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I think this guy pretty well nailed it. So what can we do? http://chriscervini.com/2014/04/01/oh-sad-new-mexico-we-love-we-love-you-so/ =================================== ============================================================ FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv Meets Fridays 9a-11:30 at cafe at St. John's College to unsubscribe http://redfish.com/mailman/listinfo/friam_redfish.com |
Re: Oh, sad New Mexico, we love, we love you so | Chris Cervini
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Holy Cow! Nailed it. -- Owen On Sat, Apr 5, 2014 at 9:47 AM, Tom Johnson <[hidden email]> wrote:
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Damn.
Yep. Tory On Apr 5, 2014, at 10:02 AM, Owen Densmore <[hidden email]> wrote:
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In reply to this post by Owen Densmore
I suppose "what can we do" is to choose an oar and pull. Richard's 1st mile is a good oar. I'm not sure what he needs beyond his great list, along with some financial backing. Possibly a KickStarter?
The Santa Fe Complex was given the charter of economic development. But the metrics the city used for that were poor and short sighted. If you look back, at least 30% of the folks who were there 3 days/week and collaborating with others to widen their skills, are now successful. That's the good news. The bad is that most are now gone.
Why did their success drive them out? As the article sez, they had no place to go with their new, improved skills. In other words, the gvt got it wrong, economic development can't be completely solved by SFX and the like. It need further growth for the small businesses spawned by SFX, or companies that are larger and can hire them.
Do you remember the Angelou Plan which the city paid for? Beyond his starting his initial review with "You realize of course that your City Council is dysfunctional.", he had several great points, one of which is the lack of a "youth culture". Basically we're forcing our kids out of town, and/or not making it pleasant for them to come to town.
I could go on, but between SFX and Angelou, the city got the truth and decided against it.
-- Owen
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As one of the deserters myself, I really don’t have the right to comment, but NM was a special place for me for the 9 years I was there (1999-2008). It certainly wasn’t easy (5 jobs over 9 years), but in retrospect, it was worth it. I admire those of you who are hanging in there and pulling on those oars.
;; Gary On Apr 5, 2014, at 11:26 AM, Owen Densmore <[hidden email]> wrote: > I suppose "what can we do" is to choose an oar and pull. ============================================================ FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv Meets Fridays 9a-11:30 at cafe at St. John's College to unsubscribe http://redfish.com/mailman/listinfo/friam_redfish.com |
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In reply to this post by Tom Johnson
OK, I'm going to disagree with some of the article and the
associated comments.
First, a few words from Bruce Sterling: "A small, beautiful modest, hand-crafted society, living in harmony with its eco-region, relentlessly parsimonious in it's use of energy and resources, can't learn enough about itself to survive." How many of us came here with some romantic notion of those first 4 lines, at least somewhere in the back of our heads? I suggest that a significant part of the problems are that we see New Mexico as apart from the rest of the world, geographically and culturally. And yet our proposed solutions are in many respects, the solutions for which other areas have a large head start. Human development funds? Diversify the energy economy? Invest in early childhood? Broadband? Let's say you spiff all that up by 25%. What do you get? The state still has a small population so percentage increases are still not going to make us more competitive with states with larger populations than Rhode Island. I've actually thought a bit about #5: "Make Native Americans and traditional Hispanic communities part of the solution.Well, hmmm. My first reaction was, I think the author needs to get out more. My own sense is that traditions are indeed conversations. If we stop isolating the people but isolate the traditions, community activity turns to mining, casinos, shopping centers, or high-end craft with cultural themes for the wealthy tourists from Dallas. All very well, people gotta eat and of course there is plenty of well-earned guilt for history to be flogged on all sides. However, here is a seed. These things we think of as desirable for development arise from our experiences outside of NM. We can leverage our large reserves and small population and bring things back and make them our own in our own way. Let's institutionalize getting out more. A lot more. For everybody. The more alien to what you know the better. Go to Sweden, India, Japan, Africa. I propose that we work to ensure that every citizen of the state has the incentive and opportunity to spend travel time in a culture not their own, and to actively welcome people from other cultures to NM.There would of course be many ways to set this up using said reserves, as well as many obstacles. There do not initially seem to be ways to quantify the results. Not everybody will want to go. Some folks won't come back. But the intensive exchange of ideas, techniques, new ways of doing things in a place where you can still see the stars could start to make it that place we imagined it would be. Anybody can do tax incentives, and they do, but few if any could match that ferment with the landscape. People don't come and stay and develop because you have nifty culture. They come and stay and develop because you make nifty culture. Getting out may be the way we learn enough about ourselves as a state to survive. On 4/5/14, 9:47 AM, Tom Johnson wrote:
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