NYT: The White-Collar Blues (Another one .. starting tocome fast!)

[Christopher Jungmann]

Fred,
I enjoyed reading the article.  I agree that it is more realistic, voire
optimistic.  I've been thinking of ways to polish an opportunity out of this
trend.  To best express my thoughts, I quote from the article:

"In order to justify their high salaries, America's future IT workers will
need to be more like management consultants, strategists and
troubleshooters. They'll need an intimate understanding of the business so
that they can devise new IT solutions. They'll help decide which IT work can
most efficiently be outsourced; and they'll be liaisons between the work
that goes offshore, the work that's subcontracted to other companies in the
United States and the IT work done in-house."

Does anyone one this list know of a startup that is addressing this?  I
suspect the "big three" are already in the game, but perhaps there's a
specialty or niche.

Chris

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>From: Fred Seibel <[hidden email]>
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>tocome fast!)
>Date: Mon, 29 Dec 2003 08:53:00 -0700
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>In September a Democrat, Robert Reich, was a bit more optimistic.
>
>http://www.cio.com/archive/092203/reich.html
>
>
>Fred
>
>On Dec 28, 2003, at 9:27 PM, Owen Densmore wrote:
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>>http://www.nytimes.com/2003/12/29/opinion/29HERB.html?pagewanted=print
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[Carl Tollander-2]

So, if I read this right, Eye-Tea departments would be outsourcing
the outsourcing decisions? We could then make decisions to outsource the
decision to employ ourselves.

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Fred,
I enjoyed reading the article.  I agree that it is more realistic, voire
optimistic.  I've been thinking of ways to polish an opportunity out of this
trend.  To best express my thoughts, I quote from the article:

"In order to justify their high salaries, America's future IT workers will
need to be more like management consultants, strategists and
troubleshooters. They'll need an intimate understanding of the business so
that they can devise new IT solutions. They'll help decide which IT work can
most efficiently be outsourced; and they'll be liaisons between the work
that goes offshore, the work that's subcontracted to other companies in the
United States and the IT work done in-house."

Does anyone one this list know of a startup that is addressing this?  I
suspect the "big three" are already in the game, but perhaps there's a
specialty or niche.

Chris

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>From: Fred Seibel <[hidden email]>
>Reply-To: The Friday Morning Complexity Coffee Group <[hidden email]>
>To: The Friday Morning Complexity Coffee Group <[hidden email]>
>Subject: Re: [FRIAM] NYT: The White-Collar Blues (Another one .. starting
>tocome fast!)
>Date: Mon, 29 Dec 2003 08:53:00 -0700
>
>In September a Democrat, Robert Reich, was a bit more optimistic.
>
>http://www.cio.com/archive/092203/reich.html
>
>
>Fred
>
>On Dec 28, 2003, at 9:27 PM, Owen Densmore wrote:
>
>>http://www.nytimes.com/2003/12/29/opinion/29HERB.html?pagewanted=print
>>
>>Owen Densmore          908 Camino Santander       Santa Fe, NM 87505
>>[hidden email]    Cell: 505-570-0168         Home: 505-988-3787
>>AIM:owendensmore   http://complexityworkshop.com  http://backspaces.net
>>
>>
>>============================================================
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>>Meets Fridays 9AM @ Jane's Cafe
>>Lecture schedule, archives, unsubscribe, etc.:
>>http://www.friam.org
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>
>
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