Net Neutrality?

[Owen Densmore]

With all the buzz about Google & Verizon, I'm surprised at the use of the term Net Neutrality including Quality of Service.

The pundits are concerned that somehow QoS (differential bandwidth/latency) according to service will Destroy The Net As We Know It!!

My understanding from early on was that Net Neutrality means that the services are provided at the endpoints, and that the net itself is independent of the services.  And QoS entered in via protocol requirements (RTP and other media protocols, for example, can have lower latency if available, possibly with reduced bandwidth).

But bandwidth concerns seem to be of a different nature .. you can pay for better pipes if appropriate.

So I find myself confused about the buzz -- anyone got a clear understanding about where NN is endangered by Google & Verizon?  (I only know of one case that concerns me and that's iPhone/ATT providing specialized Voice Mail that is non-NN as far as I can see.)

    -- Owen



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[Edward Angel]

I believe a major part of the concern is that a provider can decide to provide better service for some rather than equal service for all. For example, if you use comcast as your provider, you would be affected if Comcast provided their own streaming video at a high QoS while giving Netflix, that you may be paying for, a low QoS, thus pushing you to buy their online movies.

Ed

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On Aug 16, 2010, at 12:35 PM, Owen Densmore wrote:

With all the buzz about Google & Verizon, I'm surprised at the use of the term Net Neutrality including Quality of Service.

The pundits are concerned that somehow QoS (differential bandwidth/latency) according to service will Destroy The Net As We Know It!!

My understanding from early on was that Net Neutrality means that the services are provided at the endpoints, and that the net itself is independent of the services.  And QoS entered in via protocol requirements (RTP and other media protocols, for example, can have lower latency if available, possibly with reduced bandwidth).

But bandwidth concerns seem to be of a different nature .. you can pay for better pipes if appropriate.

So I find myself confused about the buzz -- anyone got a clear understanding about where NN is endangered by Google & Verizon?  (I only know of one case that concerns me and that's iPhone/ATT providing specialized Voice Mail that is non-NN as far as I can see.)

   -- Owen



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