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Nick Thompson

Oh, Gawd!

Here I am asking for your help, again.

EXECUTIVE SUMMARY: Does anybody know of an easy way to recover a defunct website, for the City University of Santa Fe, cusf.org, from the WayBackMachine?

SUPPORTING BLATHER:

As the members of the Mother Church know, The Santa Fe University of Art and Design is collapsing (https://retakeourdemocracy.org/2018/02/11/santa-fe-launches-sf-university-of-art-design-community-input-roundhouse-update-hb-325-chaco-more/ )and leaving behind a white elephant of a campus for the City to develop as it sees fit;. It includes a stunning, state-of-the-art, theatre. There is a process in progress, running over the next few months, to engage the public in development planning.

I have always felt that Santa Fe ought to be a University town. It has great coffee shops, zillions of retired professors, art galleries and performance spaces galore, and a plethora of Institutes and other intellectual organizations which are post graduate institutes in all but name. The last time this happened, I was young and idealistic (only 70) and I set about chartering an institution I called the City University of Santa Fe, a membership organization whose job it would be to support the transition of the old College of Santa Fe to a full-fledged University and to use the retired faculty in Santa Fe as a bridging faculty. We had a web page, we ran some seminars, it was fun. In the end, Laureate Industries took over the campus, and it looked like CUSF was unnecessary. But here we are again, and I would like to be able to pass on the charter and the concept to the people who are thinking about the future of the SFUAD campus.

The favor I am asking is as follows. I cannot recover the website. I have been told that there is something called the Way Back Machine that contains old websites. I tried to work with it and I have some evidence that the materials do exist, there, but I could not bring them up. I believe (but am not sure) that it was hosted by GoDaddy or BraveNet and that the site address was cusf.org. Unfortunately, that address has been scooped up twice since by others.

Do any of you know how to make the WayBackMachine hum?

Please be advised , those of you who don’t know me well, that I am the original tar-baby of time wasting, so be careful where you put your first paw.

Nick

Nicholas S. Thompson

Emeritus Professor of Psychology and Biology

Clark University

http://home.earthlink.net/~nickthompson/naturaldesigns/

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Merle Lefkoff-2

Re: Oh, Gawd!

If someone can find the Way Back Machine and recovers Nick's valuable web site, I would very much like to know about that. My Center is partners with a Swedish team working on a project with the Dalai Lama in Dharmsala called "Timeless Knowledge." I'm interested in appropriate technologies in addition to systems science that I can bring to this project before I go to India. At the very least--what a great metaphor!!

On Sun, Feb 11, 2018 at 12:11 PM, Nick Thompson <[hidden email]> wrote:

Here I am asking for your help, again.

EXECUTIVE SUMMARY: Does anybody know of an easy way to recover a defunct website, for the City University of Santa Fe, cusf.org, from the WayBackMachine?

SUPPORTING BLATHER:

As the members of the Mother Church know, The Santa Fe University of Art and Design is collapsing (https://retakeourdemocracy.org/2018/02/11/santa-fe-launches-sf-university-of-art-design-community-input-roundhouse-update-hb-325-chaco-more/ )and leaving behind a white elephant of a campus for the City to develop as it sees fit;. It includes a stunning, state-of-the-art, theatre. There is a process in progress, running over the next few months, to engage the public in development planning.

I have always felt that Santa Fe ought to be a University town. It has great coffee shops, zillions of retired professors, art galleries and performance spaces galore, and a plethora of Institutes and other intellectual organizations which are post graduate institutes in all but name. The last time this happened, I was young and idealistic (only 70) and I set about chartering an institution I called the City University of Santa Fe, a membership organization whose job it would be to support the transition of the old College of Santa Fe to a full-fledged University and to use the retired faculty in Santa Fe as a bridging faculty. We had a web page, we ran some seminars, it was fun. In the end, Laureate Industries took over the campus, and it looked like CUSF was unnecessary. But here we are again, and I would like to be able to pass on the charter and the concept to the people who are thinking about the future of the SFUAD campus.

The favor I am asking is as follows. I cannot recover the website. I have been told that there is something called the Way Back Machine that contains old websites. I tried to work with it and I have some evidence that the materials do exist, there, but I could not bring them up. I believe (but am not sure) that it was hosted by GoDaddy or BraveNet and that the site address was cusf.org. Unfortunately, that address has been scooped up twice since by others.

Do any of you know how to make the WayBackMachine hum?

Please be advised , those of you who don’t know me well, that I am the original tar-baby of time wasting, so be careful where you put your first paw.

Nick

Nicholas S. Thompson
Emeritus Professor of Psychology and Biology
Clark University
http://home.earthlink.net/~nickthompson/naturaldesigns/

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Merle Lefkoff, Ph.D.
President, Center for Emergent Diplomacy
emergentdiplomacy.org

Santa Fe, New Mexico, USA

[hidden email]
mobile: (303) 859-5609
skype: merle.lelfkoff2

twitter: @Merle_Lefkoff

Bob Ballance

Re: Oh, Gawd!

In what time frame was the site active?

. . . Bob

On Feb 11, 2018, at 12:27 PM, Merle Lefkoff <[hidden email]> wrote:

If someone can find the Way Back Machine and recovers Nick's valuable web site, I would very much like to know about that. My Center is partners with a Swedish team working on a project with the Dalai Lama in Dharmsala called "Timeless Knowledge." I'm interested in appropriate technologies in addition to systems science that I can bring to this project before I go to India. At the very least--what a great metaphor!!

On Sun, Feb 11, 2018 at 12:11 PM, Nick Thompson <[hidden email]> wrote:
Here I am asking for your help, again.

EXECUTIVE SUMMARY: Does anybody know of an easy way to recover a defunct website, for the City University of Santa Fe, cusf.org, from the WayBackMachine?

SUPPORTING BLATHER:

As the members of the Mother Church know, The Santa Fe University of Art and Design is collapsing (https://retakeourdemocracy.org/2018/02/11/santa-fe-launches-sf-university-of-art-design-community-input-roundhouse-update-hb-325-chaco-more/ )and leaving behind a white elephant of a campus for the City to develop as it sees fit;. It includes a stunning, state-of-the-art, theatre. There is a process in progress, running over the next few months, to engage the public in development planning.

I have always felt that Santa Fe ought to be a University town. It has great coffee shops, zillions of retired professors, art galleries and performance spaces galore, and a plethora of Institutes and other intellectual organizations which are post graduate institutes in all but name. The last time this happened, I was young and idealistic (only 70) and I set about chartering an institution I called the City University of Santa Fe, a membership organization whose job it would be to support the transition of the old College of Santa Fe to a full-fledged University and to use the retired faculty in Santa Fe as a bridging faculty. We had a web page, we ran some seminars, it was fun. In the end, Laureate Industries took over the campus, and it looked like CUSF was unnecessary. But here we are again, and I would like to be able to pass on the charter and the concept to the people who are thinking about the future of the SFUAD campus.

The favor I am asking is as follows. I cannot recover the website. I have been told that there is something called the Way Back Machine that contains old websites. I tried to work with it and I have some evidence that the materials do exist, there, but I could not bring them up. I believe (but am not sure) that it was hosted by GoDaddy or BraveNet and that the site address was cusf.org. Unfortunately, that address has been scooped up twice since by others.

Do any of you know how to make the WayBackMachine hum?

Please be advised , those of you who don’t know me well, that I am the original tar-baby of time wasting, so be careful where you put your first paw.

Nick

Nicholas S. Thompson
Emeritus Professor of Psychology and Biology
Clark University
http://home.earthlink.net/~nickthompson/naturaldesigns/

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--
Merle Lefkoff, Ph.D.
President, Center for Emergent Diplomacy
emergentdiplomacy.org
Santa Fe, New Mexico, USA
[hidden email]
mobile: (303) 859-5609
skype: merle.lelfkoff2
twitter: @Merle_Lefkoff

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Roger Critchlow-2

Re: Oh, Gawd!

Yes, the earliest archives are for Credit Unions of South Florida, the latest archives are for CU Schools Foundation, haven't found one that is the City University of Santa Fe. Are you sure this was the URL?

-- rec --

On Sun, Feb 11, 2018 at 1:25 PM, Bob Ballance <[hidden email]> wrote:

In what time frame was the site active?

. . . Bob

On Feb 11, 2018, at 12:27 PM, Merle Lefkoff <[hidden email]> wrote:

If someone can find the Way Back Machine and recovers Nick's valuable web site, I would very much like to know about that. My Center is partners with a Swedish team working on a project with the Dalai Lama in Dharmsala called "Timeless Knowledge." I'm interested in appropriate technologies in addition to systems science that I can bring to this project before I go to India. At the very least--what a great metaphor!!

On Sun, Feb 11, 2018 at 12:11 PM, Nick Thompson <[hidden email]> wrote:
Here I am asking for your help, again.

EXECUTIVE SUMMARY: Does anybody know of an easy way to recover a defunct website, for the City University of Santa Fe, cusf.org, from the WayBackMachine?

SUPPORTING BLATHER:

As the members of the Mother Church know, The Santa Fe University of Art and Design is collapsing (https://retakeourdemocracy.org/2018/02/11/santa-fe-launches-sf-university-of-art-design-community-input-roundhouse-update-hb-325-chaco-more/ )and leaving behind a white elephant of a campus for the City to develop as it sees fit;. It includes a stunning, state-of-the-art, theatre. There is a process in progress, running over the next few months, to engage the public in development planning.

I have always felt that Santa Fe ought to be a University town. It has great coffee shops, zillions of retired professors, art galleries and performance spaces galore, and a plethora of Institutes and other intellectual organizations which are post graduate institutes in all but name. The last time this happened, I was young and idealistic (only 70) and I set about chartering an institution I called the City University of Santa Fe, a membership organization whose job it would be to support the transition of the old College of Santa Fe to a full-fledged University and to use the retired faculty in Santa Fe as a bridging faculty. We had a web page, we ran some seminars, it was fun. In the end, Laureate Industries took over the campus, and it looked like CUSF was unnecessary. But here we are again, and I would like to be able to pass on the charter and the concept to the people who are thinking about the future of the SFUAD campus.

The favor I am asking is as follows. I cannot recover the website. I have been told that there is something called the Way Back Machine that contains old websites. I tried to work with it and I have some evidence that the materials do exist, there, but I could not bring them up. I believe (but am not sure) that it was hosted by GoDaddy or BraveNet and that the site address was cusf.org. Unfortunately, that address has been scooped up twice since by others.

Do any of you know how to make the WayBackMachine hum?

Please be advised , those of you who don’t know me well, that I am the original tar-baby of time wasting, so be careful where you put your first paw.

Nick

Nicholas S. Thompson
Emeritus Professor of Psychology and Biology
Clark University
http://home.earthlink.net/~nickthompson/naturaldesigns/

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Merle Lefkoff, Ph.D.
President, Center for Emergent Diplomacy
emergentdiplomacy.org
Santa Fe, New Mexico, USA
[hidden email]
mobile: <a href="tel:(303)%20859-5609" value="+13038595609" target="_blank">(303) 859-5609
skype: merle.lelfkoff2
twitter: @Merle_Lefkoff

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Roger Critchlow-2

Re: Oh, Gawd!

Ah, 2010

https://web.archive.org/web/20100602025557/http://cusf.org

Just run a recursive wget on that url, though that may not work because the referenced urls on the page all point to cusf.jigsy.com, so they will be archived under that url.

Ah, 2011

https://web.archive.org/web/20110816091744/http://cusf.jigsy.com

so run the recursive wget on that url and see what you get.

You get the web.archive.org robots.txt and the cusf.org home page with references to cusf.jigsy.com rewritten to reference the web.archive.org copies.

More searching reveals an open source ruby gem (https://github.com/hartator/wayback_machine_downloader) and http://waybackdownloader.com/ which will do the job for a price.

Here is the homepage in a google doc https://docs.google.com/document/d/1qBwdaV2i5_IW5jAqdRfRGg66R8FA0pafCY8lH8Ru8e4/edit?usp=sharing

-- rec --

On Sun, Feb 11, 2018 at 1:58 PM, Roger Critchlow <[hidden email]> wrote:

Yes, the earliest archives are for Credit Unions of South Florida, the latest archives are for CU Schools Foundation, haven't found one that is the City University of Santa Fe. Are you sure this was the URL?

-- rec --

On Sun, Feb 11, 2018 at 1:25 PM, Bob Ballance <[hidden email]> wrote:
In what time frame was the site active?

. . . Bob

On Feb 11, 2018, at 12:27 PM, Merle Lefkoff <[hidden email]> wrote:

If someone can find the Way Back Machine and recovers Nick's valuable web site, I would very much like to know about that. My Center is partners with a Swedish team working on a project with the Dalai Lama in Dharmsala called "Timeless Knowledge." I'm interested in appropriate technologies in addition to systems science that I can bring to this project before I go to India. At the very least--what a great metaphor!!

On Sun, Feb 11, 2018 at 12:11 PM, Nick Thompson <[hidden email]> wrote:
Here I am asking for your help, again.

EXECUTIVE SUMMARY: Does anybody know of an easy way to recover a defunct website, for the City University of Santa Fe, cusf.org, from the WayBackMachine?

SUPPORTING BLATHER:

As the members of the Mother Church know, The Santa Fe University of Art and Design is collapsing (https://retakeourdemocracy.org/2018/02/11/santa-fe-launches-sf-university-of-art-design-community-input-roundhouse-update-hb-325-chaco-more/ )and leaving behind a white elephant of a campus for the City to develop as it sees fit;. It includes a stunning, state-of-the-art, theatre. There is a process in progress, running over the next few months, to engage the public in development planning.

I have always felt that Santa Fe ought to be a University town. It has great coffee shops, zillions of retired professors, art galleries and performance spaces galore, and a plethora of Institutes and other intellectual organizations which are post graduate institutes in all but name. The last time this happened, I was young and idealistic (only 70) and I set about chartering an institution I called the City University of Santa Fe, a membership organization whose job it would be to support the transition of the old College of Santa Fe to a full-fledged University and to use the retired faculty in Santa Fe as a bridging faculty. We had a web page, we ran some seminars, it was fun. In the end, Laureate Industries took over the campus, and it looked like CUSF was unnecessary. But here we are again, and I would like to be able to pass on the charter and the concept to the people who are thinking about the future of the SFUAD campus.

The favor I am asking is as follows. I cannot recover the website. I have been told that there is something called the Way Back Machine that contains old websites. I tried to work with it and I have some evidence that the materials do exist, there, but I could not bring them up. I believe (but am not sure) that it was hosted by GoDaddy or BraveNet and that the site address was cusf.org. Unfortunately, that address has been scooped up twice since by others.

Do any of you know how to make the WayBackMachine hum?

Please be advised , those of you who don’t know me well, that I am the original tar-baby of time wasting, so be careful where you put your first paw.

Nick

Nicholas S. Thompson
Emeritus Professor of Psychology and Biology
Clark University
http://home.earthlink.net/~nickthompson/naturaldesigns/

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--
Merle Lefkoff, Ph.D.
President, Center for Emergent Diplomacy
emergentdiplomacy.org
Santa Fe, New Mexico, USA
[hidden email]
mobile: <a href="tel:(303)%20859-5609" value="+13038595609" target="_blank">(303) 859-5609
skype: merle.lelfkoff2
twitter: @Merle_Lefkoff

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Gary Schiltz-4

Re: Oh, Gawd!

There are many options, open source and commercial. I’ve used http://ricks-apps.com/osx/sitesucker/index.html on macOS, but haven’t tried it on the way back machine.

On Sun, Feb 11, 2018 at 6:11 PM Roger Critchlow <[hidden email]> wrote:

Ah, 2010

  https://web.archive.org/web/20100602025557/http://cusf.org

Just run a recursive wget on that url, though that may not work because the referenced urls on the page all point to cusf.jigsy.com, so they will be archived under that url.

Ah, 2011

  https://web.archive.org/web/20110816091744/http://cusf.jigsy.com

so run the recursive wget on that url and see what you get.

You get the web.archive.org robots.txt and the cusf.org home page with references to cusf.jigsy.com rewritten to reference the web.archive.org copies.

More searching reveals an open source ruby gem (https://github.com/hartator/wayback_machine_downloader) and http://waybackdownloader.com/ which will do the job for a price.

Here is the homepage in a google doc https://docs.google.com/document/d/1qBwdaV2i5_IW5jAqdRfRGg66R8FA0pafCY8lH8Ru8e4/edit?usp=sharing

-- rec --

-- rec --

On Sun, Feb 11, 2018 at 1:58 PM, Roger Critchlow <[hidden email]> wrote:
Yes, the earliest archives are for Credit Unions of South Florida, the latest archives are for CU Schools Foundation, haven't found one that is the City University of Santa Fe. Are you sure this was the URL?

-- rec --

On Sun, Feb 11, 2018 at 1:25 PM, Bob Ballance <[hidden email]> wrote:
In what time frame was the site active?

. . . Bob

On Feb 11, 2018, at 12:27 PM, Merle Lefkoff <[hidden email]> wrote:

If someone can find the Way Back Machine and recovers Nick's valuable web site, I would very much like to know about that. My Center is partners with a Swedish team working on a project with the Dalai Lama in Dharmsala called "Timeless Knowledge." I'm interested in appropriate technologies in addition to systems science that I can bring to this project before I go to India. At the very least--what a great metaphor!!

On Sun, Feb 11, 2018 at 12:11 PM, Nick Thompson <[hidden email]> wrote:
Here I am asking for your help, again.

EXECUTIVE SUMMARY: Does anybody know of an easy way to recover a defunct website, for the City University of Santa Fe, cusf.org, from the WayBackMachine?

SUPPORTING BLATHER:

As the members of the Mother Church know, The Santa Fe University of Art and Design is collapsing (https://retakeourdemocracy.org/2018/02/11/santa-fe-launches-sf-university-of-art-design-community-input-roundhouse-update-hb-325-chaco-more/ )and leaving behind a white elephant of a campus for the City to develop as it sees fit;. It includes a stunning, state-of-the-art, theatre. There is a process in progress, running over the next few months, to engage the public in development planning.

I have always felt that Santa Fe ought to be a University town. It has great coffee shops, zillions of retired professors, art galleries and performance spaces galore, and a plethora of Institutes and other intellectual organizations which are post graduate institutes in all but name. The last time this happened, I was young and idealistic (only 70) and I set about chartering an institution I called the City University of Santa Fe, a membership organization whose job it would be to support the transition of the old College of Santa Fe to a full-fledged University and to use the retired faculty in Santa Fe as a bridging faculty. We had a web page, we ran some seminars, it was fun. In the end, Laureate Industries took over the campus, and it looked like CUSF was unnecessary. But here we are again, and I would like to be able to pass on the charter and the concept to the people who are thinking about the future of the SFUAD campus.

The favor I am asking is as follows. I cannot recover the website. I have been told that there is something called the Way Back Machine that contains old websites. I tried to work with it and I have some evidence that the materials do exist, there, but I could not bring them up. I believe (but am not sure) that it was hosted by GoDaddy or BraveNet and that the site address was cusf.org. Unfortunately, that address has been scooped up twice since by others.

Do any of you know how to make the WayBackMachine hum?

Please be advised , those of you who don’t know me well, that I am the original tar-baby of time wasting, so be careful where you put your first paw.

Nick

Nicholas S. Thompson
Emeritus Professor of Psychology and Biology
Clark University
http://home.earthlink.net/~nickthompson/naturaldesigns/

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--
Merle Lefkoff, Ph.D.
President, Center for Emergent Diplomacy
emergentdiplomacy.org
Santa Fe, New Mexico, USA
[hidden email]
mobile: <a href="tel:(303)%20859-5609" value="+13038595609" target="_blank">(303) 859-5609
skype: merle.lelfkoff2
twitter: @Merle_Lefkoff

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Robert Wall

Re: Oh, Gawd!

Why not just rebuild it? I'd be willing to help. sounds like a very noble cause ...

On Sun, Feb 11, 2018 at 4:58 PM, Gary Schiltz <[hidden email]> wrote:

There are many options, open source and commercial. I’ve used http://ricks-apps.com/osx/sitesucker/index.html on macOS, but haven’t tried it on the way back machine.

On Sun, Feb 11, 2018 at 6:11 PM Roger Critchlow <[hidden email]> wrote:
Ah, 2010

  https://web.archive.org/web/20100602025557/http://cusf.org

Just run a recursive wget on that url, though that may not work because the referenced urls on the page all point to cusf.jigsy.com, so they will be archived under that url.

Ah, 2011

  https://web.archive.org/web/20110816091744/http://cusf.jigsy.com

so run the recursive wget on that url and see what you get.

You get the web.archive.org robots.txt and the cusf.org home page with references to cusf.jigsy.com rewritten to reference the web.archive.org copies.

More searching reveals an open source ruby gem (https://github.com/hartator/wayback_machine_downloader) and http://waybackdownloader.com/ which will do the job for a price.

Here is the homepage in a google doc https://docs.google.com/document/d/1qBwdaV2i5_IW5jAqdRfRGg66R8FA0pafCY8lH8Ru8e4/edit?usp=sharing

-- rec --

-- rec --

On Sun, Feb 11, 2018 at 1:58 PM, Roger Critchlow <[hidden email]> wrote:
Yes, the earliest archives are for Credit Unions of South Florida, the latest archives are for CU Schools Foundation, haven't found one that is the City University of Santa Fe. Are you sure this was the URL?

-- rec --

On Sun, Feb 11, 2018 at 1:25 PM, Bob Ballance <[hidden email]> wrote:
In what time frame was the site active?

. . . Bob

On Feb 11, 2018, at 12:27 PM, Merle Lefkoff <[hidden email]> wrote:

If someone can find the Way Back Machine and recovers Nick's valuable web site, I would very much like to know about that. My Center is partners with a Swedish team working on a project with the Dalai Lama in Dharmsala called "Timeless Knowledge." I'm interested in appropriate technologies in addition to systems science that I can bring to this project before I go to India. At the very least--what a great metaphor!!

On Sun, Feb 11, 2018 at 12:11 PM, Nick Thompson <[hidden email]> wrote:
Here I am asking for your help, again.

EXECUTIVE SUMMARY: Does anybody know of an easy way to recover a defunct website, for the City University of Santa Fe, cusf.org, from the WayBackMachine?

SUPPORTING BLATHER:

As the members of the Mother Church know, The Santa Fe University of Art and Design is collapsing (https://retakeourdemocracy.org/2018/02/11/santa-fe-launches-sf-university-of-art-design-community-input-roundhouse-update-hb-325-chaco-more/ )and leaving behind a white elephant of a campus for the City to develop as it sees fit;. It includes a stunning, state-of-the-art, theatre. There is a process in progress, running over the next few months, to engage the public in development planning.

I have always felt that Santa Fe ought to be a University town. It has great coffee shops, zillions of retired professors, art galleries and performance spaces galore, and a plethora of Institutes and other intellectual organizations which are post graduate institutes in all but name. The last time this happened, I was young and idealistic (only 70) and I set about chartering an institution I called the City University of Santa Fe, a membership organization whose job it would be to support the transition of the old College of Santa Fe to a full-fledged University and to use the retired faculty in Santa Fe as a bridging faculty. We had a web page, we ran some seminars, it was fun. In the end, Laureate Industries took over the campus, and it looked like CUSF was unnecessary. But here we are again, and I would like to be able to pass on the charter and the concept to the people who are thinking about the future of the SFUAD campus.

The favor I am asking is as follows. I cannot recover the website. I have been told that there is something called the Way Back Machine that contains old websites. I tried to work with it and I have some evidence that the materials do exist, there, but I could not bring them up. I believe (but am not sure) that it was hosted by GoDaddy or BraveNet and that the site address was cusf.org. Unfortunately, that address has been scooped up twice since by others.

Do any of you know how to make the WayBackMachine hum?

Please be advised , those of you who don’t know me well, that I am the original tar-baby of time wasting, so be careful where you put your first paw.

Nick

Nicholas S. Thompson
Emeritus Professor of Psychology and Biology
Clark University
http://home.earthlink.net/~nickthompson/naturaldesigns/

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Nick Thompson

Re: Oh, Gawd!

Dear Gary,

Thanks. That’s very kind. I would snatch at your offer if it weren’t for my experience the first time around. All I want at this point is to be able to present the name and the concept to the group that is considering the future of the campus, just in case they have some use for either.

People have given me a lot of good ideas, so now I have to put them to work and see if I can recover the data.

Nick

Nicholas S. Thompson

Emeritus Professor of Psychology and Biology

Clark University

http://home.earthlink.net/~nickthompson/naturaldesigns/

From: Friam [mailto:[hidden email]] On Behalf Of Robert Wall
Sent: Sunday, February 11, 2018 9:27 PM
To: The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group <[hidden email]>
Subject: Re: [FRIAM] Oh, Gawd!

Why not just rebuild it? I'd be willing to help. sounds like a very noble cause ...

On Sun, Feb 11, 2018 at 4:58 PM, Gary Schiltz <[hidden email]> wrote:

There are many options, open source and commercial. I’ve used http://ricks-apps.com/osx/sitesucker/index.html on macOS, but haven’t tried it on the way back machine.

On Sun, Feb 11, 2018 at 6:11 PM Roger Critchlow <[hidden email]> wrote:
Ah, 2010

  https://web.archive.org/web/20100602025557/http://cusf.org

Just run a recursive wget on that url, though that may not work because the referenced urls on the page all point to cusf.jigsy.com, so they will be archived under that url.

Ah, 2011

  https://web.archive.org/web/20110816091744/http://cusf.jigsy.com

so run the recursive wget on that url and see what you get.

You get the web.archive.org robots.txt and the cusf.org home page with references to cusf.jigsy.com rewritten to reference the web.archive.org copies.

More searching reveals an open source ruby gem (https://github.com/hartator/wayback_machine_downloader) and http://waybackdownloader.com/ which will do the job for a price.

Here is the homepage in a google doc https://docs.google.com/document/d/1qBwdaV2i5_IW5jAqdRfRGg66R8FA0pafCY8lH8Ru8e4/edit?usp=sharing

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On Sun, Feb 11, 2018 at 1:58 PM, Roger Critchlow <[hidden email]> wrote:
Yes, the earliest archives are for Credit Unions of South Florida, the latest archives are for CU Schools Foundation, haven't found one that is the City University of Santa Fe. Are you sure this was the URL?

-- rec --

On Sun, Feb 11, 2018 at 1:25 PM, Bob Ballance <[hidden email]> wrote:
In what time frame was the site active?

. . . Bob

On Feb 11, 2018, at 12:27 PM, Merle Lefkoff <[hidden email]> wrote:

If someone can find the Way Back Machine and recovers Nick's valuable web site, I would very much like to know about that. My Center is partners with a Swedish team working on a project with the Dalai Lama in Dharmsala called "Timeless Knowledge." I'm interested in appropriate technologies in addition to systems science that I can bring to this project before I go to India. At the very least--what a great metaphor!!

On Sun, Feb 11, 2018 at 12:11 PM, Nick Thompson <[hidden email]> wrote:
Here I am asking for your help, again.

EXECUTIVE SUMMARY: Does anybody know of an easy way to recover a defunct website, for the City University of Santa Fe, cusf.org, from the WayBackMachine?

SUPPORTING BLATHER:

As the members of the Mother Church know, The Santa Fe University of Art and Design is collapsing (https://retakeourdemocracy.org/2018/02/11/santa-fe-launches-sf-university-of-art-design-community-input-roundhouse-update-hb-325-chaco-more/ )and leaving behind a white elephant of a campus for the City to develop as it sees fit;. It includes a stunning, state-of-the-art, theatre. There is a process in progress, running over the next few months, to engage the public in development planning.

I have always felt that Santa Fe ought to be a University town. It has great coffee shops, zillions of retired professors, art galleries and performance spaces galore, and a plethora of Institutes and other intellectual organizations which are post graduate institutes in all but name. The last time this happened, I was young and idealistic (only 70) and I set about chartering an institution I called the City University of Santa Fe, a membership organization whose job it would be to support the transition of the old College of Santa Fe to a full-fledged University and to use the retired faculty in Santa Fe as a bridging faculty. We had a web page, we ran some seminars, it was fun. In the end, Laureate Industries took over the campus, and it looked like CUSF was unnecessary. But here we are again, and I would like to be able to pass on the charter and the concept to the people who are thinking about the future of the SFUAD campus.

The favor I am asking is as follows. I cannot recover the website. I have been told that there is something called the Way Back Machine that contains old websites. I tried to work with it and I have some evidence that the materials do exist, there, but I could not bring them up. I believe (but am not sure) that it was hosted by GoDaddy or BraveNet and that the site address was cusf.org. Unfortunately, that address has been scooped up twice since by others.

Do any of you know how to make the WayBackMachine hum?

Please be advised , those of you who don’t know me well, that I am the original tar-baby of time wasting, so be careful where you put your first paw.

Nick

Nicholas S. Thompson
Emeritus Professor of Psychology and Biology
Clark University
http://home.earthlink.net/~nickthompson/naturaldesigns/

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Merle Lefkoff, Ph.D.
President, Center for Emergent Diplomacy
emergentdiplomacy.org
Santa Fe, New Mexico, USA
[hidden email]
mobile: <a href="tel:(303)%20859-5609" target="_blank">(303) 859-5609
skype: merle.lelfkoff2
twitter: @Merle_Lefkoff
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Mark Suazo

Re: Oh, Gawd!

Bust luck I've had was to find things in the internet archive/wayback and copy/paste into a new html doc... but there are better solutions.

oh - and in regards to " I have always felt that Santa Fe ought to be a University town" it could have been one.

When NM was still a territory, Santa Fe, as the capital, was given the choice - the prison or the university.

They chose the prison - they couldn't imagine a university would worthwhile - and prison was seen as a steady source of jobs - so they opened it in 1885. :-)

The university did come to fruition about 4 years later and now UNM is the largest employer in the state.

And Santa Fe - well, it still has all those prison jobs. :-)

On Mon, Feb 12, 2018 at 3:14 PM, Nick Thompson <[hidden email]> wrote:

Dear Gary,

Thanks. That’s very kind. I would snatch at your offer if it weren’t for my experience the first time around.     All I want at this point is to be able to present the name and the concept to the group that is considering the future of the campus, just in case they have some use for either.

People have given me a lot of good ideas, so now I have to put them to work and see if I can recover the data.

Nick

Nicholas S. Thompson
Emeritus Professor of Psychology and Biology
Clark University
http://home.earthlink.net/~nickthompson/naturaldesigns/

From: Friam [mailto:[hidden email]] On Behalf Of Robert Wall
Sent: Sunday, February 11, 2018 9:27 PM
To: The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group <[hidden email]>
Subject: Re: [FRIAM] Oh, Gawd!

Why not just rebuild it? I'd be willing to help. sounds like a very noble cause ...

On Sun, Feb 11, 2018 at 4:58 PM, Gary Schiltz <[hidden email]> wrote:
There are many options, open source and commercial. I’ve used http://ricks-apps.com/osx/sitesucker/index.html on macOS, but haven’t tried it on the way back machine.

On Sun, Feb 11, 2018 at 6:11 PM Roger Critchlow <[hidden email]> wrote:
Ah, 2010

  https://web.archive.org/web/20100602025557/http://cusf.org

Just run a recursive wget on that url, though that may not work because the referenced urls on the page all point to cusf.jigsy.com, so they will be archived under that url.

Ah, 2011

  https://web.archive.org/web/20110816091744/http://cusf.jigsy.com

so run the recursive wget on that url and see what you get.

You get the web.archive.org robots.txt and the cusf.org home page with references to cusf.jigsy.com rewritten to reference the web.archive.org copies.

More searching reveals an open source ruby gem (https://github.com/hartator/wayback_machine_downloader) and http://waybackdownloader.com/ which will do the job for a price.

Here is the homepage in a google doc https://docs.google.com/document/d/1qBwdaV2i5_IW5jAqdRfRGg66R8FA0pafCY8lH8Ru8e4/edit?usp=sharing

-- rec --

-- rec --

On Sun, Feb 11, 2018 at 1:58 PM, Roger Critchlow <[hidden email]> wrote:
Yes, the earliest archives are for Credit Unions of South Florida, the latest archives are for CU Schools Foundation, haven't found one that is the City University of Santa Fe. Are you sure this was the URL?

-- rec --

On Sun, Feb 11, 2018 at 1:25 PM, Bob Ballance <[hidden email]> wrote:
In what time frame was the site active?

. . . Bob

On Feb 11, 2018, at 12:27 PM, Merle Lefkoff <[hidden email]> wrote:

If someone can find the Way Back Machine and recovers Nick's valuable web site, I would very much like to know about that. My Center is partners with a Swedish team working on a project with the Dalai Lama in Dharmsala called "Timeless Knowledge." I'm interested in appropriate technologies in addition to systems science that I can bring to this project before I go to India. At the very least--what a great metaphor!!

On Sun, Feb 11, 2018 at 12:11 PM, Nick Thompson <[hidden email]> wrote:
Here I am asking for your help, again.

EXECUTIVE SUMMARY: Does anybody know of an easy way to recover a defunct website, for the City University of Santa Fe, cusf.org, from the WayBackMachine?

SUPPORTING BLATHER:

As the members of the Mother Church know, The Santa Fe University of Art and Design is collapsing (https://retakeourdemocracy.org/2018/02/11/santa-fe-launches-sf-university-of-art-design-community-input-roundhouse-update-hb-325-chaco-more/ )and leaving behind a white elephant of a campus for the City to develop as it sees fit;. It includes a stunning, state-of-the-art, theatre. There is a process in progress, running over the next few months, to engage the public in development planning.

I have always felt that Santa Fe ought to be a University town. It has great coffee shops, zillions of retired professors, art galleries and performance spaces galore, and a plethora of Institutes and other intellectual organizations which are post graduate institutes in all but name. The last time this happened, I was young and idealistic (only 70) and I set about chartering an institution I called the City University of Santa Fe, a membership organization whose job it would be to support the transition of the old College of Santa Fe to a full-fledged University and to use the retired faculty in Santa Fe as a bridging faculty. We had a web page, we ran some seminars, it was fun. In the end, Laureate Industries took over the campus, and it looked like CUSF was unnecessary. But here we are again, and I would like to be able to pass on the charter and the concept to the people who are thinking about the future of the SFUAD campus.

The favor I am asking is as follows. I cannot recover the website. I have been told that there is something called the Way Back Machine that contains old websites. I tried to work with it and I have some evidence that the materials do exist, there, but I could not bring them up. I believe (but am not sure) that it was hosted by GoDaddy or BraveNet and that the site address was cusf.org. Unfortunately, that address has been scooped up twice since by others.

Do any of you know how to make the WayBackMachine hum?

Please be advised , those of you who don’t know me well, that I am the original tar-baby of time wasting, so be careful where you put your first paw.

Nick

Nicholas S. Thompson
Emeritus Professor of Psychology and Biology
Clark University
http://home.earthlink.net/~nickthompson/naturaldesigns/

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President, Center for Emergent Diplomacy
emergentdiplomacy.org
Santa Fe, New Mexico, USA
[hidden email]
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