"Reductionist" is a good way to put it. I was just talking in the Friam meeting about part-object relationships.

On Fri, Apr 24, 2020 at 1:00 PM Marcus Daniels <[hidden email]> wrote:

Incidentally, I have been on e-mail threads like this where someone on the list (who may have been imported on the fly) shames the correspondents, or even punishes them, for not being inclusive. That said, I’ve seen interviews with Shakira and it became clear to me she is a reductionist when it comes to what is sexy, which as far as I am concerned is not sexy at all.

From: Friam <[hidden email]> on behalf of Frank Wimberly <[hidden email]>
Reply-To: The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group <[hidden email]>
Date: Friday, April 24, 2020 at 11:54 AM
To: The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group <[hidden email]>
Subject: Re: [FRIAM] Shakira and Plato

What? To date Shakira? After her halftime performance at the Superbowl I almost feel like I did.

---
Frank C. Wimberly
140 Calle Ojo Feliz,
Santa Fe, NM 87505
505 670-9918
Santa Fe, NM

On Fri, Apr 24, 2020, 12:51 PM Angel Edward <[hidden email]> wrote:

Shakira was smart enough to take belly dancing and singing first. I think she also studied CS. Missed your chance Frank.

Ed

__________

Ed Angel

Founding Director, Art, Research, Technology and Science Laboratory (ARTS Lab)
Professor Emeritus of Computer Science, University of New Mexico

1017 Sierra Pinon
Santa Fe, NM 87501
505-984-0136 (home) [hidden email]
505-453-4944 (cell) http://www.cs.unm.edu/~angel

On Apr 24, 2020, at 12:47 PM, Frank Wimberly <[hidden email]> wrote:

I took that course in the summer between my sophomore and junior years at Berkeley. Philosophy 20A the pre-Socratics. I still have some of the textbooks.

---
Frank C. Wimberly
140 Calle Ojo Feliz,
Santa Fe, NM 87505
505 670-9918
Santa Fe, NM

On Thu, Apr 23, 2020, 11:35 PM Jochen Fromm <[hidden email]> wrote:

Shakira says she has finished a Coursera course about "Ancient Philosophy - Plato and his Predecessors". If Shakira can do it, we can too ;-)

https://twitter.com/shakira/status/1253351137866104834

-J.

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Frank Wimberly
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Edward Angel

Re: Shakira and Plato

In reply to this post by Frank Wimberly-2

No, for you to have a career as sexy singer.

_______________________

Ed Angel

Founding Director, Art, Research, Technology and Science Laboratory (ARTS Lab)
Professor Emeritus of Computer Science, University of New Mexico

1017 Sierra Pinon

Santa Fe, NM 87501
505-984-0136 (home) [hidden email]

505-453-4944 (cell) http://www.cs.unm.edu/~angel

On Apr 24, 2020, at 12:53 PM, Frank Wimberly <[hidden email]> wrote:

What? To date Shakira? After her halftime performance at the Superbowl I almost feel like I did.

---
Frank C. Wimberly
140 Calle Ojo Feliz,
Santa Fe, NM 87505
505 670-9918
Santa Fe, NM

On Fri, Apr 24, 2020, 12:51 PM Angel Edward <[hidden email]> wrote:
Shakira was smart enough to take belly dancing and singing first. I think she also studied CS. Missed your chance Frank.

Ed

__________

Ed Angel

Founding Director, Art, Research, Technology and Science Laboratory (ARTS Lab)
Professor Emeritus of Computer Science, University of New Mexico

1017 Sierra Pinon
Santa Fe, NM 87501
505-984-0136 (home) [hidden email]
505-453-4944 (cell) http://www.cs.unm.edu/~angel

On Apr 24, 2020, at 12:47 PM, Frank Wimberly <[hidden email]> wrote:

I took that course in the summer between my sophomore and junior years at Berkeley. Philosophy 20A the pre-Socratics. I still have some of the textbooks.

---
Frank C. Wimberly
140 Calle Ojo Feliz,
Santa Fe, NM 87505
505 670-9918
Santa Fe, NM

On Thu, Apr 23, 2020, 11:35 PM Jochen Fromm <[hidden email]> wrote:
Shakira says she has finished a Coursera course about "Ancient Philosophy - Plato and his Predecessors". If Shakira can do it, we can too ;-)
https://twitter.com/shakira/status/1253351137866104834

-J.
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Frank Wimberly-2

Re: Shakira and Plato

Funny via preposterousness,

On Fri, Apr 24, 2020 at 1:17 PM Edward Angel <[hidden email]> wrote:

No, for you to have a career as sexy singer.

Ed

_______________________

Ed Angel

Founding Director, Art, Research, Technology and Science Laboratory (ARTS Lab)
Professor Emeritus of Computer Science, University of New Mexico

1017 Sierra Pinon
Santa Fe, NM 87501
505-984-0136 (home) [hidden email]
505-453-4944 (cell) http://www.cs.unm.edu/~angel

On Apr 24, 2020, at 12:53 PM, Frank Wimberly <[hidden email]> wrote:

What? To date Shakira? After her halftime performance at the Superbowl I almost feel like I did.

---
Frank C. Wimberly
140 Calle Ojo Feliz,
Santa Fe, NM 87505
505 670-9918
Santa Fe, NM

On Fri, Apr 24, 2020, 12:51 PM Angel Edward <[hidden email]> wrote:
Shakira was smart enough to take belly dancing and singing first. I think she also studied CS. Missed your chance Frank.

Ed

__________

Ed Angel

Founding Director, Art, Research, Technology and Science Laboratory (ARTS Lab)
Professor Emeritus of Computer Science, University of New Mexico

1017 Sierra Pinon
Santa Fe, NM 87501
505-984-0136 (home) [hidden email]
505-453-4944 (cell) http://www.cs.unm.edu/~angel

On Apr 24, 2020, at 12:47 PM, Frank Wimberly <[hidden email]> wrote:

I took that course in the summer between my sophomore and junior years at Berkeley. Philosophy 20A the pre-Socratics. I still have some of the textbooks.

---
Frank C. Wimberly
140 Calle Ojo Feliz,
Santa Fe, NM 87505
505 670-9918
Santa Fe, NM

On Thu, Apr 23, 2020, 11:35 PM Jochen Fromm <[hidden email]> wrote:
Shakira says she has finished a Coursera course about "Ancient Philosophy - Plato and his Predecessors". If Shakira can do it, we can too ;-)
https://twitter.com/shakira/status/1253351137866104834

-J.
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Frank Wimberly
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