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Nick Thompson

Monitoring Data Usage

Hi,

You will recall that when I am in Massachusetts, I get all of my internet over a Verizon hotspot. It a bit like eating lunch with a shark. Every once in while you find out that you’re missing part of your arm. So, I have been looking around on the web for an app which will tell me which one of my activities … podcasts, websites, upgrades, updates, etc. … is using up data. Now, I figure, being pros, most of you, you all live in places that have unmetered broad band. So I don’t expect many of you to share my problem. But perhaps one of you has? There are several apps that seem perhaps to be relevant. One is “Glasswire”. Is anybody familiar with it?

I hope you are all summering well.

Nick

Nicholas S. Thompson

Emeritus Professor of Psychology and Biology

Clark University

http://home.earthlink.net/~nickthompson/naturaldesigns/

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Sarbajit Roy (testing)

Re: Monitoring Data Usage

Try Networx
https://www.softperfect.com/products/networx/manual/

On Mon, Aug 1, 2016 at 6:55 AM, Nick Thompson <[hidden email]> wrote:

Hi,

You will recall that when I am in Massachusetts, I get all of my internet over a Verizon hotspot. It a bit like eating lunch with a shark. Every once in while you find out that you’re missing part of your arm. So, I have been looking around on the web for an app which will tell me which one of my activities … podcasts, websites, upgrades, updates, etc. … is using up data. Now, I figure, being pros, most of you, you all live in places that have unmetered broad band. So I don’t expect many of you to share my problem. But perhaps one of you has? There are several apps that seem perhaps to be relevant. One is “Glasswire”. Is anybody familiar with it?

I hope you are all summering well.

Nick

Nicholas S. Thompson
Emeritus Professor of Psychology and Biology
Clark University
http://home.earthlink.net/~nickthompson/naturaldesigns/

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Nick Thompson

Re: Monitoring Data Usage

Hi, Sarbajit,

Thanks for the tip. I studied on it for a bit and think it isn’t designed to do what I most need to have done. It would tell me if my problem is, say, HP updates, or Firefox websites. But, unless I am wrong, it won’t tell me which of the websites I am contacting is doing the dirty. For instance, I spend a lot of time looking at animated radar displays? They are only ten frames long, and don’t seem very “verbose”, how can I tell for sure.. Perhaps by logging my activities by hand and then using the time logging feature of Neworx I might figure it out. Ideally, the program I am looking for would give me the amount of data used up for each website contacted. Given the rarity of the problem, the software probably doesn’t exist.

Anyway, thanks for the suggestion. I will explore it more closely tomorrow.

Nick

Nicholas S. Thompson

Emeritus Professor of Psychology and Biology

Clark University

http://home.earthlink.net/~nickthompson/naturaldesigns/

From: Friam [mailto:[hidden email]] On Behalf Of Sarbajit Roy
Sent: Sunday, July 31, 2016 10:35 PM
To: The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group <[hidden email]>
Subject: Re: [FRIAM] Monitoring Data Usage

Try Networx
https://www.softperfect.com/products/networx/manual/

On Mon, Aug 1, 2016 at 6:55 AM, Nick Thompson <[hidden email]> wrote:

Hi,

You will recall that when I am in Massachusetts, I get all of my internet over a Verizon hotspot. It a bit like eating lunch with a shark. Every once in while you find out that you’re missing part of your arm. So, I have been looking around on the web for an app which will tell me which one of my activities … podcasts, websites, upgrades, updates, etc. … is using up data. Now, I figure, being pros, most of you, you all live in places that have unmetered broad band. So I don’t expect many of you to share my problem. But perhaps one of you has? There are several apps that seem perhaps to be relevant. One is “Glasswire”. Is anybody familiar with it?

I hope you are all summering well.

Nick

Nicholas S. Thompson
Emeritus Professor of Psychology and Biology
Clark University
http://home.earthlink.net/~nickthompson/naturaldesigns/

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Marcus G. Daniels

Re: Monitoring Data Usage

One idea would be to configure your web browser to use a proxy server that was a parental control router.

http://www.blocksi.net/parental-control.php

Then you could use the analytics in the router software to study your own behavior (instead of a child’s).

There may be cloud-based services for this too. For example, many organizations block prohibited content of various sorts for their employees or patrons, and would typically need to make use of a global database to do it. They wouldn’t maintain the blacklist themselves, but would have some service provider making inventories of various bad stuff. Anyway, censorship tools for kids or grown-ups will likely have the ability to measure bandwidth as a side feature.

From: Friam [mailto:[hidden email]] On Behalf Of Nick Thompson
Sent: Sunday, July 31, 2016 11:34 PM
To: 'The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group' <[hidden email]>
Subject: Re: [FRIAM] Monitoring Data Usage

Hi, Sarbajit,

Anyway, thanks for the suggestion. I will explore it more closely tomorrow.

Nick

Nicholas S. Thompson

Emeritus Professor of Psychology and Biology

Clark University

http://home.earthlink.net/~nickthompson/naturaldesigns/

From: Friam [[hidden email]] On Behalf Of Sarbajit Roy
Sent: Sunday, July 31, 2016 10:35 PM
To: The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group <[hidden email]>
Subject: Re: [FRIAM] Monitoring Data Usage

Try Networx
https://www.softperfect.com/products/networx/manual/

On Mon, Aug 1, 2016 at 6:55 AM, Nick Thompson <[hidden email]> wrote:

Hi,

You will recall that when I am in Massachusetts, I get all of my internet over a Verizon hotspot. It a bit like eating lunch with a shark. Every once in while you find out that you’re missing part of your arm. So, I have been looking around on the web for an app which will tell me which one of my activities … podcasts, websites, upgrades, updates, etc. … is using up data. Now, I figure, being pros, most of you, you all live in places that have unmetered broad band. So I don’t expect many of you to share my problem. But perhaps one of you has? There are several apps that seem perhaps to be relevant. One is “Glasswire”. Is anybody familiar with it?

I hope you are all summering well.

Nick

Nicholas S. Thompson

Emeritus Professor of Psychology and Biology

Clark University

http://home.earthlink.net/~nickthompson/naturaldesigns/

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Joe Spinden

Re: Monitoring Data Usage

In reply to this post by Nick Thompson

Nick,

I assume you use a Windows system ? On a Mac you can look at the System Monitor to get information which seems to be what you are looking for. Perhaps others here can suggest a similar program on a Windows system.

Joe

On 7/31/16 11:34 PM, Nick Thompson wrote:

Hi, Sarbajit,

Thanks for the tip. I studied on it for a bit and think it isn’t designed to do what I most need to have done. It would tell me if my problem is, say, HP updates, or Firefox websites. But, unless I am wrong, it won’t tell me which of the websites I am contacting is doing the dirty. For instance, I spend a lot of time looking at animated radar displays? They are only ten frames long, and don’t seem very “verbose”, how can I tell for sure.. Perhaps by logging my activities by hand and then using the time logging feature of Neworx I might figure it out. Ideally, the program I am looking for would give me the amount of data used up for each website contacted. Given the rarity of the problem, the software probably doesn’t exist.

Anyway, thanks for the suggestion. I will explore it more closely tomorrow.

Nick

Nicholas S. Thompson

Emeritus Professor of Psychology and Biology

Clark University

http://home.earthlink.net/~nickthompson/naturaldesigns/

From: Friam [[hidden email]] On Behalf Of Sarbajit Roy
Sent: Sunday, July 31, 2016 10:35 PM
To: The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group [hidden email]
Subject: Re: [FRIAM] Monitoring Data Usage

Try Networx
https://www.softperfect.com/products/networx/manual/

On Mon, Aug 1, 2016 at 6:55 AM, Nick Thompson <[hidden email]> wrote:

Hi,

You will recall that when I am in Massachusetts, I get all of my internet over a Verizon hotspot. It a bit like eating lunch with a shark. Every once in while you find out that you’re missing part of your arm. So, I have been looking around on the web for an app which will tell me which one of my activities … podcasts, websites, upgrades, updates, etc. … is using up data. Now, I figure, being pros, most of you, you all live in places that have unmetered broad band. So I don’t expect many of you to share my problem. But perhaps one of you has? There are several apps that seem perhaps to be relevant. One is “Glasswire”. Is anybody familiar with it?

I hope you are all summering well.

Nick

Nicholas S. Thompson

Emeritus Professor of Psychology and Biology

Clark University

http://home.earthlink.net/~nickthompson/naturaldesigns/

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Nick Thompson

Re: Monitoring Data Usage

Thanks, Joe,

Yes. HP Win7 PC, for my sins.

There are a couple of things that may do it … Glasswire being the most promising.

Being what Owen calls a “citizen”, I am very slow to download exe’s on spec. Until I get desperate. I don’t like to be the first penguin off the floe.

Nick

Nicholas S. Thompson

Emeritus Professor of Psychology and Biology

Clark University

http://home.earthlink.net/~nickthompson/naturaldesigns/

From: Friam [mailto:[hidden email]] On Behalf Of Joe Spinden
Sent: Monday, August 01, 2016 9:00 AM
To: The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group <[hidden email]>
Subject: Re: [FRIAM] Monitoring Data Usage

Nick,

Joe

On 7/31/16 11:34 PM, Nick Thompson wrote:

Hi, Sarbajit,

Thanks for the tip. I studied on it for a bit and think it isn’t designed to do what I most need to have done. It would tell me if my problem is, say, HP updates, or Firefox websites. But, unless I am wrong, it won’t tell me which of the websites I am contacting is doing the dirty. For instance, I spend a lot of time looking at animated radar displays? They are only ten frames long, and don’t seem very “verbose”, how can I tell for sure.. Perhaps by logging my activities by hand and then using the time logging feature of Neworx I might figure it out. Ideally, the program I am looking for would give me the amount of data used up for each website contacted. Given the rarity of the problem, the software probably doesn’t exist.

Anyway, thanks for the suggestion. I will explore it more closely tomorrow.

Nick

Nicholas S. Thompson
Emeritus Professor of Psychology and Biology
Clark University
http://home.earthlink.net/~nickthompson/naturaldesigns/

From: Friam [[hidden email]] On Behalf Of Sarbajit Roy
Sent: Sunday, July 31, 2016 10:35 PM
To: The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group [hidden email]
Subject: Re: [FRIAM] Monitoring Data Usage

Try Networx
https://www.softperfect.com/products/networx/manual/

On Mon, Aug 1, 2016 at 6:55 AM, Nick Thompson <[hidden email]> wrote:
Hi,

You will recall that when I am in Massachusetts, I get all of my internet over a Verizon hotspot. It a bit like eating lunch with a shark. Every once in while you find out that you’re missing part of your arm. So, I have been looking around on the web for an app which will tell me which one of my activities … podcasts, websites, upgrades, updates, etc. … is using up data. Now, I figure, being pros, most of you, you all live in places that have unmetered broad band. So I don’t expect many of you to share my problem. But perhaps one of you has? There are several apps that seem perhaps to be relevant. One is “Glasswire”. Is anybody familiar with it?

I hope you are all summering well.

Nick

Nicholas S. Thompson
Emeritus Professor of Psychology and Biology
Clark University
http://home.earthlink.net/~nickthompson/naturaldesigns/

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Owen Densmore

Re: Monitoring Data Usage

Administrator

Civilian. And Dede convinced me to no longer use the term. It was a Silly Vally way to describe a noob. Or worse! :)

On Mon, Aug 1, 2016 at 8:41 AM, Nick Thompson <[hidden email]> wrote:

Thanks, Joe,

Yes. HP Win7 PC, for my sins.

There are a couple of things that may do it … Glasswire being the most promising.

Being what Owen calls a “citizen”, I am very slow to download exe’s on spec. Until I get desperate. I don’t like to be the first penguin off the floe.

Nick

Nicholas S. Thompson
Emeritus Professor of Psychology and Biology
Clark University
http://home.earthlink.net/~nickthompson/naturaldesigns/

From: Friam [mailto:[hidden email]] On Behalf Of Joe Spinden
Sent: Monday, August 01, 2016 9:00 AM

To: The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group <[hidden email]>
Subject: Re: [FRIAM] Monitoring Data Usage
Nick,
I assume you use a Windows system ? On a Mac you can look at the System Monitor to get information which seems to be what you are looking for. Perhaps others here can suggest a similar program on a Windows system.
Joe

On 7/31/16 11:34 PM, Nick Thompson wrote:
Hi, Sarbajit,

Thanks for the tip. I studied on it for a bit and think it isn’t designed to do what I most need to have done. It would tell me if my problem is, say, HP updates, or Firefox websites. But, unless I am wrong, it won’t tell me which of the websites I am contacting is doing the dirty. For instance, I spend a lot of time looking at animated radar displays? They are only ten frames long, and don’t seem very “verbose”, how can I tell for sure.. Perhaps by logging my activities by hand and then using the time logging feature of Neworx I might figure it out. Ideally, the program I am looking for would give me the amount of data used up for each website contacted. Given the rarity of the problem, the software probably doesn’t exist.

Anyway, thanks for the suggestion. I will explore it more closely tomorrow.

Nick

Nicholas S. Thompson
Emeritus Professor of Psychology and Biology
Clark University
http://home.earthlink.net/~nickthompson/naturaldesigns/

From: Friam [[hidden email]] On Behalf Of Sarbajit Roy
Sent: Sunday, July 31, 2016 10:35 PM
To: The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group [hidden email]
Subject: Re: [FRIAM] Monitoring Data Usage

Try Networx
https://www.softperfect.com/products/networx/manual/

On Mon, Aug 1, 2016 at 6:55 AM, Nick Thompson <[hidden email]> wrote:
Hi,

You will recall that when I am in Massachusetts, I get all of my internet over a Verizon hotspot. It a bit like eating lunch with a shark. Every once in while you find out that you’re missing part of your arm. So, I have been looking around on the web for an app which will tell me which one of my activities … podcasts, websites, upgrades, updates, etc. … is using up data. Now, I figure, being pros, most of you, you all live in places that have unmetered broad band. So I don’t expect many of you to share my problem. But perhaps one of you has? There are several apps that seem perhaps to be relevant. One is “Glasswire”. Is anybody familiar with it?

I hope you are all summering well.

Nick

Nicholas S. Thompson
Emeritus Professor of Psychology and Biology
Clark University
http://home.earthlink.net/~nickthompson/naturaldesigns/

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Nick Thompson

Re: Monitoring Data Usage

Owen,

“Civilian,” it is. How could I forget! Dede is of course, right, in this, as in all matters. Still, I would rather be a “civilian” than a “noob”. Gosh. What IS a noob?

I am of the view that we are all civilians with respect to any software that we did not use yesterday, or perhaps the day before. Each of us has SOME LITTLE THING to teach each of the others, about technology. I, for instance, know about Elevated Mixed Layers.

Take care, my friend.

Nick

Nicholas S. Thompson

Emeritus Professor of Psychology and Biology

Clark University

http://home.earthlink.net/~nickthompson/naturaldesigns/

From: Friam [mailto:[hidden email]] On Behalf Of Owen Densmore
Sent: Monday, August 01, 2016 11:20 AM
To: The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group <[hidden email]>
Subject: Re: [FRIAM] Monitoring Data Usage

Civilian. And Dede convinced me to no longer use the term. It was a Silly Vally way to describe a noob. Or worse! :)

On Mon, Aug 1, 2016 at 8:41 AM, Nick Thompson <[hidden email]> wrote:

Thanks, Joe,

Yes. HP Win7 PC, for my sins.

There are a couple of things that may do it … Glasswire being the most promising.

Being what Owen calls a “citizen”, I am very slow to download exe’s on spec. Until I get desperate. I don’t like to be the first penguin off the floe.

Nick

Nicholas S. Thompson
Emeritus Professor of Psychology and Biology
Clark University
http://home.earthlink.net/~nickthompson/naturaldesigns/

From: Friam [mailto:[hidden email]] On Behalf Of Joe Spinden
Sent: Monday, August 01, 2016 9:00 AM

To: The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group <[hidden email]>
Subject: Re: [FRIAM] Monitoring Data Usage
Nick,
I assume you use a Windows system ? On a Mac you can look at the System Monitor to get information which seems to be what you are looking for. Perhaps others here can suggest a similar program on a Windows system.
Joe

On 7/31/16 11:34 PM, Nick Thompson wrote:
Hi, Sarbajit,

Thanks for the tip. I studied on it for a bit and think it isn’t designed to do what I most need to have done. It would tell me if my problem is, say, HP updates, or Firefox websites. But, unless I am wrong, it won’t tell me which of the websites I am contacting is doing the dirty. For instance, I spend a lot of time looking at animated radar displays? They are only ten frames long, and don’t seem very “verbose”, how can I tell for sure.. Perhaps by logging my activities by hand and then using the time logging feature of Neworx I might figure it out. Ideally, the program I am looking for would give me the amount of data used up for each website contacted. Given the rarity of the problem, the software probably doesn’t exist.

Anyway, thanks for the suggestion. I will explore it more closely tomorrow.

Nick

Nicholas S. Thompson
Emeritus Professor of Psychology and Biology
Clark University
http://home.earthlink.net/~nickthompson/naturaldesigns/

From: Friam [[hidden email]] On Behalf Of Sarbajit Roy
Sent: Sunday, July 31, 2016 10:35 PM
To: The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group [hidden email]
Subject: Re: [FRIAM] Monitoring Data Usage

Try Networx
https://www.softperfect.com/products/networx/manual/

On Mon, Aug 1, 2016 at 6:55 AM, Nick Thompson <[hidden email]> wrote:
Hi,

You will recall that when I am in Massachusetts, I get all of my internet over a Verizon hotspot. It a bit like eating lunch with a shark. Every once in while you find out that you’re missing part of your arm. So, I have been looking around on the web for an app which will tell me which one of my activities … podcasts, websites, upgrades, updates, etc. … is using up data. Now, I figure, being pros, most of you, you all live in places that have unmetered broad band. So I don’t expect many of you to share my problem. But perhaps one of you has? There are several apps that seem perhaps to be relevant. One is “Glasswire”. Is anybody familiar with it?

I hope you are all summering well.

Nick

Nicholas S. Thompson
Emeritus Professor of Psychology and Biology
Clark University
http://home.earthlink.net/~nickthompson/naturaldesigns/

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Gillian Densmore

Re: Monitoring Data Usage

Hail Nick!

Ah I see you have met one of the many Dwarfs of a Above Average Phone!

On my Android I ask it to yell realy loudly. When it yells realy real loudly (uses WIFI) mine doesn't use data.

May haps that's one option

If your house there has (regular) internet that might work.

Else you'll be talking to Veri Zone

On Mon, Aug 1, 2016 at 2:48 PM, Nick Thompson <[hidden email]> wrote:

Owen,

“Civilian,” it is. How could I forget! Dede is of course, right, in this, as in all matters. Still, I would rather be a “civilian” than a “noob”. Gosh. What IS a noob?

I am of the view that we are all civilians with respect to any software that we did not use yesterday, or perhaps the day before. Each of us has SOME LITTLE THING to teach each of the others, about technology. I, for instance, know about Elevated Mixed Layers.

Take care, my friend.

Nick

Nicholas S. Thompson
Emeritus Professor of Psychology and Biology
Clark University
http://home.earthlink.net/~nickthompson/naturaldesigns/

From: Friam [mailto:[hidden email]] On Behalf Of Owen Densmore
Sent: Monday, August 01, 2016 11:20 AM

To: The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group <[hidden email]>
Subject: Re: [FRIAM] Monitoring Data Usage
Civilian. And Dede convinced me to no longer use the term. It was a Silly Vally way to describe a noob. Or worse! :)
On Mon, Aug 1, 2016 at 8:41 AM, Nick Thompson <[hidden email]> wrote:
Thanks, Joe,

Yes. HP Win7 PC, for my sins.

There are a couple of things that may do it … Glasswire being the most promising.

Being what Owen calls a “citizen”, I am very slow to download exe’s on spec. Until I get desperate. I don’t like to be the first penguin off the floe.

Nick

Nicholas S. Thompson
Emeritus Professor of Psychology and Biology
Clark University
http://home.earthlink.net/~nickthompson/naturaldesigns/

From: Friam [mailto:[hidden email]] On Behalf Of Joe Spinden
Sent: Monday, August 01, 2016 9:00 AM

To: The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group <[hidden email]>
Subject: Re: [FRIAM] Monitoring Data Usage
Nick,
I assume you use a Windows system ? On a Mac you can look at the System Monitor to get information which seems to be what you are looking for. Perhaps others here can suggest a similar program on a Windows system.
Joe

On 7/31/16 11:34 PM, Nick Thompson wrote:
Hi, Sarbajit,

Thanks for the tip. I studied on it for a bit and think it isn’t designed to do what I most need to have done. It would tell me if my problem is, say, HP updates, or Firefox websites. But, unless I am wrong, it won’t tell me which of the websites I am contacting is doing the dirty. For instance, I spend a lot of time looking at animated radar displays? They are only ten frames long, and don’t seem very “verbose”, how can I tell for sure.. Perhaps by logging my activities by hand and then using the time logging feature of Neworx I might figure it out. Ideally, the program I am looking for would give me the amount of data used up for each website contacted. Given the rarity of the problem, the software probably doesn’t exist.

Anyway, thanks for the suggestion. I will explore it more closely tomorrow.

Nick

Nicholas S. Thompson
Emeritus Professor of Psychology and Biology
Clark University
http://home.earthlink.net/~nickthompson/naturaldesigns/

From: Friam [[hidden email]] On Behalf Of Sarbajit Roy
Sent: Sunday, July 31, 2016 10:35 PM
To: The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group [hidden email]
Subject: Re: [FRIAM] Monitoring Data Usage

Try Networx
https://www.softperfect.com/products/networx/manual/

On Mon, Aug 1, 2016 at 6:55 AM, Nick Thompson <[hidden email]> wrote:
Hi,

You will recall that when I am in Massachusetts, I get all of my internet over a Verizon hotspot. It a bit like eating lunch with a shark. Every once in while you find out that you’re missing part of your arm. So, I have been looking around on the web for an app which will tell me which one of my activities … podcasts, websites, upgrades, updates, etc. … is using up data. Now, I figure, being pros, most of you, you all live in places that have unmetered broad band. So I don’t expect many of you to share my problem. But perhaps one of you has? There are several apps that seem perhaps to be relevant. One is “Glasswire”. Is anybody familiar with it?

I hope you are all summering well.

Nick

Nicholas S. Thompson
Emeritus Professor of Psychology and Biology
Clark University
http://home.earthlink.net/~nickthompson/naturaldesigns/

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Joe Spinden

Monitoring Users..

Some here might find this of interest..

https://theintercept.com/2016/07/29/a-famed-hacker-is-grading-thousands-of-programs-and-may-revolutionize-software-in-the-process/

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Sarbajit Roy (testing)

Re: Monitoring Data Usage

In reply to this post by Nick Thompson

Hi Nick

I guess you want to identify the sites / processes on your Win-7 PC which are hogging your bandwidth.

You will have to use the aptly named Win-7 "Task Manager" for this which is accessed by pressing the "Ctrl-Alt-Del" keys simultaneously.

After "Starting the Task Manager", click the "Performance" button (on top), this will give you access to the "Resource Monitor" button (bottom right hand). Click.

Then click "Network" on top. ....

Using this tool, I was able to establish (sufficiently for my own intellectual satisfaction) that Google, in India, was secretly "stealing" (or utilising) the bandwidth and drives of users with high-speed connections for 'peering' which was making their services faster than their competitors.

Sarbajit

On Tue, Aug 2, 2016 at 2:18 AM, Nick Thompson <[hidden email]> wrote:

Owen,

“Civilian,” it is. How could I forget! Dede is of course, right, in this, as in all matters. Still, I would rather be a “civilian” than a “noob”. Gosh. What IS a noob?

I am of the view that we are all civilians with respect to any software that we did not use yesterday, or perhaps the day before. Each of us has SOME LITTLE THING to teach each of the others, about technology. I, for instance, know about Elevated Mixed Layers.

Take care, my friend.

Nick

Nicholas S. Thompson
Emeritus Professor of Psychology and Biology
Clark University
http://home.earthlink.net/~nickthompson/naturaldesigns/

From: Friam [mailto:[hidden email]] On Behalf Of Owen Densmore
Sent: Monday, August 01, 2016 11:20 AM

To: The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group <[hidden email]>
Subject: Re: [FRIAM] Monitoring Data Usage
Civilian. And Dede convinced me to no longer use the term. It was a Silly Vally way to describe a noob. Or worse! :)
On Mon, Aug 1, 2016 at 8:41 AM, Nick Thompson <[hidden email]> wrote:
Thanks, Joe,

Yes. HP Win7 PC, for my sins.

There are a couple of things that may do it … Glasswire being the most promising.

Being what Owen calls a “citizen”, I am very slow to download exe’s on spec. Until I get desperate. I don’t like to be the first penguin off the floe.

Nick

Nicholas S. Thompson
Emeritus Professor of Psychology and Biology
Clark University
http://home.earthlink.net/~nickthompson/naturaldesigns/

From: Friam [mailto:[hidden email]] On Behalf Of Joe Spinden
Sent: Monday, August 01, 2016 9:00 AM

To: The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group <[hidden email]>
Subject: Re: [FRIAM] Monitoring Data Usage
Nick,
I assume you use a Windows system ? On a Mac you can look at the System Monitor to get information which seems to be what you are looking for. Perhaps others here can suggest a similar program on a Windows system.
Joe

On 7/31/16 11:34 PM, Nick Thompson wrote:
Hi, Sarbajit,

Thanks for the tip. I studied on it for a bit and think it isn’t designed to do what I most need to have done. It would tell me if my problem is, say, HP updates, or Firefox websites. But, unless I am wrong, it won’t tell me which of the websites I am contacting is doing the dirty. For instance, I spend a lot of time looking at animated radar displays? They are only ten frames long, and don’t seem very “verbose”, how can I tell for sure.. Perhaps by logging my activities by hand and then using the time logging feature of Neworx I might figure it out. Ideally, the program I am looking for would give me the amount of data used up for each website contacted. Given the rarity of the problem, the software probably doesn’t exist.

Anyway, thanks for the suggestion. I will explore it more closely tomorrow.

Nick

Nicholas S. Thompson
Emeritus Professor of Psychology and Biology
Clark University
http://home.earthlink.net/~nickthompson/naturaldesigns/

From: Friam [[hidden email]] On Behalf Of Sarbajit Roy
Sent: Sunday, July 31, 2016 10:35 PM
To: The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group [hidden email]
Subject: Re: [FRIAM] Monitoring Data Usage

Try Networx
https://www.softperfect.com/products/networx/manual/

On Mon, Aug 1, 2016 at 6:55 AM, Nick Thompson <[hidden email]> wrote:
Hi,

You will recall that when I am in Massachusetts, I get all of my internet over a Verizon hotspot. It a bit like eating lunch with a shark. Every once in while you find out that you’re missing part of your arm. So, I have been looking around on the web for an app which will tell me which one of my activities … podcasts, websites, upgrades, updates, etc. … is using up data. Now, I figure, being pros, most of you, you all live in places that have unmetered broad band. So I don’t expect many of you to share my problem. But perhaps one of you has? There are several apps that seem perhaps to be relevant. One is “Glasswire”. Is anybody familiar with it?

I hope you are all summering well.

Nick

Nicholas S. Thompson
Emeritus Professor of Psychology and Biology
Clark University
http://home.earthlink.net/~nickthompson/naturaldesigns/

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Nick Thompson

Re: Monitoring Data Usage

Thanks, Sarbajit,

The task manager is really interesting. I caught Skype using my computer for “housekeeping” some years back, which it turns out, I had agreed to let them do. Oh that fine print.

Thanks,

Nick

Nicholas S. Thompson

Emeritus Professor of Psychology and Biology

Clark University

http://home.earthlink.net/~nickthompson/naturaldesigns/

From: Friam [mailto:[hidden email]] On Behalf Of Sarbajit Roy
Sent: Tuesday, August 02, 2016 12:41 AM
To: The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group <[hidden email]>
Subject: Re: [FRIAM] Monitoring Data Usage

Hi Nick

I guess you want to identify the sites / processes on your Win-7 PC which are hogging your bandwidth.

You will have to use the aptly named Win-7 "Task Manager" for this which is accessed by pressing the "Ctrl-Alt-Del" keys simultaneously.

After "Starting the Task Manager", click the "Performance" button (on top), this will give you access to the "Resource Monitor" button (bottom right hand). Click.

Then click "Network" on top. ....

Sarbajit

On Tue, Aug 2, 2016 at 2:18 AM, Nick Thompson <[hidden email]> wrote:

Owen,

“Civilian,” it is. How could I forget! Dede is of course, right, in this, as in all matters. Still, I would rather be a “civilian” than a “noob”. Gosh. What IS a noob?

I am of the view that we are all civilians with respect to any software that we did not use yesterday, or perhaps the day before. Each of us has SOME LITTLE THING to teach each of the others, about technology. I, for instance, know about Elevated Mixed Layers.

Take care, my friend.

Nick

Nicholas S. Thompson
Emeritus Professor of Psychology and Biology
Clark University
http://home.earthlink.net/~nickthompson/naturaldesigns/

From: Friam [mailto:[hidden email]] On Behalf Of Owen Densmore
Sent: Monday, August 01, 2016 11:20 AM

To: The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group <[hidden email]>
Subject: Re: [FRIAM] Monitoring Data Usage
Civilian. And Dede convinced me to no longer use the term. It was a Silly Vally way to describe a noob. Or worse! :)
On Mon, Aug 1, 2016 at 8:41 AM, Nick Thompson <[hidden email]> wrote:
Thanks, Joe,

Yes. HP Win7 PC, for my sins.

There are a couple of things that may do it … Glasswire being the most promising.

Being what Owen calls a “citizen”, I am very slow to download exe’s on spec. Until I get desperate. I don’t like to be the first penguin off the floe.

Nick

Nicholas S. Thompson
Emeritus Professor of Psychology and Biology
Clark University
http://home.earthlink.net/~nickthompson/naturaldesigns/

From: Friam [mailto:[hidden email]] On Behalf Of Joe Spinden
Sent: Monday, August 01, 2016 9:00 AM

To: The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group <[hidden email]>
Subject: Re: [FRIAM] Monitoring Data Usage
Nick,
I assume you use a Windows system ? On a Mac you can look at the System Monitor to get information which seems to be what you are looking for. Perhaps others here can suggest a similar program on a Windows system.
Joe

On 7/31/16 11:34 PM, Nick Thompson wrote:
Hi, Sarbajit,

Thanks for the tip. I studied on it for a bit and think it isn’t designed to do what I most need to have done. It would tell me if my problem is, say, HP updates, or Firefox websites. But, unless I am wrong, it won’t tell me which of the websites I am contacting is doing the dirty. For instance, I spend a lot of time looking at animated radar displays? They are only ten frames long, and don’t seem very “verbose”, how can I tell for sure.. Perhaps by logging my activities by hand and then using the time logging feature of Neworx I might figure it out. Ideally, the program I am looking for would give me the amount of data used up for each website contacted. Given the rarity of the problem, the software probably doesn’t exist.

Anyway, thanks for the suggestion. I will explore it more closely tomorrow.

Nick

Nicholas S. Thompson
Emeritus Professor of Psychology and Biology
Clark University
http://home.earthlink.net/~nickthompson/naturaldesigns/

From: Friam [[hidden email]] On Behalf Of Sarbajit Roy
Sent: Sunday, July 31, 2016 10:35 PM
To: The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group [hidden email]
Subject: Re: [FRIAM] Monitoring Data Usage

Try Networx
https://www.softperfect.com/products/networx/manual/

On Mon, Aug 1, 2016 at 6:55 AM, Nick Thompson <[hidden email]> wrote:
Hi,

You will recall that when I am in Massachusetts, I get all of my internet over a Verizon hotspot. It a bit like eating lunch with a shark. Every once in while you find out that you’re missing part of your arm. So, I have been looking around on the web for an app which will tell me which one of my activities … podcasts, websites, upgrades, updates, etc. … is using up data. Now, I figure, being pros, most of you, you all live in places that have unmetered broad band. So I don’t expect many of you to share my problem. But perhaps one of you has? There are several apps that seem perhaps to be relevant. One is “Glasswire”. Is anybody familiar with it?

I hope you are all summering well.

Nick

Nicholas S. Thompson
Emeritus Professor of Psychology and Biology
Clark University
http://home.earthlink.net/~nickthompson/naturaldesigns/

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Gillian Densmore

Re: Monitoring Data Usage

@Nick Did you mana to find what's eating data?

I don't know how you usually use the internet,

Basically when you use a cellphone for internet (totally fine) you start at Warp2 , then pretty quickly get nocked down to about Warp 0.5

Google's Chrome for FRIAM emailing (for instance) eh they don't care about that.

Watching Game of Thrones on Google Chrome through your Cell company they think is amusing and fine

On the other hand playing WarCraft over your phone, or as I just found out getting some Nordic music and Klingon style music for a KFA vacation they say is fine but now you're down to about Warp 0.5

Skype has a rep for not actually going away when you tell it to quit to as well

Windows 10 also does updates even when you ask it to let you know if a update is coming. For those of us on DSL those patches eat all the available space on the tube (GRR)

On Wed, Aug 3, 2016 at 10:39 AM, Nick Thompson <[hidden email]> wrote:

Thanks, Sarbajit,

The task manager is really interesting. I caught Skype using my computer for “housekeeping” some years back, which it turns out, I had agreed to let them do. Oh that fine print.

Thanks,

Nick

Nicholas S. Thompson
Emeritus Professor of Psychology and Biology
Clark University
http://home.earthlink.net/~nickthompson/naturaldesigns/

From: Friam [mailto:[hidden email]] On Behalf Of Sarbajit Roy
Sent: Tuesday, August 02, 2016 12:41 AM

To: The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group <[hidden email]>
Subject: Re: [FRIAM] Monitoring Data Usage
Hi Nick
I guess you want to identify the sites / processes on your Win-7 PC which are hogging your bandwidth.
You will have to use the aptly named Win-7 "Task Manager" for this which is accessed by pressing the "Ctrl-Alt-Del" keys simultaneously.
After "Starting the Task Manager", click the "Performance" button (on top), this will give you access to the "Resource Monitor" button (bottom right hand). Click.
Then click "Network" on top. ....
Using this tool, I was able to establish (sufficiently for my own intellectual satisfaction) that Google, in India, was secretly "stealing" (or utilising) the bandwidth and drives of users with high-speed connections for 'peering' which was making their services faster than their competitors.
Sarbajit
On Tue, Aug 2, 2016 at 2:18 AM, Nick Thompson <[hidden email]> wrote:
Owen,

“Civilian,” it is. How could I forget! Dede is of course, right, in this, as in all matters. Still, I would rather be a “civilian” than a “noob”. Gosh. What IS a noob?

I am of the view that we are all civilians with respect to any software that we did not use yesterday, or perhaps the day before. Each of us has SOME LITTLE THING to teach each of the others, about technology. I, for instance, know about Elevated Mixed Layers.

Take care, my friend.

Nick

Nicholas S. Thompson
Emeritus Professor of Psychology and Biology
Clark University
http://home.earthlink.net/~nickthompson/naturaldesigns/

From: Friam [mailto:[hidden email]] On Behalf Of Owen Densmore
Sent: Monday, August 01, 2016 11:20 AM

To: The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group <[hidden email]>
Subject: Re: [FRIAM] Monitoring Data Usage
Civilian. And Dede convinced me to no longer use the term. It was a Silly Vally way to describe a noob. Or worse! :)
On Mon, Aug 1, 2016 at 8:41 AM, Nick Thompson <[hidden email]> wrote:
Thanks, Joe,

Yes. HP Win7 PC, for my sins.

There are a couple of things that may do it … Glasswire being the most promising.

Being what Owen calls a “citizen”, I am very slow to download exe’s on spec. Until I get desperate. I don’t like to be the first penguin off the floe.

Nick

Nicholas S. Thompson
Emeritus Professor of Psychology and Biology
Clark University
http://home.earthlink.net/~nickthompson/naturaldesigns/

From: Friam [mailto:[hidden email]] On Behalf Of Joe Spinden
Sent: Monday, August 01, 2016 9:00 AM

To: The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group <[hidden email]>
Subject: Re: [FRIAM] Monitoring Data Usage
Nick,
I assume you use a Windows system ? On a Mac you can look at the System Monitor to get information which seems to be what you are looking for. Perhaps others here can suggest a similar program on a Windows system.
Joe

On 7/31/16 11:34 PM, Nick Thompson wrote:
Hi, Sarbajit,

Thanks for the tip. I studied on it for a bit and think it isn’t designed to do what I most need to have done. It would tell me if my problem is, say, HP updates, or Firefox websites. But, unless I am wrong, it won’t tell me which of the websites I am contacting is doing the dirty. For instance, I spend a lot of time looking at animated radar displays? They are only ten frames long, and don’t seem very “verbose”, how can I tell for sure.. Perhaps by logging my activities by hand and then using the time logging feature of Neworx I might figure it out. Ideally, the program I am looking for would give me the amount of data used up for each website contacted. Given the rarity of the problem, the software probably doesn’t exist.

Anyway, thanks for the suggestion. I will explore it more closely tomorrow.

Nick

Nicholas S. Thompson
Emeritus Professor of Psychology and Biology
Clark University
http://home.earthlink.net/~nickthompson/naturaldesigns/

From: Friam [[hidden email]] On Behalf Of Sarbajit Roy
Sent: Sunday, July 31, 2016 10:35 PM
To: The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group [hidden email]
Subject: Re: [FRIAM] Monitoring Data Usage

Try Networx
https://www.softperfect.com/products/networx/manual/

On Mon, Aug 1, 2016 at 6:55 AM, Nick Thompson <[hidden email]> wrote:
Hi,

You will recall that when I am in Massachusetts, I get all of my internet over a Verizon hotspot. It a bit like eating lunch with a shark. Every once in while you find out that you’re missing part of your arm. So, I have been looking around on the web for an app which will tell me which one of my activities … podcasts, websites, upgrades, updates, etc. … is using up data. Now, I figure, being pros, most of you, you all live in places that have unmetered broad band. So I don’t expect many of you to share my problem. But perhaps one of you has? There are several apps that seem perhaps to be relevant. One is “Glasswire”. Is anybody familiar with it?

I hope you are all summering well.

Nick

Nicholas S. Thompson
Emeritus Professor of Psychology and Biology
Clark University
http://home.earthlink.net/~nickthompson/naturaldesigns/

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