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Ok STEM folks, explain?

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This is local in Santa Fe (Arroyo Chamiso bike trail I think near Chavez center).  Non-flash-flood sandy base is normally flat, about 2 pct grade maybe 4-5 feet below trail.  What is the frequency and how does this occur?  Why is this happening next to the path and not out in the middle of the arroyo?

Solitons?  Skipping stones?  What?

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Sorry try this....

On Wed, Jul 25, 2018, 00:17 Carl Tollander <[hidden email]> wrote:

This is local in Santa Fe (Arroyo Chamiso bike trail I think near Chavez center).  Non-flash-flood sandy base is normally flat, about 2 pct grade maybe 4-5 feet below trail.  What is the frequency and how does this occur?  Why is this happening next to the path and not out in the middle of the arroyo?

Solitons?  Skipping stones?  What?

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For those who already abandoned facebook I think this is the same video from youtube https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HG_K1sIVmLI
and I include a couple impressive videos https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ecVouNETYaI  and https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R8ASTkSYXfA and there are several posts of these recent floods in youtube

Look out right there. Is it normal in Santa Fe? Must ask climate change deniers what is going on.

On Wed, Jul 25, 2018 at 1:23 AM, Carl Tollander <[hidden email]> wrote:
Sorry try this....


On Wed, Jul 25, 2018, 00:17 Carl Tollander <[hidden email]> wrote:

This is local in Santa Fe (Arroyo Chamiso bike trail I think near Chavez center).  Non-flash-flood sandy base is normally flat, about 2 pct grade maybe 4-5 feet below trail.  What is the frequency and how does this occur?  Why is this happening next to the path and not out in the middle of the arroyo?

Solitons?  Skipping stones?  What?

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Looks like the Loch Ness Monster traveled up the Rio Grande, the Santa Fe River into Arroyo Chamiso?

I have an arroyo behind my house in San Ildefonso which is also wide and flat which had this behaviour a few years ago during a flash flood.  6' tall standing waves for a good 30 minutes.  


On 7/25/18 4:07 AM, Alfredo Covaleda Vélez wrote:
For those who already abandoned facebook I think this is the same video from youtube https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HG_K1sIVmLI
and I include a couple impressive videos https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ecVouNETYaI  and https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R8ASTkSYXfA and there are several posts of these recent floods in youtube

Look out right there. Is it normal in Santa Fe? Must ask climate change deniers what is going on.

On Wed, Jul 25, 2018 at 1:23 AM, Carl Tollander <[hidden email]> wrote:
Sorry try this....


On Wed, Jul 25, 2018, 00:17 Carl Tollander <[hidden email]> wrote:

This is local in Santa Fe (Arroyo Chamiso bike trail I think near Chavez center).  Non-flash-flood sandy base is normally flat, about 2 pct grade maybe 4-5 feet below trail.  What is the frequency and how does this occur?  Why is this happening next to the path and not out in the middle of the arroyo?

Solitons?  Skipping stones?  What?

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Steve,

 

I Hywel’s absence, I will take up his cudgel:

 

“Steve.  If this is not random, what does random look like? “

 

Nick

 

Nicholas S. Thompson

Emeritus Professor of Psychology and Biology

Clark University

http://home.earthlink.net/~nickthompson/naturaldesigns/

 

From: Friam [mailto:[hidden email]] On Behalf Of Steven A Smith
Sent: Wednesday, July 25, 2018 8:16 AM
To: [hidden email]
Subject: Re: [FRIAM] Ok STEM folks, explain?

 

Looks like the Loch Ness Monster traveled up the Rio Grande, the Santa Fe River into Arroyo Chamiso?

I have an arroyo behind my house in San Ildefonso which is also wide and flat which had this behaviour a few years ago during a flash flood.  6' tall standing waves for a good 30 minutes.  

 

On 7/25/18 4:07 AM, Alfredo Covaleda Vélez wrote:

For those who already abandoned facebook I think this is the same video from youtube https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HG_K1sIVmLI
and I include a couple impressive videos https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ecVouNETYaI  and https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R8ASTkSYXfA and there are several posts of these recent floods in youtube

Look out right there. Is it normal in Santa Fe? Must ask climate change deniers what is going on.

 

On Wed, Jul 25, 2018 at 1:23 AM, Carl Tollander <[hidden email]> wrote:

Sorry try this....

 

On Wed, Jul 25, 2018, 00:17 Carl Tollander <[hidden email]> wrote:

 

This is local in Santa Fe (Arroyo Chamiso bike trail I think near Chavez center).  Non-flash-flood sandy base is normally flat, about 2 pct grade maybe 4-5 feet below trail.  What is the frequency and how does this occur?  Why is this happening next to the path and not out in the middle of the arroyo?

 

Solitons?  Skipping stones?  What?

 

We live here; we should know this stuff.

 

 

 

 

 


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Frank Wimberly-2
That has a lot of predictable structure.  Not random.


On Wed, Jul 25, 2018, 8:23 AM Nick Thompson <[hidden email]> wrote:

Steve,

 

I Hywel’s absence, I will take up his cudgel:

 

“Steve.  If this is not random, what does random look like? “

 

Nick

 

Nicholas S. Thompson

Emeritus Professor of Psychology and Biology

Clark University

http://home.earthlink.net/~nickthompson/naturaldesigns/

 

From: Friam [mailto:[hidden email]] On Behalf Of Steven A Smith
Sent: Wednesday, July 25, 2018 8:16 AM
To: [hidden email]
Subject: Re: [FRIAM] Ok STEM folks, explain?

 

Looks like the Loch Ness Monster traveled up the Rio Grande, the Santa Fe River into Arroyo Chamiso?

I have an arroyo behind my house in San Ildefonso which is also wide and flat which had this behaviour a few years ago during a flash flood.  6' tall standing waves for a good 30 minutes.  

 

On 7/25/18 4:07 AM, Alfredo Covaleda Vélez wrote:

For those who already abandoned facebook I think this is the same video from youtube https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HG_K1sIVmLI
and I include a couple impressive videos https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ecVouNETYaI  and https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R8ASTkSYXfA and there are several posts of these recent floods in youtube

Look out right there. Is it normal in Santa Fe? Must ask climate change deniers what is going on.

 

On Wed, Jul 25, 2018 at 1:23 AM, Carl Tollander <[hidden email]> wrote:

Sorry try this....

 

On Wed, Jul 25, 2018, 00:17 Carl Tollander <[hidden email]> wrote:

 

This is local in Santa Fe (Arroyo Chamiso bike trail I think near Chavez center).  Non-flash-flood sandy base is normally flat, about 2 pct grade maybe 4-5 feet below trail.  What is the frequency and how does this occur?  Why is this happening next to the path and not out in the middle of the arroyo?

 

Solitons?  Skipping stones?  What?

 

We live here; we should know this stuff.

 

 

 

 

 


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On Wed, Jul 25, 2018 at 1:21 PM, Frank Wimberly <[hidden email]> wrote:
That has a lot of predictable structure.  Not random.


On Wed, Jul 25, 2018, 8:23 AM Nick Thompson <[hidden email]> wrote:

Steve,

 

I Hywel’s absence, I will take up his cudgel:

 

“Steve.  If this is not random, what does random look like? “

 

Nick

 

Nicholas S. Thompson

Emeritus Professor of Psychology and Biology

Clark University

http://home.earthlink.net/~nickthompson/naturaldesigns/

 

From: Friam [mailto:[hidden email]] On Behalf Of Steven A Smith
Sent: Wednesday, July 25, 2018 8:16 AM
To: [hidden email]
Subject: Re: [FRIAM] Ok STEM folks, explain?

 

Looks like the Loch Ness Monster traveled up the Rio Grande, the Santa Fe River into Arroyo Chamiso?

I have an arroyo behind my house in San Ildefonso which is also wide and flat which had this behaviour a few years ago during a flash flood.  6' tall standing waves for a good 30 minutes.  

 

On 7/25/18 4:07 AM, Alfredo Covaleda Vélez wrote:

For those who already abandoned facebook I think this is the same video from youtube https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HG_K1sIVmLI
and I include a couple impressive videos https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ecVouNETYaI  and https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R8ASTkSYXfA and there are several posts of these recent floods in youtube

Look out right there. Is it normal in Santa Fe? Must ask climate change deniers what is going on.

 

On Wed, Jul 25, 2018 at 1:23 AM, Carl Tollander <[hidden email]> wrote:

Sorry try this....

 

On Wed, Jul 25, 2018, 00:17 Carl Tollander <[hidden email]> wrote:

 

This is local in Santa Fe (Arroyo Chamiso bike trail I think near Chavez center).  Non-flash-flood sandy base is normally flat, about 2 pct grade maybe 4-5 feet below trail.  What is the frequency and how does this occur?  Why is this happening next to the path and not out in the middle of the arroyo?

 

Solitons?  Skipping stones?  What?

 

We live here; we should know this stuff.

 

 

 

 

 


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Hi frank,

 

Forgive me for poaching Hywel’s shot.

 

I guess he would have said, “In time, this flood will fade into the background noise of geological history.”  Or am I wrong about that.    Here! Here’s the cudgel.  You take a whack at it. 

 

By the way, we’ve had six inches of rain since the beginning of July.  No record-making event, to be sure, but it is interesting that it’s happening both there and here.  Usually, the country is a seesaw. 

 

Nick

 

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From: Friam [mailto:[hidden email]] On Behalf Of Frank Wimberly
Sent: Wednesday, July 25, 2018 2:21 PM
To: The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group <[hidden email]>
Subject: Re: [FRIAM] Ok STEM folks, explain?

 

That has a lot of predictable structure.  Not random.

 

On Wed, Jul 25, 2018, 8:23 AM Nick Thompson <[hidden email]> wrote:

Steve,

 

I Hywel’s absence, I will take up his cudgel:

 

“Steve.  If this is not random, what does random look like? “

 

Nick

 

Nicholas S. Thompson

Emeritus Professor of Psychology and Biology

Clark University

http://home.earthlink.net/~nickthompson/naturaldesigns/

 

From: Friam [mailto:[hidden email]] On Behalf Of Steven A Smith
Sent: Wednesday, July 25, 2018 8:16 AM
To: [hidden email]
Subject: Re: [FRIAM] Ok STEM folks, explain?

 

Looks like the Loch Ness Monster traveled up the Rio Grande, the Santa Fe River into Arroyo Chamiso?

I have an arroyo behind my house in San Ildefonso which is also wide and flat which had this behaviour a few years ago during a flash flood.  6' tall standing waves for a good 30 minutes.  

 

On 7/25/18 4:07 AM, Alfredo Covaleda Vélez wrote:

For those who already abandoned facebook I think this is the same video from youtube https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HG_K1sIVmLI
and I include a couple impressive videos https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ecVouNETYaI  and https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R8ASTkSYXfA and there are several posts of these recent floods in youtube

Look out right there. Is it normal in Santa Fe? Must ask climate change deniers what is going on.

 

On Wed, Jul 25, 2018 at 1:23 AM, Carl Tollander <[hidden email]> wrote:

Sorry try this....

 

On Wed, Jul 25, 2018, 00:17 Carl Tollander <[hidden email]> wrote:

 

This is local in Santa Fe (Arroyo Chamiso bike trail I think near Chavez center).  Non-flash-flood sandy base is normally flat, about 2 pct grade maybe 4-5 feet below trail.  What is the frequency and how does this occur?  Why is this happening next to the path and not out in the middle of the arroyo?

 

Solitons?  Skipping stones?  What?

 

We live here; we should know this stuff.

 

 

 

 

 


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