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Doug,
This is the second time this rule has been offered as a rule of FRIAM in a way that might confuse folks. PH wrote ===>Seems to me that everything from epigenetic gene regulation changes to > horizontal gene transfer is happening at the bacterial level.. <=== In response , Doug Wrote ===> You know, not to sound too harshly judgmental, or anything, ... But: you do seem to be in direct violation of rule #2 of the FRIAM posting guidelines which, like rule #1 reads "*Second **rule of FRIAM: no one talks about specifics*."<===== I dont think it is a rule, but if it were one, I would say it is a terrible one and we should change it. Without the details and the examples, we are confined to the world of ideological blather. So, I would hope that we could pool our technical resources and come to a common view on the assertion made above. Much of the research that has been done on epigenetic gene regulation has indeed been done on bacteria! Does that mean that it has few implications for our understanding of macro organisms? Discuss. Defend your answer with specifics. It's a great question and I would hate to see people scared a way from trying to answer it. Nick ============================================================ FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv Meets Fridays 9a-11:30 at cafe at St. John's College lectures, archives, unsubscribe, maps at http://www.friam.org |
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Nick,
It appears as if you suggesting, specifically, that we should change *two* rules (#1 as well as #2), unwritten though they both be. Let me just tell you that if rewriting these two unwritten rules will release us from the world of ideological blather that has become the FRIAM list's hallmark, I say let the rewriting commence. Fear not, in any event. It is impossible to scare FRIAM'ers away from posting to the list. --Doug On Sat, Oct 11, 2008 at 12:25 PM, Nicholas Thompson <[hidden email]> wrote: Doug, ============================================================ FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv Meets Fridays 9a-11:30 at cafe at St. John's College lectures, archives, unsubscribe, maps at http://www.friam.org |
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But then if you rewrite unwritten rules #1 and #2 would you then
also rewrite unwritten rules #3 and #4, which as I seem to observe say there’s
always some exception to rules #1 and #2 in case you have anything particular
to say, so long as you leave openings for those who may wish to read nothing in
particular into it. I think 3 & 4, if I’m right that they exist, are
very useful…! Phil From:
[hidden email] [mailto:[hidden email]] On Behalf Of Douglas
Roberts Nick, On Sat, Oct 11, 2008 at 12:25 PM, Nicholas Thompson <[hidden email]>
wrote: Doug,
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Nicholas Thompson wrote:
> > Much of the research that has > been done on epigenetic gene regulation has indeed been done on bacteria! > Does that mean that it has few implications for our understanding of macro > organisms? http://www.nature.com/ejhg/journal/v15/n7/full/5201832a.html http://www.pnas.org/content/104/32/13056.abstract http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/1241672 http://linkinghub.elsevier.com/retrieve/pii/S0046817701983819 http://www3.interscience.wiley.com/journal/112627975/abstract?CRETRY=1&SRETRY=0 ============================================================ FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv Meets Fridays 9a-11:30 at cafe at St. John's College lectures, archives, unsubscribe, maps at http://www.friam.org |
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