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We got into a discussion on Friday about who can decide that the president is unfit. https://constitutioncenter.org/interactive-constitution/amendments/amendment-xxv In the first instance, it’s principle officers of the executive branch … all Trump appointees except Pence. Only in the case of a conflict between those principle officers and the president does congress get involved, having the power to prevent the president from returning to office by vote of 2/3 of both houses. N ============================================================ FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv Meets Fridays 9a-11:30 at cafe at St. John's College to unsubscribe http://redfish.com/mailman/listinfo/friam_redfish.com FRIAM-COMIC http://friam-comic.blogspot.com/ by Dr. Strangelove |
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every President signs a specific directive - for Bush it was Directive 51 - that designates one specific person who can decide the succession. Normally they would follow constitutional directives but can "skip" over someone in the sequence who they deem "unfit." Normally this would come into play only in extreme situations - like a bomb taking out the capital during a joint session / state of the nation address kind of thing.
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David, Would that be Bannon? Can we find out? How do you know about this Directive 51. Sounds like something about Aliens. No, not that kind. The other kind. Nick Nicholas S. Thompson Emeritus Professor of Psychology and Biology Clark University From: Friam [mailto:[hidden email]] On Behalf Of Prof David West every President signs a specific directive - for Bush it was Directive 51 - that designates one specific person who can decide the succession. Normally they would follow constitutional directives but can "skip" over someone in the sequence who they deem "unfit." Normally this would come into play only in extreme situations - like a bomb taking out the capital during a joint session / state of the nation address kind of thing. dave west On Sun, Feb 5, 2017, at 12:06 AM, Nick Thompson wrote:
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don't know answers to your questions - the directive is also known as NDS something or other, and I don't know if it is secret. For Bush it was a director of a division of Homeland Security (after that agency was established).
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David, Is it possible that this is what we psychologists call, “a believed-in imagining”? Given the 25th Amendment, there would have to be a law that designated anybody other than those designated in the amendment. Nick Nicholas S. Thompson Emeritus Professor of Psychology and Biology Clark University From: Friam [mailto:[hidden email]] On Behalf Of Prof David West don't know answers to your questions - the directive is also known as NDS something or other, and I don't know if it is secret. For Bush it was a director of a division of Homeland Security (after that agency was established). On Sun, Feb 5, 2017, at 02:13 PM, Nick Thompson wrote:
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google "bush directive 51" finds https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Security_and_Homeland_Security_Presidential_Directive which discusses the non-classified procedures for maintaining continuity of government in the event of a "catastrophic emergency". There are constitutional questions about it. -- rec -- On Mon, Feb 6, 2017 at 12:26 PM, Nick Thompson <[hidden email]> wrote:
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