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Paul Paryski
Unfortunately, the NYT is no longer the newspaper it once was.  It's  
reporting on the invasion, its justification and subsequent events is a  case in
point.
 
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Phil Henshaw-2
I've been curious about the change in the Times apparent politics.   I
think it's actually detaching itself from politics maybe, but in a
curious way.   I see more and more pieces that seem carefully crafted
for particular audiences, so that instead of having one voice that you
can get used to and know what to expect from, you now have more blush
pieces for targeted interests.     Their editorial positions are still
seem well researched, fair minded and practical, but the news is for
rent more and more of the time.     Anyone else notice that?  
 
 

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Unfortunately, the NYT is no longer the newspaper it once was.  It's
reporting on the invasion, its justification and subsequent events is a
case in point.
 
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Pamela McCorduck
No, I can't say I have, but I'll keep an open eye.  What I see is much
more, uhm, inessential stuff.  But my inessential may be someone else's
essential.  After all, the Times has always had a sports section, which
I toss gratefully as a chunk of the paper I don't ever have to read.  
I'm sure others feel the same about other parts.  This is a financial
fact of life--the Times must cover certain topics to reach certain
readers, topics that other readers think are a waste of trees.  But as
for the news columns being "for rent," no, I don't see that at all.

Pamela



On Mar 1, 2007, at 12:42 AM, Phil Henshaw wrote:

> I've been curious about the change in the Times apparent politics.?? I
> think it's actually detaching itself from politics maybe, but in a
> curious way.?? I see more and more pieces that seem carefully crafted
> for particular audiences, so that instead of having one voice that you
> can get used to and know what to expect from, you now have more?blush
> pieces for?targeted interests.???? Their editorial positions are still
> seem well researched, fair minded?and practical, but the news is for
> rent?more and more?of the time.???? Anyone else notice that????
> ?
> ?
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> explorations: www.synapse9.com???
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>> Unfortunately, the NYT is no longer the newspaper it once was.? It's
>> reporting on the invasion, its justification?and subsequent events is
>> a case in point.
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David Breecker
But I must add that the Week in Review has been reduced to a smaller, thinner, and more popular-oriented section (compared to what I distinctly remember as a rigorous analytical review of the week's salient events).  Cartoons, "color" stories, and summaries of late-night comedians' topical humor?  

I'm about to subscribe to the Economist as a compensatory measure.
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  No, I can't say I have, but I'll keep an open eye. What I see is much more, uhm, inessential stuff. But my inessential may be someone else's essential. After all, the Times has always had a sports section, which I toss gratefully as a chunk of the paper I don't ever have to read. I'm sure others feel the same about other parts. This is a financial fact of life--the Times must cover certain topics to reach certain readers, topics that other readers think are a waste of trees. But as for the news columns being "for rent," no, I don't see that at all.

  Pamela



  On Mar 1, 2007, at 12:42 AM, Phil Henshaw wrote:


    I've been curious about the change in the Times apparent politics.   I think it's actually detaching itself from politics maybe, but in a curious way.   I see more and more pieces that seem carefully crafted for particular audiences, so that instead of having one voice that you can get used to and know what to expect from, you now have more blush pieces for targeted interests.     Their editorial positions are still seem well researched, fair minded and practical, but the news is for rent more and more of the time.     Anyone else notice that?  
     
     

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      Unfortunately, the NYT is no longer the newspaper it once was.  It's reporting on the invasion, its justification and subsequent events is a case in point.
       
      Paul Paryski



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Pamela McCorduck
As a longtime subscriber to both the Times and the Economist, I can
tell you that the Economist certainly has a point of view; you detect
it, you smile and move on.  Their writing is sprightlier than that of
the Times (though the Times is trying harder these days), but hardly
"all the facts."


"All human beings have this burden in life to constantly figure out
what's true, what's authentic, what's meaningful, what's dross, what's
a hallucination, what's a figment, what's madness.  We all need to
figure out what is valuable, constantly.  As a writer, all I am doing
is posing the question in a way that people can see very clearly."

                                        Maxine Hong Kingston



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Mikhail Gorelkin
> All human beings have this burden in life to constantly figure out what's
> true

The better way to figure it out is to read The Times, The Economist,
Le Monde diplomatique (in English http://mondediplo.com), and
a couple of Russian newspapers :-)

--Mikhail

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> As a longtime subscriber to both the Times and the Economist, I can
> tell you that the Economist certainly has a point of view; you detect
> it, you smile and move on.  Their writing is sprightlier than that of
> the Times (though the Times is trying harder these days), but hardly
> "all the facts."
>
>
> "All human beings have this burden in life to constantly figure out
> what's true, what's authentic, what's meaningful, what's dross, what's
> a hallucination, what's a figment, what's madness.  We all need to
> figure out what is valuable, constantly.  As a writer, all I am doing
> is posing the question in a way that people can see very clearly."
>
> Maxine Hong Kingston
>
>
> ============================================================
> FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv
> Meets Fridays 9a-11:30 at cafe at St. John's College
> lectures, archives, unsubscribe, maps at http://www.friam.org
>