Mouse issue

[Gillian Densmore]

I have a problem that I need help solving.

Mice.

History: About 8-9 days ago I found out I have a mouse problem. I tried calling the city's pest controll to evict them before matters got worse. They told me they don't deel with mice.

Problems: I can only guess just how bad the problem is. But it's safe to guess they're in the walls and or pipes someplace, because i've  thumped at least 4 possibly 5 the upstairs bathroom wich is...problematic at best.

Also It turns out I have a small feer of mice leading to rambling incorehently on the phone to fam about the fuckers, a issue I am trying to resolve as best I can. Thank god for having some vallium on hand and some martial arts experience to stay calmER so that instead of pestering fam like calling them at 8pm on a Thursday to bich about them starting with Oh fuck their's a mouse and it's in my very nice and expensive tea, and it's friends are trying to go foraging on the kitchen table (Even though it was cleaned with bleach) 

I think what set me on tilte more than usual was trying to do some of the PT excersizes getting up and finding out calmly waching me looking both interested and perplexed--then going to bed for and finding a different one on my bed munching on something looking at me like he/she owned the house. I'm sure my rant and and the hell do I do I asked dad about will go down in history eventually.

Question: What steps can I take in addition to take convince them the fams casita is deadly. 

So far I've put out easly 20 unique claptraps. The traditional kind.  With help from my friend sabina we started on  massive spring cleaning that was probably over do anyway.

I keep running out of traps to put out. Between being pretting sure it's not getting to the root of the problem and running out clap traps.

I have no clue what else can be done:

What else can be done?

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[Tom Johnson]

We are having the same problem.  Supposedly Critter Control "sealed" the house.  Huh?  Yeah, the joke's on us.  So far I've resorted to buying quantities of traps from Amazon.  See https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01CH01PA4/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o01_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

TJ

On Sun, Nov 6, 2016 at 11:09 AM, Gillian Densmore <[hidden email]> wrote:

I have a problem that I need help solving.

Mice.

History: About 8-9 days ago I found out I have a mouse problem. I tried calling the city's pest controll to evict them before matters got worse. They told me they don't deel with mice.

Problems: I can only guess just how bad the problem is. But it's safe to guess they're in the walls and or pipes someplace, because i've  thumped at least 4 possibly 5 the upstairs bathroom wich is...problematic at best.

Also It turns out I have a small feer of mice leading to rambling incorehently on the phone to fam about the fuckers, a issue I am trying to resolve as best I can. Thank god for having some vallium on hand and some martial arts experience to stay calmER so that instead of pestering fam like calling them at 8pm on a Thursday to bich about them starting with Oh fuck their's a mouse and it's in my very nice and expensive tea, and it's friends are trying to go foraging on the kitchen table (Even though it was cleaned with bleach) 

I think what set me on tilte more than usual was trying to do some of the PT excersizes getting up and finding out calmly waching me looking both interested and perplexed--then going to bed for and finding a different one on my bed munching on something looking at me like he/she owned the house. I'm sure my rant and and the hell do I do I asked dad about will go down in history eventually.

Question: What steps can I take in addition to take convince them the fams casita is deadly. 

So far I've put out easly 20 unique claptraps. The traditional kind.  With help from my friend sabina we started on  massive spring cleaning that was probably over do anyway.

I keep running out of traps to put out. Between being pretting sure it's not getting to the root of the problem and running out clap traps.

I have no clue what else can be done:

What else can be done?

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[Frank Wimberly-2]

I've had good luck with sticky traps.  The only problem is that you have to throw a live mouse into the garbage can.  But we've only had about 4 mice in 17 years.

Frank

Frank Wimberly
Phone [phone]

On Nov 6, 2016 3:28 PM, "Tom Johnson" <[hidden email]> wrote:

We are having the same problem.  Supposedly Critter Control "sealed" the house.  Huh?  Yeah, the joke's on us.  So far I've resorted to buying quantities of traps from Amazon.  See https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01CH01PA4/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o01_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

TJ

On Sun, Nov 6, 2016 at 11:09 AM, Gillian Densmore <[hidden email]> wrote:

I have a problem that I need help solving.

Mice.

History: About 8-9 days ago I found out I have a mouse problem. I tried calling the city's pest controll to evict them before matters got worse. They told me they don't deel with mice.

Problems: I can only guess just how bad the problem is. But it's safe to guess they're in the walls and or pipes someplace, because i've  thumped at least 4 possibly 5 the upstairs bathroom wich is...problematic at best.

Also It turns out I have a small feer of mice leading to rambling incorehently on the phone to fam about the fuckers, a issue I am trying to resolve as best I can. Thank god for having some vallium on hand and some martial arts experience to stay calmER so that instead of pestering fam like calling them at 8pm on a Thursday to bich about them starting with Oh fuck their's a mouse and it's in my very nice and expensive tea, and it's friends are trying to go foraging on the kitchen table (Even though it was cleaned with bleach) 

I think what set me on tilte more than usual was trying to do some of the PT excersizes getting up and finding out calmly waching me looking both interested and perplexed--then going to bed for and finding a different one on my bed munching on something looking at me like he/she owned the house. I'm sure my rant and and the hell do I do I asked dad about will go down in history eventually.

Question: What steps can I take in addition to take convince them the fams casita is deadly. 

So far I've put out easly 20 unique claptraps. The traditional kind.  With help from my friend sabina we started on  massive spring cleaning that was probably over do anyway.

I keep running out of traps to put out. Between being pretting sure it's not getting to the root of the problem and running out clap traps.

I have no clue what else can be done:

What else can be done?

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[Nick Thompson]

I dunno, folks.  Requiring a mouse to die of starvation thirst, or slow suffocation while its feet are glued to a piece of cardboard seriously does my animal rights, thing. And I am an enthusiastic meat eater.   Talk about restless leg syndrome.  Drowning would be better.  Best would be to have the courage to hit it with a hammer. 

 

Or use spring traps.  Bait UNSET traps with peanut butter for a few days to establish contact with the mice.  Make sure they are taking the peanut butter.  Then, one night set all the traps.  If you are squeamish, give yourself the dispensation to throw the caught mouse and trap together into the garbage and buy another trap.  I gave myself that dispensation for my 70^th birthday.  Tom, do you ever leave your doors open in nice weather?  I think our mice got in during the lovely fall weather and liked it so much they decided to stay. 

 

N

 

Nicholas S. Thompson

Emeritus Professor of Psychology and Biology

Clark University

http://home.earthlink.net/~nickthompson/naturaldesigns/

 

From: Friam [mailto:[hidden email]] On Behalf Of Frank Wimberly
Sent: Sunday, November 06, 2016 3:34 PM
To: The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group <[hidden email]>
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I've had good luck with sticky traps.  The only problem is that you have to throw a live mouse into the garbage can.  But we've only had about 4 mice in 17 years.

Frank

Frank Wimberly
Phone [phone]

 

On Nov 6, 2016 3:28 PM, "Tom Johnson" <[hidden email]> wrote:

We are having the same problem.  Supposedly Critter Control "sealed" the house.  Huh?  Yeah, the joke's on us.  So far I've resorted to buying quantities of traps from Amazon.  See https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01CH01PA4/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o01_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

 

TJ

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On Sun, Nov 6, 2016 at 11:09 AM, Gillian Densmore <[hidden email]> wrote:

I have a problem that I need help solving.

 

Mice.

 

History: About 8-9 days ago I found out I have a mouse problem. I tried calling the city's pest controll to evict them before matters got worse. They told me they don't deel with mice.

 

Problems: I can only guess just how bad the problem is. But it's safe to guess they're in the walls and or pipes someplace, because i've  thumped at least 4 possibly 5 the upstairs bathroom wich is...problematic at best.

 

Also It turns out I have a small feer of mice leading to rambling incorehently on the phone to fam about the fuckers, a issue I am trying to resolve as best I can. Thank god for having some vallium on hand and some martial arts experience to stay calmER so that instead of pestering fam like calling them at 8pm on a Thursday to bich about them starting with Oh fuck their's a mouse and it's in my very nice and expensive tea, and it's friends are trying to go foraging on the kitchen table (Even though it was cleaned with bleach) 

 

I think what set me on tilte more than usual was trying to do some of the PT excersizes getting up and finding out calmly waching me looking both interested and perplexed--then going to bed for and finding a different one on my bed munching on something looking at me like he/she owned the house. I'm sure my rant and and the hell do I do I asked dad about will go down in history eventually.

 

Question: What steps can I take in addition to take convince them the fams casita is deadly. 

 

So far I've put out easly 20 unique claptraps. The traditional kind.  With help from my friend sabina we started on  massive spring cleaning that was probably over do anyway.

I keep running out of traps to put out. Between being pretting sure it's not getting to the root of the problem and running out clap traps.

I have no clue what else can be done:

What else can be done?

 

 

 

 

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[George Duncan-2]

I solved my mice problem using four ultrasonic mice repellents from Amazon. There are a variety of brands available. 

George Duncan

Emeritus Professor of Statistics

Carnegie  Mellon  University  

GeorgeDuncanART.com

On Nov 6, 2016, at 3:28 PM, Tom Johnson <[hidden email]> wrote:

We are having the same problem.  Supposedly Critter Control "sealed" the house.  Huh?  Yeah, the joke's on us.  So far I've resorted to buying quantities of traps from Amazon.  See https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01CH01PA4/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o01_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

TJ

On Sun, Nov 6, 2016 at 11:09 AM, Gillian Densmore <[hidden email]> wrote:

I have a problem that I need help solving.

Mice.

History: About 8-9 days ago I found out I have a mouse problem. I tried calling the city's pest controll to evict them before matters got worse. They told me they don't deel with mice.

Problems: I can only guess just how bad the problem is. But it's safe to guess they're in the walls and or pipes someplace, because i've  thumped at least 4 possibly 5 the upstairs bathroom wich is...problematic at best.

Also It turns out I have a small feer of mice leading to rambling incorehently on the phone to fam about the fuckers, a issue I am trying to resolve as best I can. Thank god for having some vallium on hand and some martial arts experience to stay calmER so that instead of pestering fam like calling them at 8pm on a Thursday to bich about them starting with Oh fuck their's a mouse and it's in my very nice and expensive tea, and it's friends are trying to go foraging on the kitchen table (Even though it was cleaned with bleach) 

I think what set me on tilte more than usual was trying to do some of the PT excersizes getting up and finding out calmly waching me looking both interested and perplexed--then going to bed for and finding a different one on my bed munching on something looking at me like he/she owned the house. I'm sure my rant and and the hell do I do I asked dad about will go down in history eventually.

Question: What steps can I take in addition to take convince them the fams casita is deadly. 

So far I've put out easly 20 unique claptraps. The traditional kind.  With help from my friend sabina we started on  massive spring cleaning that was probably over do anyway.

I keep running out of traps to put out. Between being pretting sure it's not getting to the root of the problem and running out clap traps.

I have no clue what else can be done:

What else can be done?

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[Pamela McCorduck]

Oh, I just paid them a lot to “seal” the house. Joe and I lived with the mice and removed him with ways animal rights people would not approve of, but we didn’t need professionals. (Lots of activated charcoal bags to keep the smell down as putrefying mice had died where their corpses couldn’t be got at.) 

Animal rightists: I have my space; they have theirs. I am not the least ashamed of keeping those boundaries clear. Yes, in the very old days, I used mousing cats. Better?

On Nov 6, 2016, at 3:28 PM, Tom Johnson <[hidden email]> wrote:

We are having the same problem.  Supposedly Critter Control "sealed" the house.  Huh?  Yeah, the joke's on us.  So far I've resorted to buying quantities of traps from Amazon.  See https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01CH01PA4/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o01_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

TJ

On Sun, Nov 6, 2016 at 11:09 AM, Gillian Densmore <[hidden email]> wrote:

I have a problem that I need help solving.

Mice.

History: About 8-9 days ago I found out I have a mouse problem. I tried calling the city's pest controll to evict them before matters got worse. They told me they don't deel with mice.

Problems: I can only guess just how bad the problem is. But it's safe to guess they're in the walls and or pipes someplace, because i've  thumped at least 4 possibly 5 the upstairs bathroom wich is...problematic at best.

Also It turns out I have a small feer of mice leading to rambling incorehently on the phone to fam about the fuckers, a issue I am trying to resolve as best I can. Thank god for having some vallium on hand and some martial arts experience to stay calmER so that instead of pestering fam like calling them at 8pm on a Thursday to bich about them starting with Oh fuck their's a mouse and it's in my very nice and expensive tea, and it's friends are trying to go foraging on the kitchen table (Even though it was cleaned with bleach) 

I think what set me on tilte more than usual was trying to do some of the PT excersizes getting up and finding out calmly waching me looking both interested and perplexed--then going to bed for and finding a different one on my bed munching on something looking at me like he/she owned the house. I'm sure my rant and and the hell do I do I asked dad about will go down in history eventually.

Question: What steps can I take in addition to take convince them the fams casita is deadly. 

So far I've put out easly 20 unique claptraps. The traditional kind.  With help from my friend sabina we started on  massive spring cleaning that was probably over do anyway.

I keep running out of traps to put out. Between being pretting sure it's not getting to the root of the problem and running out clap traps.

I have no clue what else can be done:

What else can be done?

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[Pamela McCorduck]

OMG, removed THEM

On Nov 6, 2016, at 6:49 PM, Pamela McCorduck <[hidden email]> wrote:

Oh, I just paid them a lot to “seal” the house. Joe and I lived with the mice and removed him with ways animal rights people would not approve of, but we didn’t need professionals. (Lots of activated charcoal bags to keep the smell down as putrefying mice had died where their corpses couldn’t be got at.) 

Animal rightists: I have my space; they have theirs. I am not the least ashamed of keeping those boundaries clear. Yes, in the very old days, I used mousing cats. Better?

On Nov 6, 2016, at 3:28 PM, Tom Johnson <[hidden email]> wrote:

We are having the same problem.  Supposedly Critter Control "sealed" the house.  Huh?  Yeah, the joke's on us.  So far I've resorted to buying quantities of traps from Amazon.  See https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01CH01PA4/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o01_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

TJ

On Sun, Nov 6, 2016 at 11:09 AM, Gillian Densmore <[hidden email]> wrote:

I have a problem that I need help solving.

Mice.

History: About 8-9 days ago I found out I have a mouse problem. I tried calling the city's pest controll to evict them before matters got worse. They told me they don't deel with mice.

Problems: I can only guess just how bad the problem is. But it's safe to guess they're in the walls and or pipes someplace, because i've  thumped at least 4 possibly 5 the upstairs bathroom wich is...problematic at best.

Also It turns out I have a small feer of mice leading to rambling incorehently on the phone to fam about the fuckers, a issue I am trying to resolve as best I can. Thank god for having some vallium on hand and some martial arts experience to stay calmER so that instead of pestering fam like calling them at 8pm on a Thursday to bich about them starting with Oh fuck their's a mouse and it's in my very nice and expensive tea, and it's friends are trying to go foraging on the kitchen table (Even though it was cleaned with bleach) 

I think what set me on tilte more than usual was trying to do some of the PT excersizes getting up and finding out calmly waching me looking both interested and perplexed--then going to bed for and finding a different one on my bed munching on something looking at me like he/she owned the house. I'm sure my rant and and the hell do I do I asked dad about will go down in history eventually.

Question: What steps can I take in addition to take convince them the fams casita is deadly. 

So far I've put out easly 20 unique claptraps. The traditional kind.  With help from my friend sabina we started on  massive spring cleaning that was probably over do anyway.

I keep running out of traps to put out. Between being pretting sure it's not getting to the root of the problem and running out clap traps.

I have no clue what else can be done:

What else can be done?

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[Joe Spinden]

Someone I knew who grew up on a farm in North Dakota told me they did not name cats because they were just "pest control".

On 11/6/16 6:56 PM, Pamela McCorduck wrote:

OMG, removed THEM

On Nov 6, 2016, at 6:49 PM, Pamela McCorduck <[hidden email]> wrote:

Oh, I just paid them a lot to “seal” the house. Joe and I lived with the mice and removed him with ways animal rights people would not approve of, but we didn’t need professionals. (Lots of activated charcoal bags to keep the smell down as putrefying mice had died where their corpses couldn’t be got at.) 

Animal rightists: I have my space; they have theirs. I am not the least ashamed of keeping those boundaries clear. Yes, in the very old days, I used mousing cats. Better?

On Nov 6, 2016, at 3:28 PM, Tom Johnson <[hidden email]> wrote:

We are having the same problem.  Supposedly Critter Control "sealed" the house.  Huh?  Yeah, the joke's on us.  So far I've resorted to buying quantities of traps from Amazon.  See https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01CH01PA4/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o01_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

TJ

On Sun, Nov 6, 2016 at 11:09 AM, Gillian Densmore <[hidden email]> wrote:

I have a problem that I need help solving.

Mice.

History: About 8-9 days ago I found out I have a mouse problem. I tried calling the city's pest controll to evict them before matters got worse. They told me they don't deel with mice.

Problems: I can only guess just how bad the problem is. But it's safe to guess they're in the walls and or pipes someplace, because i've  thumped at least 4 possibly 5 the upstairs bathroom wich is...problematic at best.

Also It turns out I have a small feer of mice leading to rambling incorehently on the phone to fam about the fuckers, a issue I am trying to resolve as best I can. Thank god for having some vallium on hand and some martial arts experience to stay calmER so that instead of pestering fam like calling them at 8pm on a Thursday to bich about them starting with Oh fuck their's a mouse and it's in my very nice and expensive tea, and it's friends are trying to go foraging on the kitchen table (Even though it was cleaned with bleach) 

I think what set me on tilte more than usual was trying to do some of the PT excersizes getting up and finding out calmly waching me looking both interested and perplexed--then going to bed for and finding a different one on my bed munching on something looking at me like he/she owned the house. I'm sure my rant and and the hell do I do I asked dad about will go down in history eventually.

Question: What steps can I take in addition to take convince them the fams casita is deadly. 

So far I've put out easly 20 unique claptraps. The traditional kind.  With help from my friend sabina we started on  massive spring cleaning that was probably over do anyway.

I keep running out of traps to put out. Between being pretting sure it's not getting to the root of the problem and running out clap traps.

I have no clue what else can be done:

What else can be done?

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[Nick Thompson]

Pamela,

 

People do a lot of silly stuff when they talk about whether animals suffer, as if some kind of death is something that could be avoided.  But speaking as somebody who studied animals for 50 years, I am pretty sure that gluing a mouse to a board and throwing it in the garbage causes suffering. 

 

nick

 

Nicholas S. Thompson

Emeritus Professor of Psychology and Biology

Clark University

http://home.earthlink.net/~nickthompson/naturaldesigns/

 

From: Friam [mailto:[hidden email]] On Behalf Of Pamela McCorduck
Sent: Sunday, November 06, 2016 6:50 PM
To: The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group <[hidden email]>
Subject: Re: [FRIAM] Mouse issue

 

Oh, I just paid them a lot to “seal” the house. Joe and I lived with the mice and removed him with ways animal rights people would not approve of, but we didn’t need professionals. (Lots of activated charcoal bags to keep the smell down as putrefying mice had died where their corpses couldn’t be got at.) 

 

Animal rightists: I have my space; they have theirs. I am not the least ashamed of keeping those boundaries clear. Yes, in the very old days, I used mousing cats. Better?

 

 

On Nov 6, 2016, at 3:28 PM, Tom Johnson <[hidden email]> wrote:

 

We are having the same problem.  Supposedly Critter Control "sealed" the house.  Huh?  Yeah, the joke's on us.  So far I've resorted to buying quantities of traps from Amazon.  See https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01CH01PA4/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o01_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

 

TJ

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On Sun, Nov 6, 2016 at 11:09 AM, Gillian Densmore <[hidden email]> wrote:

I have a problem that I need help solving.

 

Mice.

 

History: About 8-9 days ago I found out I have a mouse problem. I tried calling the city's pest controll to evict them before matters got worse. They told me they don't deel with mice.

 

Problems: I can only guess just how bad the problem is. But it's safe to guess they're in the walls and or pipes someplace, because i've  thumped at least 4 possibly 5 the upstairs bathroom wich is...problematic at best.

 

Also It turns out I have a small feer of mice leading to rambling incorehently on the phone to fam about the fuckers, a issue I am trying to resolve as best I can. Thank god for having some vallium on hand and some martial arts experience to stay calmER so that instead of pestering fam like calling them at 8pm on a Thursday to bich about them starting with Oh fuck their's a mouse and it's in my very nice and expensive tea, and it's friends are trying to go foraging on the kitchen table (Even though it was cleaned with bleach) 

 

I think what set me on tilte more than usual was trying to do some of the PT excersizes getting up and finding out calmly waching me looking both interested and perplexed--then going to bed for and finding a different one on my bed munching on something looking at me like he/she owned the house. I'm sure my rant and and the hell do I do I asked dad about will go down in history eventually.

 

Question: What steps can I take in addition to take convince them the fams casita is deadly. 

 

So far I've put out easly 20 unique claptraps. The traditional kind.  With help from my friend sabina we started on  massive spring cleaning that was probably over do anyway.

I keep running out of traps to put out. Between being pretting sure it's not getting to the root of the problem and running out clap traps.

I have no clue what else can be done:

What else can be done?

 

 

 

 

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For your consideration:
  https://youtu.be/lrJ7er87ipA

Miles's stop motion homework a couple weeks ago.

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