… and Google say they have no intention of fixing it.
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Is anybody else getting these weirdly mangled messages? A significant percentage of the messages from friam are being reported as possible spam. I am not sure, but I believe that I am not getting the original message.
From my reading of the headers, it appears that google gets the mailing list message on behalf of
[hidden email] (I'm assuming the redfish hosts their email on gmail). Google then sends it through
paris.hostgo.com, which flags the email as possible spam and then sends it on to me via Sandia's corporate email. DNS whitelisting is cited as the source for identifying the originating sender as a past spam site. This
happens with multiple participants on FRIAM, so I doubt that the actual person's address is the problem and
dnswl.org confirmed that when I looked up Robert's personal domain. I also checked on
redfish.com and you-all are not the problem. The only other domain involved at the point where the email passes through
hostgo.com is google.com - so I don't understand what is being detected.
Ray Parks
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A s someone who despises pw's, I'm not so sure I dislike the behavior! How would you "fix" it?
Now I use 1password, which requires a master pw to see the plain text of a pw. I suppose chrome could ask for your chrome login in order to see them while you're on that settings panel. I use 2-factor for Google/GMail so I'd be annoyed by an sms for a pin but not that bad.
Note Apple's keychain has all this too, again "protected" by the users machine login. I've always felt that if you lost your laptop, you were screwed anyway .. best do a remote reset.
Lets all agree logins are so '90s, and we need a far better approach. Mozilla is working on one, presumably others are too. My bank has 2-factor fob .. I wish it were a phone app, but still, folks are "moving on".
-- Owen On Wed, Aug 7, 2013 at 8:13 AM, Robert Holmes <[hidden email]> wrote:
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Ray,
Redfish.com is on a shared virtual host on hostgo.com. the Friam mailing list is run by the python script Mailman (http://www.gnu.org/software/mailman/) with mailserver on paris.hostgo.com.
Google shouldn't be in the middle. Doing a quick spot check of headers going back a year, the spam message appears to be there. And the spam scores typically are reporting "clean" with "Content analysis details: (-2.3 points, 5.0 required)". So it appears that the filter is happy.
Why your message is getting garbled, I'm not sure. Perhaps something in the Sandia Exchange server? Is anyone else getting garbled messages? -S
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tw: @redfishgroup skype: redfishgroup gvoice: <a href="tel:%28505%29%20216-6226" value="+15052166226" target="_blank">(505) 216-6226 On Wed, Aug 7, 2013 at 10:09 AM, Parks, Raymond <[hidden email]> wrote:
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> Is anyone else getting garbled messages? > My messages all get garbled. When I type them they make perfect sense but when the rest of you read them, they seem to be gibberish? Can you explain that? ============================================================ FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv Meets Fridays 9a-11:30 at cafe at St. John's College to unsubscribe http://redfish.com/mailman/listinfo/friam_redfish.com |
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It could be a temporal asymmetry in the codec. ie you may have too much time on your hands when compared to the decoders. ;-p ============================================================ FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv Meets Fridays 9a-11:30 at cafe at St. John's College to unsubscribe http://redfish.com/mailman/listinfo/friam_redfish.com |
Nup... just a higher baud rate a highly parallel neural architecture and a tendency toward autocatalytic didacticism... or on second thought, maybe it IS gibberish... ;) ============================================================ FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv Meets Fridays 9a-11:30 at cafe at St. John's College to unsubscribe http://redfish.com/mailman/listinfo/friam_redfish.com |
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