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Re: Friam Digest, Vol 177, Issue 4

We could always use Git.

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1. Discussion Boards (Nick Thompson)
2. Re: Discussion Boards (Gary Schiltz)
3. Re: Discussion Boards (Gillian Densmore)
4. Re: Discussion Boards (Gillian Densmore)
5. Re: Discussion Boards (Nick Thompson)
6. Re: Discussion Boards (Sarbajit Roy)
7. Re: Discussion Boards (Roger Critchlow)

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From: Nick Thompson <[hidden email]>
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Date: Sun, 11 Mar 2018 18:53:17 -0600
Subject: [FRIAM] Discussion Boards
Dear Colleagues,

I am about to be exiled again to the Mosquito Infested Bog, this time for a whole six months. In an effort to retain my sanity, I am thinking of starting an online reading group on Peirce or related topics with a view to future collaborative writing. Does anybody know of an internet discussion utility which faithfully preserves the ORDER of communication? This would mean at least that the most recent communications on each thread would be at the bottom of the list.

Thanks for any suggestions.

Nick

Nicholas S. Thompson
Emeritus Professor of Psychology and Biology
Clark University
http://home.earthlink.net/~nickthompson/naturaldesigns/

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From: Gary Schiltz <[hidden email]>
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Date: Sun, 11 Mar 2018 20:18:54 -0500
Subject: Re: [FRIAM] Discussion Boards
I haven't created a group on it, but I do like using Google Groups.
The list of threads is reverse chronological order, but within a
thread is ascending by date. You have to have a Google account, but
signup is free. I've been a Google fan since before it got to be the
new 800 pound gorilla.

On Sun, Mar 11, 2018 at 7:53 PM, Nick Thompson
<[hidden email]> wrote:
> Dear Colleagues,
>
>
>
> I am about to be exiled again to the Mosquito Infested Bog, this time for a
> whole six months. In an effort to retain my sanity, I am thinking of
> starting an online reading group on Peirce or related topics with a view to
> future collaborative writing. Does anybody know of an internet discussion
> utility which faithfully preserves the ORDER of communication? This would
> mean at least that the most recent communications on each thread would be
> at the bottom of the list.
>
>
>
> Thanks for any suggestions.
>
>
>
> Nick
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> Nicholas S. Thompson
>
> Emeritus Professor of Psychology and Biology
>
> Clark University
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> http://home.earthlink.net/~nickthompson/naturaldesigns/
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Date: Sun, 11 Mar 2018 19:31:36 -0600
Subject: Re: [FRIAM] Discussion Boards
Hopefully it works out for you. As to forum software.I've also had hit and mis for that. As fellow regular joe I found for just chatting about things Wordpress.com sometimes works really well The cool thing about that is because it's free and you can try a bunch of different setups if something goes wrong, no worries!
Google groups is kind of a mess and I didn't know it was still around to be honest.
I've found FaceBooks groups work well. lol though I humoursly point out that also comes with all the weird stuff of facebook and you need to invite someone to get them started.

It'll come down to what you like more though. Wordpress.com is free you instead of posting rants and raves (like I do one place) to it post stuff about what you've read

Their's also goodreads. I simply don't know if you can still make a group their or not.

Just some ideas from one everyday joe to another.

On Sun, Mar 11, 2018 at 6:53 PM, Nick Thompson <[hidden email]> wrote:
Dear Colleagues,

I am about to be exiled again to the Mosquito Infested Bog, this time for a whole six months. In an effort to retain my sanity, I am thinking of starting an online reading group on Peirce or related topics with a view to future collaborative writing. Does anybody know of an internet discussion utility which faithfully preserves the ORDER of communication? This would mean at least that the most recent communications on each thread would be at the bottom of the list.

Thanks for any suggestions.

Nick

Nicholas S. Thompson
Emeritus Professor of Psychology and Biology
Clark University
http://home.earthlink.net/~nickthompson/naturaldesigns/

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Date: Sun, 11 Mar 2018 19:44:37 -0600
Subject: Re: [FRIAM] Discussion Boards
Nick a few others: I haven't used some. they say they're free.so if they suck no bigy.

http://www.zetaboards.com/

https://www.proboards.com/

https://www.quora.com/What-is-the-best-free-hosted-forum-service

Oh here we go! see if one of these is one you enjoy using. I haven't used some of them. A while back I briefly messed around some with Forumotion. I have no idea what it's like now. At that time it had some super fun colors and just fun to mess around with. I simply don't know what it's like now or if it's still free.

lol if nothing else nick you can safely say: egad. I have more options than I know what to do with.

On Sun, Mar 11, 2018 at 6:53 PM, Nick Thompson <[hidden email]> wrote:
Dear Colleagues,

I am about to be exiled again to the Mosquito Infested Bog, this time for a whole six months. In an effort to retain my sanity, I am thinking of starting an online reading group on Peirce or related topics with a view to future collaborative writing. Does anybody know of an internet discussion utility which faithfully preserves the ORDER of communication? This would mean at least that the most recent communications on each thread would be at the bottom of the list.

Thanks for any suggestions.

Nick

Nicholas S. Thompson
Emeritus Professor of Psychology and Biology
Clark University
http://home.earthlink.net/~nickthompson/naturaldesigns/

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Date: Sun, 11 Mar 2018 20:58:27 -0600
Subject: Re: [FRIAM] Discussion Boards
Thanks, everybody. I will look into all of these. I used GG for several years, but they seemed to stop supporting it, and I am surprised to learn that it still exists. Sounds like nobody has conquered the chronology problem. I spent one entire month two years ago trying to write a macro in Word that would reorder posts in chronological order, but never succeeded. One of the worst impediments was my own practice of “larding” other people’s posts.

Thanks again, everybody,

Nick

Nicholas S. Thompson
Emeritus Professor of Psychology and Biology
Clark University
http://home.earthlink.net/~nickthompson/naturaldesigns/

From: Friam [mailto:[hidden email]] On Behalf Of Gillian Densmore
Sent: Sunday, March 11, 2018 7:32 PM
To: The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group <[hidden email]>
Subject: Re: [FRIAM] Discussion Boards

Hopefully it works out for you. As to forum software.I've also had hit and mis for that. As fellow regular joe I found for just chatting about things Wordpress.com sometimes works really well The cool thing about that is because it's free and you can try a bunch of different setups if something goes wrong, no worries!
Google groups is kind of a mess and I didn't know it was still around to be honest.
I've found FaceBooks groups work well. lol though I humoursly point out that also comes with all the weird stuff of facebook and you need to invite someone to get them started.
It'll come down to what you like more though. Wordpress.com is free you instead of posting rants and raves (like I do one place) to it post stuff about what you've read
Their's also goodreads. I simply don't know if you can still make a group their or not.
Just some ideas from one everyday joe to another.

On Sun, Mar 11, 2018 at 6:53 PM, Nick Thompson <[hidden email]> wrote:
Dear Colleagues,

I am about to be exiled again to the Mosquito Infested Bog, this time for a whole six months. In an effort to retain my sanity, I am thinking of starting an online reading group on Peirce or related topics with a view to future collaborative writing. Does anybody know of an internet discussion utility which faithfully preserves the ORDER of communication? This would mean at least that the most recent communications on each thread would be at the bottom of the list.

Thanks for any suggestions.

Nick

Nicholas S. Thompson
Emeritus Professor of Psychology and Biology
Clark University
http://home.earthlink.net/~nickthompson/naturaldesigns/

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Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2018 11:31:23 +0530
Subject: Re: [FRIAM] Discussion Boards
AVOID proboards.com

They take down fora without any warning or reason under their infamous clause 25(a) and they never ever restore a board, so all your work just vanishes.

On Mon, Mar 12, 2018 at 8:28 AM, Nick Thompson <[hidden email]> wrote:
Thanks, everybody. I will look into all of these. I used GG for several years, but they seemed to stop supporting it, and I am surprised to learn that it still exists. Sounds like nobody has conquered the chronology problem. I spent one entire month two years ago trying to write a macro in Word that would reorder posts in chronological order, but never succeeded. One of the worst impediments was my own practice of “larding” other people’s posts.

Thanks again, everybody,

Nick

Nicholas S. Thompson
Emeritus Professor of Psychology and Biology
Clark University
http://home.earthlink.net/~nickthompson/naturaldesigns/

From: Friam [mailto:[hidden email]] On Behalf Of Gillian Densmore
Sent: Sunday, March 11, 2018 7:32 PM
To: The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group <[hidden email]>
Subject: Re: [FRIAM] Discussion Boards

Hopefully it works out for you. As to forum software.I've also had hit and mis for that. As fellow regular joe I found for just chatting about things Wordpress.com sometimes works really well The cool thing about that is because it's free and you can try a bunch of different setups if something goes wrong, no worries!
Google groups is kind of a mess and I didn't know it was still around to be honest.
I've found FaceBooks groups work well. lol though I humoursly point out that also comes with all the weird stuff of facebook and you need to invite someone to get them started.
It'll come down to what you like more though. Wordpress.com is free you instead of posting rants and raves (like I do one place) to it post stuff about what you've read
Their's also goodreads. I simply don't know if you can still make a group their or not.
Just some ideas from one everyday joe to another.

On Sun, Mar 11, 2018 at 6:53 PM, Nick Thompson <[hidden email]> wrote:
Dear Colleagues,

I am about to be exiled again to the Mosquito Infested Bog, this time for a whole six months. In an effort to retain my sanity, I am thinking of starting an online reading group on Peirce or related topics with a view to future collaborative writing. Does anybody know of an internet discussion utility which faithfully preserves the ORDER of communication? This would mean at least that the most recent communications on each thread would be at the bottom of the list.

Thanks for any suggestions.

Nick

Nicholas S. Thompson
Emeritus Professor of Psychology and Biology
Clark University
http://home.earthlink.net/~nickthompson/naturaldesigns/

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From: Roger Critchlow <[hidden email]>
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Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2018 07:38:37 -0400
Subject: Re: [FRIAM] Discussion Boards
The services at https://groups.io/ were recently recommended by people ubhappy with yahoo and google.

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On Mon, Mar 12, 2018 at 2:01 AM, Sarbajit Roy <[hidden email]> wrote:
AVOID proboards.com

They take down fora without any warning or reason under their infamous clause 25(a) and they never ever restore a board, so all your work just vanishes.

On Mon, Mar 12, 2018 at 8:28 AM, Nick Thompson <[hidden email]> wrote:
Thanks, everybody. I will look into all of these. I used GG for several years, but they seemed to stop supporting it, and I am surprised to learn that it still exists. Sounds like nobody has conquered the chronology problem. I spent one entire month two years ago trying to write a macro in Word that would reorder posts in chronological order, but never succeeded. One of the worst impediments was my own practice of “larding” other people’s posts.

Thanks again, everybody,

Nick

Nicholas S. Thompson
Emeritus Professor of Psychology and Biology
Clark University
http://home.earthlink.net/~nickthompson/naturaldesigns/

From: Friam [mailto:[hidden email]] On Behalf Of Gillian Densmore
Sent: Sunday, March 11, 2018 7:32 PM
To: The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group <[hidden email]>
Subject: Re: [FRIAM] Discussion Boards

Hopefully it works out for you. As to forum software.I've also had hit and mis for that. As fellow regular joe I found for just chatting about things Wordpress.com sometimes works really well The cool thing about that is because it's free and you can try a bunch of different setups if something goes wrong, no worries!
Google groups is kind of a mess and I didn't know it was still around to be honest.
I've found FaceBooks groups work well. lol though I humoursly point out that also comes with all the weird stuff of facebook and you need to invite someone to get them started.
It'll come down to what you like more though. Wordpress.com is free you instead of posting rants and raves (like I do one place) to it post stuff about what you've read
Their's also goodreads. I simply don't know if you can still make a group their or not.
Just some ideas from one everyday joe to another.

On Sun, Mar 11, 2018 at 6:53 PM, Nick Thompson <[hidden email]> wrote:
Dear Colleagues,

I am about to be exiled again to the Mosquito Infested Bog, this time for a whole six months. In an effort to retain my sanity, I am thinking of starting an online reading group on Peirce or related topics with a view to future collaborative writing. Does anybody know of an internet discussion utility which faithfully preserves the ORDER of communication? This would mean at least that the most recent communications on each thread would be at the bottom of the list.

Thanks for any suggestions.

Nick

Nicholas S. Thompson
Emeritus Professor of Psychology and Biology
Clark University
http://home.earthlink.net/~nickthompson/naturaldesigns/

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Re: Friam Digest, Vol 177, Issue 4

On 03/12/2018 09:41 AM, Jon Zingale wrote:
> We could always use Git.

+1

Which broaches the idea that what Nick wants is *not* a tool like a software program. What he wants is a *policy* or community standard behavior for his participants. Collaborative writing is nothing like a forum and vice versa. Git's great for collaborative writing, but is oriented to change-tracking, not the preservation of sequential, whole works. So, what Nick is really asking for is a project manager, not a piece of software.

Technology does not solve problems.

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