I actually like eclipse and wouldn't want to code if a decent IDE weren't available. I had never heard of jEdit. From its web page it sounds like an editor moving in the direction of becoming an IDE. That's fine. But if one wants an IDE why not use one?
The biggest problem I have with eclipse is that it seems to have developed some bugs. That's surprising (to me) since it seemed so solid up 'til the latest few versions.
When I teach Haskell, one of the biggest problems I have is that there are no good IDEs for it. Hugs provides a useful workspace, but people have been moving to GHC, which simulates a command window. jEdit says it supports Haskell syntax highlighting, which is better than nothing.
Among the reasons I like eclipse (and other decent IDEs) is that they know a lot about the language one is using. It's very nice to see syntax errors, type mismatches, etc. noted while editing. It's also nice to have the system change all instances of names when I change a variable or method name, (Or even a class or package name.) It also provides support for changing the number of parameters to a method, and if you try such a change on a method in a subclass that overrides that method in the superclass it asks if you really want to make the change there.
As I said before, the value of a decent IDE is that it knows about the language you are using and can help in ways that an editor that doesn't have the knowledge can't.
-- Russ
On Fri, Mar 12, 2010 at 7:16 PM, Owen Densmore
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It's directly proportional to how gawd awful languages and their management become. Basically programming environments have gotten so bad that You Need Help!
I will say, however, there's an interesting new breed of editors that are halfway between "text editors" and IDEs. TextMate is absfab on the mac, and the jedit program is getting lots of love.
-- Owen
On Mar 12, 2010, at 7:00 PM, Douglas Roberts wrote:
Well, yes, as a matter of fact. But I didn't want to resurrect any old editor wars. I've lived inside Emacs-based development/debugging environments for a couple of decades. Scary, no?
--Doug
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