Nick -
But you can't argue with the multifaceted literary/cinematic allusion to
Fight Club which is sooo apropos on so many levels!
When _Choke_ comes out in cinematic form, that will add a whole other
suite of potential references!
I do however, like your reference to self-fulfilling irony, and I do
appreciate your description of the lists occasional "incandescence"
which for me, at least, evokes the wonderful sense of equal and abundant
measures of heat *and* light!
- Steve
(closet Chuck Palahnuik fan)
> Robert Holmes wrote
>
> ==>"First rule of FRIAM: no one talks about specifics"<===
>
>
> Nick Thompson replies:
>
> BAD Robert; BAD, BAD, BAAAAAD!
>
> "Bad" because untrue. Sometimes the list gets mindnumbingly specific, say,
> about specific softwares and what you use them for.
>
> And Bad because we were talking to a Newbie at the time and your irony
> might in fact be taken for a friam proscription. It's called,
> "self-fullfilling irony."
>
> For me, the list is most exciting when there is tension between the
> specific and the general, when, for instance, we talk about Rosen, but do
> so with a specific passge or text in mind, or talk about relativity, with a
> specific phenomenon or formulation in mind, or, at the other extreme,
> talk about a specific software development or scientific observation
> because it raises some general issue or paradox. When we achieve that
> tension, we are ..... incandescent! I would urge all of us, when we are
> discussing generalities, to provide examples from texts or from nature, and
> when when we are talking about specifics, to provide the principles or
> issues to which they are relevant.
>
> That's my two cents.
>
> Nick
>
>
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