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Parks, Raymond
tom at jtjohnson.com wrote:
...
> A column that, whether the author realizes it or not, reflects
> emergence. (Hmmmm. Do we need a term the equivalent of "Realpolitik"?
> Realemerg? Or whatever the German term would be?) -tj

   Emergentzy?  Or is that too Slavic?

   According to Google language services, the literal translation of
Emergence Politics would be Auftauchen Politik, which sounds way to
complicated to be a catch-phrase.

   Back to the NYT column - the author seems to conveniently ignore
Howard Dean and Ron Paul.  They both have had great success at on-line
fund-raising - but since they're from the Hilary generation, they didn't
really take advantage of the networking.  Paul's supporters, in
particular, seem to have had to do the networking on their own.

   One aspect of the on-line, social network culture that the author
(also of the wrong generation based on his picture alone) ignores is the
ephemereal nature of social networks.  Who remembers sixdegrees or the
many other social networks that existed long before myspace or facebook?
  They were all fads or just unlucky - some factor (butterfly wings in
the web?) just didn't happen to push them over the threshold.  Heck,
even the current social networking sites are being supplanted.

   Another aspect the author ignores is the fickleness of on-line social
networks.  All it takes is a catchy rumour and suddenly the favourite
son (or daughter) will be cast-off and ignored.

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NYTimes.com: The Obama Connection

Michael Agar
"Herauskristalizieren" was big at the University of Vienna some years  
back. "Crystalize out" more or less. For German that's a catch phrase :)


Mike


On May 27, 2008, at 1:50 PM, Parks, Raymond wrote:

> tom at jtjohnson.com wrote:
> ...
>> A column that, whether the author realizes it or not, reflects
>> emergence. (Hmmmm. Do we need a term the equivalent of "Realpolitik"?
>> Realemerg? Or whatever the German term would be?) -tj
>
>   Emergentzy?  Or is that too Slavic?
>
>   According to Google language services, the literal translation of
> Emergence Politics would be Auftauchen Politik, which sounds way to
> complicated to be a catch-phrase.
>
>   Back to the NYT column - the author seems to conveniently ignore
> Howard Dean and Ron Paul.  They both have had great success at on-line
> fund-raising - but since they're from the Hilary generation, they  
> didn't
> really take advantage of the networking.  Paul's supporters, in
> particular, seem to have had to do the networking on their own.
>
>   One aspect of the on-line, social network culture that the author
> (also of the wrong generation based on his picture alone) ignores is  
> the
> ephemereal nature of social networks.  Who remembers sixdegrees or the
> many other social networks that existed long before myspace or  
> facebook?
>  They were all fads or just unlucky - some factor (butterfly wings in
> the web?) just didn't happen to push them over the threshold.  Heck,
> even the current social networking sites are being supplanted.
>
>   Another aspect the author ignores is the fickleness of on-line  
> social
> networks.  All it takes is a catchy rumour and suddenly the favourite
> son (or daughter) will be cast-off and ignored.
>
> --
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NYTimes.com: The Obama Connection

Parks, Raymond
Michael Agar wrote:
> "Herauskristalizieren" was big at the University of Vienna some years
> back. "Crystalize out" more or less. For German that's a catch phrase :)

   I think my mom used to say something like "auspuche", a colloquialism
for "spit it out", like after brushing your teeth.

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NYTimes.com: The Obama Connection

Tom Johnson
In reply to this post by Parks, Raymond
I like "Emergentzy."  Easy to remember and probably easy to spell.

"The system's current state of emergentzy."

And it could be "emergentzied" and "emergentzing."

-T

On Tue, May 27, 2008 at 1:50 PM, Parks, Raymond <rcparks at sandia.gov> wrote:

> tom at jtjohnson.com wrote:
> ...
>
>> A column that, whether the author realizes it or not, reflects emergence.
>> (Hmmmm. Do we need a term the equivalent of "Realpolitik"? Realemerg? Or
>> whatever the German term would be?) -tj
>>
>
>  Emergentzy?  Or is that too Slavic?
>
>  According to Google language services, the literal translation of
> Emergence Politics would be Auftauchen Politik, which sounds way to
> complicated to be a catch-phrase.
>
>  Back to the NYT column - the author seems to conveniently ignore Howard
> Dean and Ron Paul.  They both have had great success at on-line fund-raising
> - but since they're from the Hilary generation, they didn't really take
> advantage of the networking.  Paul's supporters, in particular, seem to have
> had to do the networking on their own.
>
>  One aspect of the on-line, social network culture that the author (also of
> the wrong generation based on his picture alone) ignores is the ephemereal
> nature of social networks.  Who remembers sixdegrees or the many other
> social networks that existed long before myspace or facebook?  They were all
> fads or just unlucky - some factor (butterfly wings in the web?) just didn't
> happen to push them over the threshold.  Heck, even the current social
> networking sites are being supplanted.
>
>  Another aspect the author ignores is the fickleness of on-line social
> networks.  All it takes is a catchy rumour and suddenly the favourite son
> (or daughter) will be cast-off and ignored.
>
> --
> Ray Parks                   rcparks at sandia.gov
> Consilient Heuristician     Voice:505-844-4024
> ATA Department              Mobile:505-238-9359
> http://www.sandia.gov/scada Fax:505-844-9641
> http://www.sandia.gov/idart Pager:800-690-5288
>
>
>
>


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