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Carl Tollander
New edition of Issac Asimov's Foundation series out, intro by ---- Paul
Krugman.   Woo-hoo!
https://webspace.princeton.edu/users/pkrugman/FDT%20intro.pdf


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Robert Holmes-3
Wow, I've not read those in three decades and that intro had me salivating. Off to Amazon…

On Tue, Oct 16, 2012 at 4:54 PM, Carl Tollander <[hidden email]> wrote:
New edition of Issac Asimov's Foundation series out, intro by ---- Paul Krugman.   Woo-hoo!
https://webspace.princeton.edu/users/pkrugman/FDT%20intro.pdf


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Douglas Roberts-2
Too bad there isn't a new edition in which the Foundation "science" remained intact, yet which had been sufficiently re-written so as to have three-dimensional characters, dialog, personalities...

On Tue, Oct 16, 2012 at 5:00 PM, Robert Holmes <[hidden email]> wrote:
Wow, I've not read those in three decades and that intro had me salivating. Off to Amazon…


On Tue, Oct 16, 2012 at 4:54 PM, Carl Tollander <[hidden email]> wrote:
New edition of Issac Asimov's Foundation series out, intro by ---- Paul Krugman.   Woo-hoo!
https://webspace.princeton.edu/users/pkrugman/FDT%20intro.pdf


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Steve Smith
I really appreciate Krugman's analysis here...

I read the Foundation Series in my late teens... I had already read a great deal of SF by that time and had developed a little sophistication about both science/math and the concepts of social/economic prediction/engineering.  Enough to really enjoy the romp Asimov took me on, but not to be taken in by it completely.  I had already been taken in by the likes of Heinlein and Rand and perhaps FT and Dune were instrumental in my spitting myself back out of their clutches. 

I was learning the duality of Utopia/Dystopia as well as the value of storytelling as "study".   FT was a study in prediction theory, the limits of science/engineering, in social/economic theories, etc.  

The worst part to my youthful formative conscience was that it seemed to support the evil slippery slope of the end justifying the means. 

Next to the likes of old school Jack Williamson or Van Vogt, Asimov's characters were at least 2.5 dimensional.

Odd that Carl's Subject line "Seldon seen" resonated with Ed Abbey's character Seldom Seen Smith... I'm about to go on a mission to Ed Abbey country which probably increased the resonance.   The genre of ecoterrorism is also near and dear to my heart with Stephenson's "Zodiac" displacing "Monkey Wrench" from the top of my list.


Too bad there isn't a new edition in which the Foundation "science" remained intact, yet which had been sufficiently re-written so as to have three-dimensional characters, dialog, personalities...

On Tue, Oct 16, 2012 at 5:00 PM, Robert Holmes <[hidden email]> wrote:
Wow, I've not read those in three decades and that intro had me salivating. Off to Amazon…


On Tue, Oct 16, 2012 at 4:54 PM, Carl Tollander <[hidden email]> wrote:
New edition of Issac Asimov's Foundation series out, intro by ---- Paul Krugman.   Woo-hoo!
https://webspace.princeton.edu/users/pkrugman/FDT%20intro.pdf


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