I dunno. Just back from a session with a national group who use "systems
of care" to think about delivery of mental health services for youth. Ethno/CAS/ABM logic--helped by Netlogo boids/segregation models and Drugtalk and a viz Steve lent me--changed the trajectory of plans and conversations as they got out from under linear causal hierarchical equilibrium modality. Stuff can't be all bad, even if the theorems aren't right. Mike >>> [hidden email] 03/11/05 8:57 AM >>> And ah, the usual grandiose claims for ABMs. I particularly liked the suggestion that ABMs were appropriate for situations where "...simulation of a system is part of a larger project whose desired outcome is a control scheme that more or less automatically regulates the behavior of the entire system." And that got me thinking: has there been any (and I do mean any) real-world examples of using an ABM in a closed-loop control system (i.e. one that doesn't just produce some estimates of a control paramter but actually enacts them)? Such control systems are all around us and - as far as I can make out - they are all examples of EBMs (even the analogue ones). Robert > -----Original Message----- > From: Stephen Guerin [mailto:[hidden email]] > Sent: Friday, March 11, 2005 12:21 AM > To: [hidden email]; The Friday Morning Applied > Complexity Coffee Group > Subject: RE: [FRIAM] Mathematics VS? Agent Based Modeling > > ah, the good ole' ABM v. EBM debate... > > Parunak has a good '98 paper from a practioners perspective: > "Agent-Based Modeling vs. Equation-Based Modeling" > http://www.pscs.umich.edu/education/CSCS-courses/cscs530/W02/T > > And then, by contrast, I like how Eric Bonabeau tries to > change the focus from ABM vs. EBM to stressing the > distinction of Macro vs. Micro approaches to modeling: > > "Agent-based modeling: Methods and techniques for simulating > human systems" > http://www.pnas.org/cgi/content/full/99/suppl_3/7280 > "ABM is a mindset more than a technology. The ABM mindset > consists of describing a system from the perspective of its > constituent units. A number of researchers think that the > alternative to ABM is traditional differential equation > modeling; this is wrong, as a set of differential equations, > each describing the dynamics of one of the system's > constituent units, is an agent-based model. A synonym of ABM > would be microscopic modeling, and an alternative would be > macroscopic modeling." > > -Steve > > ___________________________________________________________________ > [hidden email] > www.Redfish.com > 624 Agua Fria Street, Santa Fe, NM 87501 > mobile: (505)577-5828 > office: Santa Fe, NM (505)995-0206 / London, UK +44 (0) 20 7993 4769 > > > > > > > > > > > ============================================================ > FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv > Meets Fridays 9AM @ Jane's Cafe > Lecture schedule, archives, unsubscribe, etc.: > http://www.friam.org > > > ============================================================ FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv Meets Fridays 9AM @ Jane's Cafe Lecture schedule, archives, unsubscribe, etc.: http://www.friam.org |
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