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Re: Games!

Curt McNamara

http://www.onlinecolleges.net/50-great-sites-for-serious-educational-games/

http://www.forbes.com/sites/danieltack/2013/09/12/serious-games-and-the-future-of-education/

    Curt

On Jul 7, 2015 12:38 PM, "Gillian Densmore" <[hidden email]> wrote:
@Cody As to video games, I submit they're somewhat useful or at least can be depending on what you consider useful of course. SimCity (for example), EverQuest(was is/was) believe it or not used in Leadership, and Project Management courses-basicly build a city and what do you do when something goes wrong.
if I recall someone years ago from someone Orion Games talked at the Complex showing real world examples of fire-fighters, and pilots used  Flight sims to help with training.


World of Warcraft and other Massive Online Sims (or MMO/ MMORPG/ MMOAs) are often used as part of "humanistic design"  resliance studies, leadership studies as well because you are in a group. How do you have to take criticism. How do you handle it? Can you get a group together?  etc. I am unclear how useful those life skills are, but leadership skills and someway to be somewhat self reliant and managing tasks is likely at least somewhat useful in day-to-day life.






On Tue, Jul 7, 2015 at 9:43 AM, Marcus Daniels <[hidden email]> wrote:
Yup, one of the arguments in the list of reasons-gaming-is-good TED talks was that they can be engaging as an educational tool.

But you're clearly just trying to horrify me now.    :-)

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Sent: Tuesday, July 07, 2015 8:53 AM
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Heh, as if the argument weren't absurd enough already, there's this:

   Is Facebook the next frontier for online learning?
   http://msutoday.msu.edu/news/2015/is-facebook-the-next-frontier-for-online-learning/

I try to avoid facebook, despite my omnivorism.  But "when in Rome"...

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Re: Games!

Curt McNamara

On Tue, Jul 7, 2015 at 12:55 PM, Curt McNamara <[hidden email]> wrote:

http://www.onlinecolleges.net/50-great-sites-for-serious-educational-games/

http://www.forbes.com/sites/danieltack/2013/09/12/serious-games-and-the-future-of-education/

    Curt

On Jul 7, 2015 12:38 PM, "Gillian Densmore" <[hidden email]> wrote:
@Cody As to video games, I submit they're somewhat useful or at least can be depending on what you consider useful of course. SimCity (for example), EverQuest(was is/was) believe it or not used in Leadership, and Project Management courses-basicly build a city and what do you do when something goes wrong.
if I recall someone years ago from someone Orion Games talked at the Complex showing real world examples of fire-fighters, and pilots used  Flight sims to help with training.


World of Warcraft and other Massive Online Sims (or MMO/ MMORPG/ MMOAs) are often used as part of "humanistic design"  resliance studies, leadership studies as well because you are in a group. How do you have to take criticism. How do you handle it? Can you get a group together?  etc. I am unclear how useful those life skills are, but leadership skills and someway to be somewhat self reliant and managing tasks is likely at least somewhat useful in day-to-day life.






On Tue, Jul 7, 2015 at 9:43 AM, Marcus Daniels <[hidden email]> wrote:
Yup, one of the arguments in the list of reasons-gaming-is-good TED talks was that they can be engaging as an educational tool.

But you're clearly just trying to horrify me now.    :-)

-----Original Message-----
From: Friam [mailto:[hidden email]] On Behalf Of glen
Sent: Tuesday, July 07, 2015 8:53 AM
To: The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group
Subject: Re: [FRIAM] DOH!


Heh, as if the argument weren't absurd enough already, there's this:

   Is Facebook the next frontier for online learning?
   http://msutoday.msu.edu/news/2015/is-facebook-the-next-frontier-for-online-learning/

I try to avoid facebook, despite my omnivorism.  But "when in Rome"...

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I got my face in the furnace, I got my snake in a sleeve


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Re: Games!

cody dooderson
I played 2 of those games on the first list, 3rd World Farmer and Stop Disasters. They were actually pretty entertaining. 3rd world farmer is like Oregon trail. You think everything is going fine until someone in your family gets the measles and your shed burns with your chickens inside, ughh.
It will take a long time to get through that list. Marcos Lopez says eve-online is spread sheets in space. Maybe i'll pass on that one. 

Cody Smith

On Thu, Jul 16, 2015 at 10:00 PM, Curt McNamara <[hidden email]> wrote:

On Tue, Jul 7, 2015 at 12:55 PM, Curt McNamara <[hidden email]> wrote:

http://www.onlinecolleges.net/50-great-sites-for-serious-educational-games/

http://www.forbes.com/sites/danieltack/2013/09/12/serious-games-and-the-future-of-education/

    Curt

On Jul 7, 2015 12:38 PM, "Gillian Densmore" <[hidden email]> wrote:
@Cody As to video games, I submit they're somewhat useful or at least can be depending on what you consider useful of course. SimCity (for example), EverQuest(was is/was) believe it or not used in Leadership, and Project Management courses-basicly build a city and what do you do when something goes wrong.
if I recall someone years ago from someone Orion Games talked at the Complex showing real world examples of fire-fighters, and pilots used  Flight sims to help with training.


World of Warcraft and other Massive Online Sims (or MMO/ MMORPG/ MMOAs) are often used as part of "humanistic design"  resliance studies, leadership studies as well because you are in a group. How do you have to take criticism. How do you handle it? Can you get a group together?  etc. I am unclear how useful those life skills are, but leadership skills and someway to be somewhat self reliant and managing tasks is likely at least somewhat useful in day-to-day life.






On Tue, Jul 7, 2015 at 9:43 AM, Marcus Daniels <[hidden email]> wrote:
Yup, one of the arguments in the list of reasons-gaming-is-good TED talks was that they can be engaging as an educational tool.

But you're clearly just trying to horrify me now.    :-)

-----Original Message-----
From: Friam [mailto:[hidden email]] On Behalf Of glen
Sent: Tuesday, July 07, 2015 8:53 AM
To: The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group
Subject: Re: [FRIAM] DOH!


Heh, as if the argument weren't absurd enough already, there's this:

   Is Facebook the next frontier for online learning?
   http://msutoday.msu.edu/news/2015/is-facebook-the-next-frontier-for-online-learning/

I try to avoid facebook, despite my omnivorism.  But "when in Rome"...

--
⇒⇐ glen e. p. ropella
I got my face in the furnace, I got my snake in a sleeve


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Re: [EXTERNAL] Games!

Parks, Raymond
Eve-online is pirates, investment bankers, corporate raiders, spies, and arbitrage in space.  If you aren't part of a guild/country/group, you're a victim.

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On Jul 17, 2015, at 9:29 AM, cody dooderson wrote:

I played 2 of those games on the first list, 3rd World Farmer and Stop Disasters. They were actually pretty entertaining. 3rd world farmer is like Oregon trail. You think everything is going fine until someone in your family gets the measles and your shed burns with your chickens inside, ughh.
It will take a long time to get through that list. Marcos Lopez says eve-online is spread sheets in space. Maybe i'll pass on that one. 

Cody Smith

On Thu, Jul 16, 2015 at 10:00 PM, Curt McNamara <[hidden email]> wrote:

On Tue, Jul 7, 2015 at 12:55 PM, Curt McNamara <[hidden email]> wrote:

http://www.onlinecolleges.net/50-great-sites-for-serious-educational-games/

http://www.forbes.com/sites/danieltack/2013/09/12/serious-games-and-the-future-of-education/

    Curt

On Jul 7, 2015 12:38 PM, "Gillian Densmore" <[hidden email]> wrote:
@Cody As to video games, I submit they're somewhat useful or at least can be depending on what you consider useful of course. SimCity (for example), EverQuest(was is/was) believe it or not used in Leadership, and Project Management courses-basicly build a city and what do you do when something goes wrong.
if I recall someone years ago from someone Orion Games talked at the Complex showing real world examples of fire-fighters, and pilots used  Flight sims to help with training.


World of Warcraft and other Massive Online Sims (or MMO/ MMORPG/ MMOAs) are often used as part of "humanistic design"  resliance studies, leadership studies as well because you are in a group. How do you have to take criticism. How do you handle it? Can you get a group together?  etc. I am unclear how useful those life skills are, but leadership skills and someway to be somewhat self reliant and managing tasks is likely at least somewhat useful in day-to-day life.






On Tue, Jul 7, 2015 at 9:43 AM, Marcus Daniels <[hidden email]> wrote:
Yup, one of the arguments in the list of reasons-gaming-is-good TED talks was that they can be engaging as an educational tool.

But you're clearly just trying to horrify me now.    :-)

-----Original Message-----
From: Friam [mailto:[hidden email]] On Behalf Of glen
Sent: Tuesday, July 07, 2015 8:53 AM
To: The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group
Subject: Re: [FRIAM] DOH!


Heh, as if the argument weren't absurd enough already, there's this:

   Is Facebook the next frontier for online learning?
   http://msutoday.msu.edu/news/2015/is-facebook-the-next-frontier-for-online-learning/

I try to avoid facebook, despite my omnivorism.  But "when in Rome"...

--
⇒⇐ glen e. p. ropella
I got my face in the furnace, I got my snake in a sleeve


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