NetBeans 4.0 -- Not bad.

[Owen Densmore]

I just downloaded the netbeans ide to see what it looked like now adays.

I have tried eclipse, and like some of its features, but I find its
culture unapproachable.  The SWT conflict is a constant irritation, and
I just don't see a reason for it.  I also can't figure out the plugin
world.  Seems very fractured.  But I think its far more popular than
netbeans and idea/intellij.  I've used idea/intellij, and liked it
quite a bit.  But its expensive, and for that reason not quite as
popular as eclipse .. but folks who like it are very strong advocates.

So I thought I'd look at netbeans to see if it had gotten cleaner.  
Boy, I'm impressed.  I'll try building a project with it to see how
difficult that is.

What IDEs are other friamers using?

Owen

[Gary Schiltz-3]

I continue to really like eclipse. But then, I haven't ever had the need
to write a plug-in. As for the SWT, as I understand it, IBM felt that
Swing was too slow when they started eclipse development, so went with
more of a peer based GUI architecture (think AWT++). You can certainly
write Swing apps with eclipse, although you can't (as I understand it)
integrate them into the eclipse platform. One thing I've really found
useful is MyEclipse IDE (www.myeclipseide.com) for developing Servlets
and JSPs.

// Gary

Owen Densmore wrote:

> I just downloaded the netbeans ide to see what it looked like now adays.
>
> I have tried eclipse, and like some of its features, but I find its
> culture unapproachable.  The SWT conflict is a constant irritation,
> and I just don't see a reason for it.  I also can't figure out the
> plugin world.  Seems very fractured.  But I think its far more popular
> than netbeans and idea/intellij.  I've used idea/intellij, and liked
> it quite a bit.  But its expensive, and for that reason not quite as
> popular as eclipse .. but folks who like it are very strong advocates.
>
> So I thought I'd look at netbeans to see if it had gotten cleaner.  
> Boy, I'm impressed.  I'll try building a project with it to see how
> difficult that is.
>
> What IDEs are other friamers using?
>
> Owen

[John Hellier]

Owen,

I have been using Eclipse for some time now and I
really like it. I just installed 3.0.1
today and it works beautifully.I mostly do web
development with Tomcat and the integration is good.
To install Tomcat support all I had to do was get a
Tomcat plugin, drop it in the plugins directory,
restart Eclipse and you are ready to develop servlets.
The CVS integration is also good.  In my last job I
was running it on a Linux box (great font support) and
now I running it on XP(fonts need help). Both however
work quite well.

I have used Netbeans in the past. Haven't touched it
in about three years. Eclipse just seemed the better
choice. Both have significant learning curves though.


John Hellier
 
--- Owen Densmore <[hidden email]> wrote:

> I just downloaded the netbeans ide to see what it
> looked like now adays.
>
> I have tried eclipse, and like some of its features,
> but I find its
> culture unapproachable.  The SWT conflict is a
> constant irritation, and
> I just don't see a reason for it.  I also can't
> figure out the plugin
> world.  Seems very fractured.  But I think its far
> more popular than
> netbeans and idea/intellij.  I've used
> idea/intellij, and liked it
> quite a bit.  But its expensive, and for that reason
> not quite as
> popular as eclipse .. but folks who like it are very
> strong advocates.
>
> So I thought I'd look at netbeans to see if it had
> gotten cleaner.  
> Boy, I'm impressed.  I'll try building a project
> with it to see how
> difficult that is.
>
> What IDEs are other friamers using?
>
> Owen
>
>
>

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