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Steve Smith
Marcus -

You seem like the most likely one (active) on list to know the
background on these folks:

https://nmpartnership.com/quantum-computing-leader-moving-research-headquarters-to-santa-fe/

I haven't dug very deep, but true to form, their website is written in
brochure speak which doesn't really say much at  all.   I'll dig into
publications they or the principals may have written...  

It is surprising to see this kind of high-tech move *to* Santa Fe, but
since they are moving *from* Jackson Hole this is a step more
cosmopolitan with a larger tech base (Silicon Mesa/Arroyo) even if it
isn't Silicon (V)Alley where you are now.  

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Frank Wimberly-2
I saw a job listing from them which led me to a SF New Mexican article.  The latter said they were seeking to hire over 100 professionals at an average salary of $90K.

I'm too old.

Frank

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On Sat, Sep 12, 2020, 6:37 PM Steve Smith <[hidden email]> wrote:
Marcus -

You seem like the most likely one (active) on list to know the
background on these folks:

https://nmpartnership.com/quantum-computing-leader-moving-research-headquarters-to-santa-fe/

I haven't dug very deep, but true to form, their website is written in
brochure speak which doesn't really say much at  all.   I'll dig into
publications they or the principals may have written...  

It is surprising to see this kind of high-tech move *to* Santa Fe, but
since they are moving *from* Jackson Hole this is a step more
cosmopolitan with a larger tech base (Silicon Mesa/Arroyo) even if it
isn't Silicon (V)Alley where you are now.  

- Steve



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No I puzzled over that for a bit, but I couldn't figure out who it would be, LANL-wise.   There are a bunch of aspiring software companies that do various sorts of physics-inspired optimization and machine learning, but I can't imagine a hardware company getting off the ground for less than $100M.  

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Marcus -

You seem like the most likely one (active) on list to know the background on these folks:

https://nmpartnership.com/quantum-computing-leader-moving-research-headquarters-to-santa-fe/

I haven't dug very deep, but true to form, their website is written in brochure speak which doesn't really say much at  all.   I'll dig into publications they or the principals may have written...  

It is surprising to see this kind of high-tech move *to* Santa Fe, but since they are moving *from* Jackson Hole this is a step more cosmopolitan with a larger tech base (Silicon Mesa/Arroyo) even if it isn't Silicon (V)Alley where you are now.  

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Re: SavantX in SFe

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On 9/12/20 6:41 PM, Frank Wimberly wrote:
I saw a job listing from them which led me to a SF New Mexican article.  The latter said they were seeking to hire over 100 professionals at an average salary of $90K.

I'm too old.
And I am "unemployable"... on several dimensions.

But I *am* interested in the tech ecology of the region and in this age of COVID imagine *some* people who previously strongly preferred the in-person networking of living in urban concentrations might well return to their roots..  And there are many more options for telework (to solve the common two-body problem). 

We already have enough draws for (usually wealthy) people to move here from the coasts or TX and distort the demographic and politic, so I'm not excited about accidentally becoming more of a *mecca* for high tech, but good jobs for folks with roots here is always welcome.  And FriAM might even attract some younger blood if there is a larger pool?   I don't know our general demographic, but I'd say an age-indexed frequency weighted average is probably near or above my 63.  Our "youngsters" here are for the most part in their 50s?    At least Cody provides some sqew away from that!

I'm also interested in the possibility that perspectives such as are presented in books like Blackfoot Physics might have some traction, and the long-shot chance that one of my young Tewa neighbors, for example,  might grow up and revolutionize this domain through hybridization of their own cosmological perspectives and those that lead to our current quantum technology.  

Glen dismisses many things as "quantum woo" and I myself find that a great deal of the "newage" (rhymes with sewage) perspective (and whatever passes for neo-newage) is quantum/laser/hologram/crystal/vibration-woo, but have a hard time dismissing it all out of hand (as does Glen I suspect).

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Re: SavantX in SFe

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The Jackson-Hole origin suggests to me a Tech M(b?)illionaire launching
from their second (or third) home in the Tetons (claiming existence
since 2015?)...  the LANL connection seems obvious, but might be
specious?  Or maybe a LANL QC kinda staffer got wooed by them, helping
them re-anchor here?

Time will tell (or not)!

> No I puzzled over that for a bit, but I couldn't figure out who it would be, LANL-wise.   There are a bunch of aspiring software companies that do various sorts of physics-inspired optimization and machine learning, but I can't imagine a hardware company getting off the ground for less than $100M.  
>
> -----Original Message-----
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> To: The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group <[hidden email]>
> Subject: [FRIAM] SavantX in SFe
>
> Marcus -
>
> You seem like the most likely one (active) on list to know the background on these folks:
>
> https://nmpartnership.com/quantum-computing-leader-moving-research-headquarters-to-santa-fe/
>
> I haven't dug very deep, but true to form, their website is written in brochure speak which doesn't really say much at  all.   I'll dig into publications they or the principals may have written...  
>
> It is surprising to see this kind of high-tech move *to* Santa Fe, but since they are moving *from* Jackson Hole this is a step more cosmopolitan with a larger tech base (Silicon Mesa/Arroyo) even if it isn't Silicon (V)Alley where you are now.  
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I see a lot of people on teleconferences these COVID-19 days that don’t make much of an effort to look professional on camera.   Bad lighting, sloppy clothes, uncombed hair, poor camera angle, poor attention, etc.   With some chroma-key software and a green wall one can look professional even in modest circumstances.    It is a good time to get into tech because interviews are all online..  $90K is called living in your car in the bay area.

 

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On 9/12/20 6:41 PM, Frank Wimberly wrote:

I saw a job listing from them which led me to a SF New Mexican article.  The latter said they were seeking to hire over 100 professionals at an average salary of $90K.

 

I'm too old.

And I am "unemployable"... on several dimensions.

But I *am* interested in the tech ecology of the region and in this age of COVID imagine *some* people who previously strongly preferred the in-person networking of living in urban concentrations might well return to their roots..  And there are many more options for telework (to solve the common two-body problem). 

We already have enough draws for (usually wealthy) people to move here from the coasts or TX and distort the demographic and politic, so I'm not excited about accidentally becoming more of a *mecca* for high tech, but good jobs for folks with roots here is always welcome.  And FriAM might even attract some younger blood if there is a larger pool?   I don't know our general demographic, but I'd say an age-indexed frequency weighted average is probably near or above my 63.  Our "youngsters" here are for the most part in their 50s?    At least Cody provides some sqew away from that!

I'm also interested in the possibility that perspectives such as are presented in books like Blackfoot Physics might have some traction, and the long-shot chance that one of my young Tewa neighbors, for example,  might grow up and revolutionize this domain through hybridization of their own cosmological perspectives and those that lead to our current quantum technology.  

Glen dismisses many things as "quantum woo" and I myself find that a great deal of the "newage" (rhymes with sewage) perspective (and whatever passes for neo-newage) is quantum/laser/hologram/crystal/vibration-woo, but have a hard time dismissing it all out of hand (as does Glen I suspect).

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Thanks for the link to that book!

I'm unable to pierce the wall of hype around savantx. Ostby's patents are about search and training sims. My guess is they're riding a string of SBIR type funding and have convinced some brass that they can do something cool. I hope it's true and not just hype.


On September 12, 2020 6:08:52 PM PDT, Steve Smith <[hidden email]> wrote:
>
>I'm also interested in the possibility that perspectives such as are
>presented in books like Blackfoot Physics
><https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/110248.Blackfoot_Physics> might
>have some traction, and the long-shot chance that one of my young Tewa
>neighbors, for example,  might grow up and revolutionize this domain
>through hybridization of their own cosmological perspectives and those
>that lead to our current quantum technology.  
>
--
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gepr
It seems they're not trying to be a hardware company.
https://www.insidequantumtechnology.com/news/savantx-partnering-with-d-wave-to-help-trucking-companies-optimizing-loads-and-driver-retention/

I found no listings in the gov funded contracts databases. But CNN lists them as a PPP recipient:
https://www.cnn.com/projects/ppp-business-loans/businesses/savantx-inc

My new guess is Ed made a pretty penny in an IPO and has been hunting for the next big wave, buzzwords from AI/ML to data science to QC.

I'm worried that HONE might be an interesting thing that gets occluded by 'entrepreneurship'.

On September 13, 2020 3:10:25 AM PDT, "⛧ glen" <[hidden email]> wrote:

>Thanks for the link to that book!
>
>I'm unable to pierce the wall of hype around savantx. Ostby's patents
>are about search and training sims. My guess is they're riding a string
>of SBIR type funding and have convinced some brass that they can do
>something cool. I hope it's true and not just hype.
>
>
>On September 12, 2020 6:08:52 PM PDT, Steve Smith <[hidden email]>
>wrote:
>>
>>I'm also interested in the possibility that perspectives such as are
>>presented in books like Blackfoot Physics
>><https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/110248.Blackfoot_Physics> might
>>have some traction, and the long-shot chance that one of my young Tewa
>>neighbors, for example,  might grow up and revolutionize this domain
>>through hybridization of their own cosmological perspectives and those
>>that lead to our current quantum technology.  
>>

--
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Steve Smith
Thinks for the extra references.   I can't penetrate the brochure-speak
either... even HONE which sounds like yet another gussied up machine
learning platform.  Of course, a great deal of the success in that
domain is it's application.   I'm assuming they are stirring in some
Quantum just to create the appearance of an "edge". 

Do you have any more insight into what HONE is beyond the words that
make the acronym?

Heinbockel's other company of record:  Visual Purple
https://visualpurple.com reminds me way too much of the two major
clients that I suffered in the last 12 years... WorldScape and Micoy,
each of whom were aspiring to fill a strong niche in virtual training
and hollywood FX, but they started with modest IP in the multi-camera
capture domain (flat and spherical arrays)...  the websites are slick
enough and have enough implied content for many customers I suspect.   I
think their demo reel would be what makes or breaks them.  And whomever
his "co-founder" might be...

On 9/13/20 5:40 AM, ⛧ glen wrote:

> It seems they're not trying to be a hardware company.
> https://www.insidequantumtechnology.com/news/savantx-partnering-with-d-wave-to-help-trucking-companies-optimizing-loads-and-driver-retention/
>
> I found no listings in the gov funded contracts databases. But CNN lists them as a PPP recipient:
> https://www.cnn.com/projects/ppp-business-loans/businesses/savantx-inc
>
> My new guess is Ed made a pretty penny in an IPO and has been hunting for the next big wave, buzzwords from AI/ML to data science to QC.
>
> I'm worried that HONE might be an interesting thing that gets occluded by 'entrepreneurship'.
>
> On September 13, 2020 3:10:25 AM PDT, "⛧ glen" <[hidden email]> wrote:
>> Thanks for the link to that book!
>>
>> I'm unable to pierce the wall of hype around savantx. Ostby's patents
>> are about search and training sims. My guess is they're riding a string
>> of SBIR type funding and have convinced some brass that they can do
>> something cool. I hope it's true and not just hype.
>>
>>
>> On September 12, 2020 6:08:52 PM PDT, Steve Smith <[hidden email]>
>> wrote:
>>> I'm also interested in the possibility that perspectives such as are
>>> presented in books like Blackfoot Physics
>>> <https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/110248.Blackfoot_Physics> might
>>> have some traction, and the long-shot chance that one of my young Tewa
>>> neighbors, for example,  might grow up and revolutionize this domain
>>> through hybridization of their own cosmological perspectives and those
>>> that lead to our current quantum technology.  
>>>


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Frank Wimberly-2
HONE.  What are the words that make up the acronym?  

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On Sun, Sep 13, 2020, 8:10 AM Steve Smith <[hidden email]> wrote:
Thinks for the extra references.   I can't penetrate the brochure-speak
either... even HONE which sounds like yet another gussied up machine
learning platform.  Of course, a great deal of the success in that
domain is it's application.   I'm assuming they are stirring in some
Quantum just to create the appearance of an "edge". 

Do you have any more insight into what HONE is beyond the words that
make the acronym?

Heinbockel's other company of record:  Visual Purple
https://visualpurple.com reminds me way too much of the two major
clients that I suffered in the last 12 years... WorldScape and Micoy,
each of whom were aspiring to fill a strong niche in virtual training
and hollywood FX, but they started with modest IP in the multi-camera
capture domain (flat and spherical arrays)...  the websites are slick
enough and have enough implied content for many customers I suspect.   I
think their demo reel would be what makes or breaks them.  And whomever
his "co-founder" might be...

On 9/13/20 5:40 AM, ⛧ glen wrote:
> It seems they're not trying to be a hardware company.
> https://www.insidequantumtechnology.com/news/savantx-partnering-with-d-wave-to-help-trucking-companies-optimizing-loads-and-driver-retention/
>
> I found no listings in the gov funded contracts databases. But CNN lists them as a PPP recipient:
> https://www.cnn.com/projects/ppp-business-loans/businesses/savantx-inc
>
> My new guess is Ed made a pretty penny in an IPO and has been hunting for the next big wave, buzzwords from AI/ML to data science to QC.
>
> I'm worried that HONE might be an interesting thing that gets occluded by 'entrepreneurship'.
>
> On September 13, 2020 3:10:25 AM PDT, "⛧ glen" <[hidden email]> wrote:
>> Thanks for the link to that book!
>>
>> I'm unable to pierce the wall of hype around savantx. Ostby's patents
>> are about search and training sims. My guess is they're riding a string
>> of SBIR type funding and have convinced some brass that they can do
>> something cool. I hope it's true and not just hype.
>>
>>
>> On September 12, 2020 6:08:52 PM PDT, Steve Smith <[hidden email]>
>> wrote:
>>> I'm also interested in the possibility that perspectives such as are
>>> presented in books like Blackfoot Physics
>>> <https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/110248.Blackfoot_Physics> might
>>> have some traction, and the long-shot chance that one of my young Tewa
>>> neighbors, for example,  might grow up and revolutionize this domain
>>> through hybridization of their own cosmological perspectives and those
>>> that lead to our current quantum technology.  
>>>


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Steve Smith

Frank -

Sorry... in my attempt to become "more brief" in my rattling on here, I left a few things out I could have included/referenced.   Also, I've only penetrated the first layer myself.

From https://www.insidequantumtechnology.com/news/savantx-partnering-with-d-wave-to-help-trucking-companies-optimizing-loads-and-driver-retention/

we read:

"With D-Wave’s quantum services, SavantX has begun offering its Hyper Optimization Nodal Efficiency (HONE) technology to solve optimization problems to customers such as the Pier 300 container terminal project at the Port of Los Angeles."

I don't find any HONE references in their website... which feels a little odd...   but not unsurprising for a company just standing up or in transition.

The most directly relevant to my work is their HyperNav which appears to be ("nothing more than") a workflow or methodology around projecting 6 dimensions into 3 which might be "nothing more than" a grand tour or projection-pursuit technique (which is where I was hinting Dave to start his own pursuit of hyper-platonic solids).  It is a hard problem to guide naive practitioners to begin to "see" their higher dimensional data/models in an intuitive way that fits their needs.   Visual Purple appears to be somewhat "boutique" depending on the talent/genius of individual 3D animators to customize a data/model treatment that fits their client's proclivities.   I honor and value that skill but am more interested, myself in novel methodologies that *support* that kind of insight/genius.   I'm not sure if HyperNav is that... and I suppose HONE feels the same way in ??? domain?

- Steve

On 9/13/20 8:14 AM, Frank Wimberly wrote:
HONE.  What are the words that make up the acronym?  

---
Frank C. Wimberly
140 Calle Ojo Feliz,
Santa Fe, NM 87505

505 670-9918
Santa Fe, NM

On Sun, Sep 13, 2020, 8:10 AM Steve Smith <[hidden email]> wrote:
Thinks for the extra references.   I can't penetrate the brochure-speak
either... even HONE which sounds like yet another gussied up machine
learning platform.  Of course, a great deal of the success in that
domain is it's application.   I'm assuming they are stirring in some
Quantum just to create the appearance of an "edge". 

Do you have any more insight into what HONE is beyond the words that
make the acronym?

Heinbockel's other company of record:  Visual Purple
https://visualpurple.com reminds me way too much of the two major
clients that I suffered in the last 12 years... WorldScape and Micoy,
each of whom were aspiring to fill a strong niche in virtual training
and hollywood FX, but they started with modest IP in the multi-camera
capture domain (flat and spherical arrays)...  the websites are slick
enough and have enough implied content for many customers I suspect.   I
think their demo reel would be what makes or breaks them.  And whomever
his "co-founder" might be...

On 9/13/20 5:40 AM, ⛧ glen wrote:
> It seems they're not trying to be a hardware company.
> https://www.insidequantumtechnology.com/news/savantx-partnering-with-d-wave-to-help-trucking-companies-optimizing-loads-and-driver-retention/
>
> I found no listings in the gov funded contracts databases. But CNN lists them as a PPP recipient:
> https://www.cnn.com/projects/ppp-business-loans/businesses/savantx-inc
>
> My new guess is Ed made a pretty penny in an IPO and has been hunting for the next big wave, buzzwords from AI/ML to data science to QC.
>
> I'm worried that HONE might be an interesting thing that gets occluded by 'entrepreneurship'.
>
> On September 13, 2020 3:10:25 AM PDT, "⛧ glen" <[hidden email]> wrote:
>> Thanks for the link to that book!
>>
>> I'm unable to pierce the wall of hype around savantx. Ostby's patents
>> are about search and training sims. My guess is they're riding a string
>> of SBIR type funding and have convinced some brass that they can do
>> something cool. I hope it's true and not just hype.
>>
>>
>> On September 12, 2020 6:08:52 PM PDT, Steve Smith <[hidden email]>
>> wrote:
>>> I'm also interested in the possibility that perspectives such as are
>>> presented in books like Blackfoot Physics
>>> <https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/110248.Blackfoot_Physics> might
>>> have some traction, and the long-shot chance that one of my young Tewa
>>> neighbors, for example,  might grow up and revolutionize this domain
>>> through hybridization of their own cosmological perspectives and those
>>> that lead to our current quantum technology.  
>>>


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Steve Smith

Their IP seems to be in full-text indexing/search/patterning along the lines of Abe Lederman's Deep Web

https://www.deepwebtech.com/

On 9/13/20 8:44 AM, Steve Smith wrote:

Frank -

Sorry... in my attempt to become "more brief" in my rattling on here, I left a few things out I could have included/referenced.   Also, I've only penetrated the first layer myself.

From https://www.insidequantumtechnology.com/news/savantx-partnering-with-d-wave-to-help-trucking-companies-optimizing-loads-and-driver-retention/

we read:

"With D-Wave’s quantum services, SavantX has begun offering its Hyper Optimization Nodal Efficiency (HONE) technology to solve optimization problems to customers such as the Pier 300 container terminal project at the Port of Los Angeles."

I don't find any HONE references in their website... which feels a little odd...   but not unsurprising for a company just standing up or in transition.

The most directly relevant to my work is their HyperNav which appears to be ("nothing more than") a workflow or methodology around projecting 6 dimensions into 3 which might be "nothing more than" a grand tour or projection-pursuit technique (which is where I was hinting Dave to start his own pursuit of hyper-platonic solids).  It is a hard problem to guide naive practitioners to begin to "see" their higher dimensional data/models in an intuitive way that fits their needs.   Visual Purple appears to be somewhat "boutique" depending on the talent/genius of individual 3D animators to customize a data/model treatment that fits their client's proclivities.   I honor and value that skill but am more interested, myself in novel methodologies that *support* that kind of insight/genius.   I'm not sure if HyperNav is that... and I suppose HONE feels the same way in ??? domain?

- Steve

On 9/13/20 8:14 AM, Frank Wimberly wrote:
HONE.  What are the words that make up the acronym?  

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On Sun, Sep 13, 2020, 8:10 AM Steve Smith <[hidden email]> wrote:
Thinks for the extra references.   I can't penetrate the brochure-speak
either... even HONE which sounds like yet another gussied up machine
learning platform.  Of course, a great deal of the success in that
domain is it's application.   I'm assuming they are stirring in some
Quantum just to create the appearance of an "edge". 

Do you have any more insight into what HONE is beyond the words that
make the acronym?

Heinbockel's other company of record:  Visual Purple
https://visualpurple.com reminds me way too much of the two major
clients that I suffered in the last 12 years... WorldScape and Micoy,
each of whom were aspiring to fill a strong niche in virtual training
and hollywood FX, but they started with modest IP in the multi-camera
capture domain (flat and spherical arrays)...  the websites are slick
enough and have enough implied content for many customers I suspect.   I
think their demo reel would be what makes or breaks them.  And whomever
his "co-founder" might be...

On 9/13/20 5:40 AM, ⛧ glen wrote:
> It seems they're not trying to be a hardware company.
> https://www.insidequantumtechnology.com/news/savantx-partnering-with-d-wave-to-help-trucking-companies-optimizing-loads-and-driver-retention/
>
> I found no listings in the gov funded contracts databases. But CNN lists them as a PPP recipient:
> https://www.cnn.com/projects/ppp-business-loans/businesses/savantx-inc
>
> My new guess is Ed made a pretty penny in an IPO and has been hunting for the next big wave, buzzwords from AI/ML to data science to QC.
>
> I'm worried that HONE might be an interesting thing that gets occluded by 'entrepreneurship'.
>
> On September 13, 2020 3:10:25 AM PDT, "⛧ glen" <[hidden email]> wrote:
>> Thanks for the link to that book!
>>
>> I'm unable to pierce the wall of hype around savantx. Ostby's patents
>> are about search and training sims. My guess is they're riding a string
>> of SBIR type funding and have convinced some brass that they can do
>> something cool. I hope it's true and not just hype.
>>
>>
>> On September 12, 2020 6:08:52 PM PDT, Steve Smith <[hidden email]>
>> wrote:
>>> I'm also interested in the possibility that perspectives such as are
>>> presented in books like Blackfoot Physics
>>> <https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/110248.Blackfoot_Physics> might
>>> have some traction, and the long-shot chance that one of my young Tewa
>>> neighbors, for example,  might grow up and revolutionize this domain
>>> through hybridization of their own cosmological perspectives and those
>>> that lead to our current quantum technology.  
>>>


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Nothing for sure. This recent patent seems indicative:

David Linus Ostby
https://scholar.google.com/scholar?hl=en&as_sdt=0%2C48&q=david+ostby&oq=d#d=gs_qabs&u=%23p%3DqplV7M8W2xwJ

But Ostby's also presented on graph search:
http://nmbdas.com/speakers/


On September 13, 2020 7:10:14 AM PDT, Steve Smith <[hidden email]> wrote:

>Thinks for the extra references.   I can't penetrate the brochure-speak
>either... even HONE which sounds like yet another gussied up machine
>learning platform.  Of course, a great deal of the success in that
>domain is it's application.   I'm assuming they are stirring in some
>Quantum just to create the appearance of an "edge".
>
>Do you have any more insight into what HONE is beyond the words that
>make the acronym?
>
>Heinbockel's other company of record:  Visual Purple
>https://visualpurple.com reminds me way too much of the two major
>clients that I suffered in the last 12 years... WorldScape and Micoy,
>each of whom were aspiring to fill a strong niche in virtual training
>and hollywood FX, but they started with modest IP in the multi-camera
>capture domain (flat and spherical arrays)...  the websites are slick
>enough and have enough implied content for many customers I suspect.  
>I
>think their demo reel would be what makes or breaks them.  And whomever
>his "co-founder" might be...
>


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There are a number of these logistics software companies that are doing what amounts to integer quadratic programming but cast it as a quantum or quantum ‘inspired’ optimization to discriminate from bigger players in their space.   I do remember this name now so will not further comment.  I thought it was just a name collision.   Not a quantum computing company in the way I thought was intended.

> On Sep 13, 2020, at 8:07 AM, glen∉ℂ <[hidden email]> wrote:
>
> Nothing for sure. This recent patent seems indicative:
>
> David Linus Ostby
> https://scholar.google.com/scholar?hl=en&as_sdt=0%2C48&q=david+ostby&oq=d#d=gs_qabs&u=%23p%3DqplV7M8W2xwJ
>
> But Ostby's also presented on graph search:
> http://nmbdas.com/speakers/
>
>
>> On September 13, 2020 7:10:14 AM PDT, Steve Smith <[hidden email]> wrote:
>> Thinks for the extra references.   I can't penetrate the brochure-speak
>> either... even HONE which sounds like yet another gussied up machine
>> learning platform.  Of course, a great deal of the success in that
>> domain is it's application.   I'm assuming they are stirring in some
>> Quantum just to create the appearance of an "edge".
>> Do you have any more insight into what HONE is beyond the words that
>> make the acronym?
>>
>> Heinbockel's other company of record:  Visual Purple
>> https://visualpurple.com reminds me way too much of the two major
>> clients that I suffered in the last 12 years... WorldScape and Micoy,
>> each of whom were aspiring to fill a strong niche in virtual training
>> and hollywood FX, but they started with modest IP in the multi-camera
>> capture domain (flat and spherical arrays)...  the websites are slick
>> enough and have enough implied content for many customers I suspect.  I
>> think their demo reel would be what makes or breaks them.  And whomever
>> his "co-founder" might be...
>>
>
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Good finds... thanks

On 9/13/20 9:07 AM, glen∉ℂ wrote:

> Nothing for sure. This recent patent seems indicative:
>
> David Linus Ostby
> https://scholar.google.com/scholar?hl=en&as_sdt=0%2C48&q=david+ostby&oq=d#d=gs_qabs&u=%23p%3DqplV7M8W2xwJ
>
>
> But Ostby's also presented on graph search:
> http://nmbdas.com/speakers/
>
>
> On September 13, 2020 7:10:14 AM PDT, Steve Smith <[hidden email]>
> wrote:
>> Thinks for the extra references.   I can't penetrate the brochure-speak
>> either... even HONE which sounds like yet another gussied up machine
>> learning platform.  Of course, a great deal of the success in that
>> domain is it's application.   I'm assuming they are stirring in some
>> Quantum just to create the appearance of an "edge".
>> Do you have any more insight into what HONE is beyond the words that
>> make the acronym?
>>
>> Heinbockel's other company of record:  Visual Purple
>> https://visualpurple.com reminds me way too much of the two major
>> clients that I suffered in the last 12 years... WorldScape and Micoy,
>> each of whom were aspiring to fill a strong niche in virtual training
>> and hollywood FX, but they started with modest IP in the multi-camera
>> capture domain (flat and spherical arrays)...  the websites are slick
>> enough and have enough implied content for many customers I suspect.  I
>> think their demo reel would be what makes or breaks them.  And whomever
>> his "co-founder" might be...
>>
>
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