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Gillian Densmore

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Winter is here. Snow is as well. Nothing new. Why is it then santa fes pipelines dont salt the roads. Keep heat and power going? Today ive had the power crash at least 5 times. This does nothing but harm to my computer. It fs up work im doing.
Is there a doodad l can get to elimiminate those issues?

Asking here since friamers probably know more about options than I do.

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joshua@stigmergic.net

Re: Rly

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Uninterruptible_power_supply

pricy but worth it.

I had been so spoiled after years of using laptops as my primary computer, that when I went back to a desktop machine I had no idea just how quick you can lose everything. An uninterruptible power supply gives you a chance to put things away in an orderly manner.

—joshua

On Nov 26, 2013, at 2:56 PM, Gillian Densmore <[hidden email]> wrote:

Winter is here. Snow is as well. Nothing new. Why is it then santa fes pipelines dont salt the roads. Keep heat and power going? Today ive had the power crash at least 5 times. This does nothing but harm to my computer. It fs up work im doing.
Is there a doodad l can get to elimiminate those issues?
Asking here since friamers probably know more about options than I do.
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Carl Tollander

Re: Rly

A lot of them have fans, which can be annoying. The "Geek Squad" brand over at Best Buy has nice specs and at least from several years ago, had figured out how to do the deed with no noisy fan. In any case you may need to plan for the amps on your circuit that the UPS will take up, and get enough of a UPS unit to support the draw that your various devices use.

Carl

On 11/26/13, 3:17 PM, Joshua Thorp wrote:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Uninterruptible_power_supply

pricy but worth it.

I had been so spoiled after years of using laptops as my primary computer, that when I went back to a desktop machine I had no idea just how quick you can lose everything. An uninterruptible power supply gives you a chance to put things away in an orderly manner.

—joshua

On Nov 26, 2013, at 2:56 PM, Gillian Densmore <[hidden email]> wrote:

Winter is here. Snow is as well. Nothing new. Why is it then santa fes pipelines dont salt the roads. Keep heat and power going? Today ive had the power crash at least 5 times. This does nothing but harm to my computer. It fs up work im doing.
Is there a doodad l can get to elimiminate those issues?

Asking here since friamers probably know more about options than I do.
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Carl Tollander

Re: Rly

Hmph. BB doesn't carry them any more. Turns out they are rebadged Cyberpower units. Other people complain about fan noise, but mine was quiet. Maybe the fan was broken, but it worked fine.

On 11/26/13, 3:28 PM, Carl Tollander wrote:

A lot of them have fans, which can be annoying. The "Geek Squad" brand over at Best Buy has nice specs and at least from several years ago, had figured out how to do the deed with no noisy fan. In any case you may need to plan for the amps on your circuit that the UPS will take up, and get enough of a UPS unit to support the draw that your various devices use.

Carl

On 11/26/13, 3:17 PM, Joshua Thorp wrote:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Uninterruptible_power_supply

pricy but worth it.

I had been so spoiled after years of using laptops as my primary computer, that when I went back to a desktop machine I had no idea just how quick you can lose everything. An uninterruptible power supply gives you a chance to put things away in an orderly manner.

—joshua

On Nov 26, 2013, at 2:56 PM, Gillian Densmore <[hidden email]> wrote:

Winter is here. Snow is as well. Nothing new. Why is it then santa fes pipelines dont salt the roads. Keep heat and power going? Today ive had the power crash at least 5 times. This does nothing but harm to my computer. It fs up work im doing.
Is there a doodad l can get to elimiminate those issues?

Asking here since friamers probably know more about options than I do.
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Owen Densmore

Re: Rly

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My two are so small they don't have fans.

-- Owen

On Tue, Nov 26, 2013 at 4:51 PM, Carl Tollander <[hidden email]> wrote:

Hmph. BB doesn't carry them any more. Turns out they are rebadged Cyberpower units. Other people complain about fan noise, but mine was quiet. Maybe the fan was broken, but it worked fine.
On 11/26/13, 3:28 PM, Carl Tollander wrote:
A lot of them have fans, which can be annoying. The "Geek Squad" brand over at Best Buy has nice specs and at least from several years ago, had figured out how to do the deed with no noisy fan. In any case you may need to plan for the amps on your circuit that the UPS will take up, and get enough of a UPS unit to support the draw that your various devices use.

Carl

On 11/26/13, 3:17 PM, Joshua Thorp wrote:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Uninterruptible_power_supply

pricy but worth it.

I had been so spoiled after years of using laptops as my primary computer, that when I went back to a desktop machine I had no idea just how quick you can lose everything. An uninterruptible power supply gives you a chance to put things away in an orderly manner.

—joshua

On Nov 26, 2013, at 2:56 PM, Gillian Densmore <[hidden email]> wrote:

Winter is here. Snow is as well. Nothing new. Why is it then santa fes pipelines dont salt the roads. Keep heat and power going? Today ive had the power crash at least 5 times. This does nothing but harm to my computer. It fs up work im doing.
Is there a doodad l can get to elimiminate those issues?

Asking here since friamers probably know more about options than I do.
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glen ep ropella

Re: Rly

In reply to this post by joshua@stigmergic.net

A (small) generator is useful, too.

http://powerequipment.honda.com/generators/models/eu2000i

When your UPS beeps, hop over and start the generator.

On 11/26/2013 02:17 PM, Joshua Thorp wrote:

> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Uninterruptible_power_supply
>
> pricy but worth it.
>
> I had been so spoiled after years of using laptops as my primary
> computer, that when I went back to a desktop machine I had no idea just
> how quick you can lose everything. An uninterruptible power supply
> gives you a chance to put things away in an orderly manner.
>
> —joshua
>
> On Nov 26, 2013, at 2:56 PM, Gillian Densmore <[hidden email]
> <mailto:[hidden email]>> wrote:
>
>> Winter is here. Snow is as well. Nothing new. Why is it then santa fes
>> pipelines dont salt the roads. Keep heat and power going? Today ive
>> had the power crash at least 5 times. This does nothing but harm to my
>> computer. It fs up work im doing.
>> Is there a doodad l can get to elimiminate those issues?
>>
>> Asking here since friamers probably know more about options than I do.

--
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glen ep ropella

Re: Rly

Outside! ... of course ... Don't run generators inside your house or
garage... of course ... goes without saying. 8^) But I have heard of
some people dying of asphyxiation because they ran generators in their
garage.

On 11/26/2013 04:48 PM, glen e. p. ropella wrote:

>
> A (small) generator is useful, too.
>
> http://powerequipment.honda.com/generators/models/eu2000i
>
> When your UPS beeps, hop over and start the generator.
>
>
> On 11/26/2013 02:17 PM, Joshua Thorp wrote:
>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Uninterruptible_power_supply
>>
>> pricy but worth it.
>>
>> I had been so spoiled after years of using laptops as my primary
>> computer, that when I went back to a desktop machine I had no idea just
>> how quick you can lose everything. An uninterruptible power supply
>> gives you a chance to put things away in an orderly manner.
>>
>> —joshua
>>
>> On Nov 26, 2013, at 2:56 PM, Gillian Densmore <[hidden email]
>> <mailto:[hidden email]>> wrote:
>>
>>> Winter is here. Snow is as well. Nothing new. Why is it then santa fes
>>> pipelines dont salt the roads. Keep heat and power going? Today ive
>>> had the power crash at least 5 times. This does nothing but harm to my
>>> computer. It fs up work im doing.
>>> Is there a doodad l can get to elimiminate those issues?
>>>
>>> Asking here since friamers probably know more about options than I do.
>

Gary Schiltz-4

Re: Rly

In reply to this post by glen ep ropella

Or, there in the land of eternal sunshine, there is nearly always solar (daylight hours of course).

On Nov 26, 2013, at 7:48 PM, glen e. p. ropella <[hidden email]> wrote:

>
> A (small) generator is useful, too.
>
> http://powerequipment.honda.com/generators/models/eu2000i
>
> When your UPS beeps, hop over and start the generator.

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Gillian Densmore

Re: Rly

Solar would be nice (as a option) I doubt the landlords would complain. The Histarical society on the other hand.. and if they existed a matter/anti matter generator.

On Tue, Nov 26, 2013 at 6:05 PM, Gary Schiltz <[hidden email]> wrote:

Or, there in the land of eternal sunshine, there is nearly always solar (daylight hours of course).

On Nov 26, 2013, at 7:48 PM, glen e. p. ropella <[hidden email]> wrote:

>
> A (small) generator is useful, too.
>
> http://powerequipment.honda.com/generators/models/eu2000i
>
> When your UPS beeps, hop over and start the generator.

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Parks, Raymond

Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: Rly

As I recently said on another email list - use power generated from dark matter excreted by Nibblonians.

On a more serious note - any electronics that boots an OS (almost all entertainment equipment) and which does not have an internal battery should be protected by a UPS. They can be noisy, but most newer ones are relatively quiet. When you're looking for one, ignore the VA rating - that reflects older equipment that was about 60% efficient. Most new electronics are 90% efficient so you can use the Watt rating. The closer your load gets to 90% of the total watt rating, the shorter the time you have before the UPS runs out of juice. Sine wave output is better for some things - computers don't really care but TVs may.

If you do go with solar panels, there are a range of options from solar-panel charged batteries through direct solar panel power with a small inverter to a full solar power system. My wife used the "solar generator" (a battery pack that can be charged with a couple of solar panels) to get through power outages in San Antonio. She liked the system. With the advent of grid-tied solar systems, there is a dearth automatic transfer switches (ATS) for old-fashioned solar panel to battery to inverter to ATS setups. When I first looked into solar power, the systems were built around battery banks charged from the solar panels and fed back into the house through an inverter. If the house was connected to the grid, an ATS would switch between the sources (including, possibly, a generator) favoring the solar source. That type of ATS is now rare, with grid-tied and RV systems dominating the marketplace.

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On Nov 27, 2013, at 8:52 AM, Gillian Densmore wrote:

Solar would be nice (as a option) I doubt the landlords would complain. The Histarical society on the other hand.. and if they existed a matter/anti matter generator.

On Tue, Nov 26, 2013 at 6:05 PM, Gary Schiltz <[hidden email]> wrote:

Or, there in the land of eternal sunshine, there is nearly always solar (daylight hours of course).

On Nov 26, 2013, at 7:48 PM, glen e. p. ropella <[hidden email]> wrote:

>
> A (small) generator is useful, too.
>
> http://powerequipment.honda.com/generators/models/eu2000i
>
> When your UPS beeps, hop over and start the generator.

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