Re: [sfx: Discuss] FCC - Open Internet Challenge

[Owen Densmore]

I have to agree that this is truely extraordinary.  The FCC? Open Internet?  Enough so that I though it was some sort of Phishing.

I suppose the most important thing would be a Constitution for the Internet.  Currently we have only the code, as Lessig would say .. which he follow by the title of his book: Code is Law, discussing that the structure of the "code" (Internet) creates its own minimalist laws.

So to really go after this, we would have to clearly identify what we mean by the Internet:

- The TCP/IP stack

- The DNS

- The routing protocols/architecture

(I don't think the "application level" protocols [http, mail, ftp...] need to be there at the start but possibly the Well Known Ports?)

Then layer on top of that a Constitution, which describes what we demand, but the code cannot inforce.

Fascinating.

    -- Owen

On Jan 7, 2011, at 8:39 AM, Nicholas Thompson wrote:

Richard,

 

This fascinated me in the way that so many things fascinated me that I know BFA about. 

I hope we will discuss it further, here.  I hope we will bring it to the FRIAM list.  Even to this morning’s FRIAM discussion.  It seems like something we all – well, you-all -- could contribute to. 

 

I know it’s primarily a technical problem, but here is a related philosophical issue.  One of the relatively unstated assumptions about the open internet is that it should be possible to be anonymous.  Now, anonymity is a strange bedfellow of openness. Openness implies being responsible for what you say.   You can go to hyde park and say what ever you want but you cant wear a bag over your head while you are doing it …. Well, I suppose you could, but nobody would listen to you.  So I am wondering, how many of the technical perils of the internet arise from the desire to maintain the possibility of anonymity.  So, how many of the problems of security on the internet would be solved by a technical solution that traded anonymity for access: i.e., the more you were willing to say who you were, the more freedom you got on the internet. 

 

Nick

 

From: Richard Lowenberg [mailto:[hidden email]] 
Sent: Thursday, January 06, 2011 6:32 PM
To: [hidden email]
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Subject: [sfx: Discuss] FCC - Open Internet Challenge

 

The FCC has announced a challenge to researchers and software developers 

to engage in research and create apps that help consumers foster, measure, and protect Internet openness.  

"The Open Internet Challenge is part of the FCC’s efforts to empower end users to help preserve Internet openness. 

Details of the challenge are posted at openinternet.gov/challenge    

 

http://challenge.gov/FCC/114-fcc-open-internet-apps-challenge

 

 

 

 

 

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