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Mild vs. Severe Symptoms

Jochen Fromm-5
Jeremy Egner, a NY Times editor, has been infected and hospitalized in NYC. He gives those who are seriously ill from the SARS-CoV-2 coronavirus a voice
https://www.nytimes.com/2020/03/27/sunday-review/coronavirus-hospitalized.html

Here in Europe he would be the exception, many politicians and celebrities who have the virus here have only very mild symptoms. For me, it sounds like the real number of asymptomatic carriers is much higher than we know. These asymptomatic carriers must be the driving force behind the exponential dissemination, while the severe cases spread terror. A fatal combination for a pandemic.
https://science.sciencemag.org/content/early/2020/03/24/science.abb3221

Maybe good time to take a Coursera course...
https://www.freecodecamp.org/news/coursera-free-online-courses-6d84cdb30da/

-J.


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Re: Mild vs. Severe Symptoms

Gillian Densmore
that and sweden and norway last I read 2 days ago are just going about their business. and fact is that taking care of yourself in the US (in general) is a huge problem. we have no NHS . Which means taking care of your health is fucking expensive!
What all that means is well before all hell broke lose america wasn't doing well for health at the start.
Add in a plague that we know very little about. 500 or so assholes. and potus that's willing to let people die because he's a patholgocial nutjob.
The mix of all that is what's fucking up the US's chances for a vastly quicker recovery.

I learned yesterday that a friend in NY is freaking out because (for now) she has just a dry caugh. the motherfucker? her doctors office is so swamped she can't get into double check if it's a cold, flue, alergies or...yeah that covid. She has a good chance it's a awful cold...anyone sane would like to know for sure though.

As to terror?
Media isn't helping. Neither is that somebitch and his two boyfriends. CNN is keeping people way more on edge than they might be. 45 won't  unass the funds neaded to rerbish, build and distrubute at least 6-7k ventilators, marshall what ever resorces they need, including enough medical staff to relieve workers who just about dead on there feat. That's a whole other level of terror because it means the GOP and 45 don't give a rats ass about human life. Ausvitz and the Blitz much?


A very small silver lining from this though. I hope this reads as the postive note its meant to be: this whole damn thing is showing humans can put bulshit aside against a world ending disaster.  



On Fri, Mar 27, 2020 at 4:56 PM Jochen Fromm <[hidden email]> wrote:
Jeremy Egner, a NY Times editor, has been infected and hospitalized in NYC. He gives those who are seriously ill from the SARS-CoV-2 coronavirus a voice

Here in Europe he would be the exception, many politicians and celebrities who have the virus here have only very mild symptoms. For me, it sounds like the real number of asymptomatic carriers is much higher than we know. These asymptomatic carriers must be the driving force behind the exponential dissemination, while the severe cases spread terror. A fatal combination for a pandemic.

Maybe good time to take a Coursera course...

-J.

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Jochen Fromm-5
There is hope. I am confident EU and US can develop a vaccine and a faster test. We need massive tests to make the invisible asymptomatic carriers visible. Those who have the virus must be immediately isolated even if they have only mild symptoms. Recently a 5-min test was approved! This sounds good. 
https://www.cnbc.com/2020/03/27/abbott-receives-approval-for-test-that-can-detect-coronavirus-in-as-little-as-5-minutes.html

-J.


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From: Gillian Densmore <[hidden email]>
Date: 3/28/20 06:06 (GMT+01:00)
To: The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group <[hidden email]>
Subject: Re: [FRIAM] Mild vs. Severe Symptoms

that and sweden and norway last I read 2 days ago are just going about their business. and fact is that taking care of yourself in the US (in general) is a huge problem. we have no NHS . Which means taking care of your health is fucking expensive!
What all that means is well before all hell broke lose america wasn't doing well for health at the start.
Add in a plague that we know very little about. 500 or so assholes. and potus that's willing to let people die because he's a patholgocial nutjob.
The mix of all that is what's fucking up the US's chances for a vastly quicker recovery.

I learned yesterday that a friend in NY is freaking out because (for now) she has just a dry caugh. the motherfucker? her doctors office is so swamped she can't get into double check if it's a cold, flue, alergies or...yeah that covid. She has a good chance it's a awful cold...anyone sane would like to know for sure though.

As to terror?
Media isn't helping. Neither is that somebitch and his two boyfriends. CNN is keeping people way more on edge than they might be. 45 won't  unass the funds neaded to rerbish, build and distrubute at least 6-7k ventilators, marshall what ever resorces they need, including enough medical staff to relieve workers who just about dead on there feat. That's a whole other level of terror because it means the GOP and 45 don't give a rats ass about human life. Ausvitz and the Blitz much?


A very small silver lining from this though. I hope this reads as the postive note its meant to be: this whole damn thing is showing humans can put bulshit aside against a world ending disaster.  



On Fri, Mar 27, 2020 at 4:56 PM Jochen Fromm <[hidden email]> wrote:
Jeremy Egner, a NY Times editor, has been infected and hospitalized in NYC. He gives those who are seriously ill from the SARS-CoV-2 coronavirus a voice

Here in Europe he would be the exception, many politicians and celebrities who have the virus here have only very mild symptoms. For me, it sounds like the real number of asymptomatic carriers is much higher than we know. These asymptomatic carriers must be the driving force behind the exponential dissemination, while the severe cases spread terror. A fatal combination for a pandemic.

Maybe good time to take a Coursera course...

-J.

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