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Douglas Roberts-2

Larry, Curly, and Moe

Sheesh, it just keeps getting better! I think Google is qualified to run LANL.

http://things-linux.blogspot.com/2013/01/it-was-known-issue.html

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Joshua Thorp

Re: Larry, Curly, and Moe

"... I wonder if being incompetent violates Google's official corporate policy? "

Hah, good one. Made me laugh. Tough having people handle the job of a python script. We would never say the python script was incompetent. Google probably better go back to that method of customer support… As Steve (or Chaung Tzu?) would say you don't get mad at the empty boat.

--joshua

Being humble

If a man is crossing a river and an empty boat collides with his own skiff,
even though he be a bad-tempered man he will not become very angry.
But if he sees a man in the boat, he will shout at him to steer clear.
If the shout is not heard, he will shout again, and yet again, and begin cursing.
And all because there is somebody in the boat.
Yet if the boat were empty, he would not be shouting, and not angry.

If you can empty your own boat crossing the river of the world,
no one will oppose you, no one will seek to harm you....

Who can free himself from achievement, and from fame, descend and be lost amid the masses of men?
He will flow like Tao, unseen, he will go about like Life itself with no name and no home.
Simple is he, without distinction. To all appearances he is a fool.
His steps leave no trace. He has no power. He achieves nothing, has no reputation.

Since he judges no one, no one judges him.
Such is the perfect man:
His boat is empty.
(20:2, 4, pp. 168-171)

The man who has some respect for his person keeps his carcass out of sight, hides himself as perfectly as he can.
(23:2, pp. 187)

On Jan 14, 2013, at 9:42 AM, Douglas Roberts wrote:

Sheesh, it just keeps getting better! I think Google is qualified to run LANL.

http://things-linux.blogspot.com/2013/01/it-was-known-issue.html

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Douglas Roberts-2

Re: Larry, Curly, and Moe

Beautiful!

On Mon, Jan 14, 2013 at 11:36 AM, Joshua Thorp <[hidden email]> wrote:

"... I wonder if being incompetent violates Google's official corporate policy? "

Hah, good one. Made me laugh. Tough having people handle the job of a python script. We would never say the python script was incompetent. Google probably better go back to that method of customer support… As Steve (or Chaung Tzu?) would say you don't get mad at the empty boat.

--joshua

Being humble

If a man is crossing a river and an empty boat collides with his own skiff,
even though he be a bad-tempered man he will not become very angry.
But if he sees a man in the boat, he will shout at him to steer clear.
If the shout is not heard, he will shout again, and yet again, and begin cursing.
And all because there is somebody in the boat.
Yet if the boat were empty, he would not be shouting, and not angry.
If you can empty your own boat crossing the river of the world,
no one will oppose you, no one will seek to harm you....
Who can free himself from achievement, and from fame, descend and be lost amid the masses of men?
He will flow like Tao, unseen, he will go about like Life itself with no name and no home.
Simple is he, without distinction. To all appearances he is a fool.
His steps leave no trace. He has no power. He achieves nothing, has no reputation.
Since he judges no one, no one judges him.
Such is the perfect man:
His boat is empty.
(20:2, 4, pp. 168-171)
The man who has some respect for his person keeps his carcass out of sight, hides himself as perfectly as he can.
(23:2, pp. 187)

On Jan 14, 2013, at 9:42 AM, Douglas Roberts wrote:

Sheesh, it just keeps getting better! I think Google is qualified to run LANL.

http://things-linux.blogspot.com/2013/01/it-was-known-issue.html

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Marcus G. Daniels

Re: Larry, Curly, and Moe

> Joshua Thorp

We would never say the python script was incompetent.

Would you say IBM Watson/Deep Blue is incompetent at Jeopardy/Chess after it wipes the floor with the best human players in the world?

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Joshua Thorp

Re: Larry, Curly, and Moe

No you are right, I was mostly trying to take a dig at Google in the pile on. But an automated boat wouldn't be completely 'empty' and its failure to navigate would be grounds for anger (at those damned engineers). So my whole line of thought turns out to be not that deep.

Guess I was the one perpetuating an empty argument…. Don't get mad there wasn't anyone at home.

;)

--joshua

On Jan 14, 2013, at 12:08 PM, Marcus G. Daniels wrote:

> Joshua Thorp

We would never say the python script was incompetent.

Would you say IBM Watson/Deep Blue is incompetent at Jeopardy/Chess after it wipes the floor with the best human players in the world?

Marcus

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Marcus G. Daniels

Re: Larry, Curly, and Moe

On 1/14/13 1:16 PM, Joshua Thorp wrote:

But an automated boat wouldn't be completely 'empty' and its failure to navigate would be grounds for anger (at those damned engineers).

On 60 minutes last night was (another) piece on robotics. One point was that the U.S. could be competitive in manufacturing again by replacing high wage earners with robots (which end up being about $3 an hour according Rodney Brooks' company). They went on to say:

"To make that concrete, Apple, Amazon, Facebook and Google are now all public companies. Combined, they have something close to $1 trillion in market capitalization. Together, the four of them employ fewer than 150,000 people, and that's less than the number of new entrants into the American workforce every month and the number of employees that work for GE."

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Douglas Roberts-2

Re: Larry, Curly, and Moe

This country needs more automation, and less, er, breeding.

--Doug

On Mon, Jan 14, 2013 at 1:33 PM, Marcus G. Daniels <[hidden email]> wrote:

On 1/14/13 1:16 PM, Joshua Thorp wrote:

But an automated boat wouldn't be completely 'empty' and its failure to navigate would be grounds for anger (at those damned engineers).

On 60 minutes last night was (another) piece on robotics. One point was that the U.S. could be competitive in manufacturing again by replacing high wage earners with robots (which end up being about $3 an hour according Rodney Brooks' company). They went on to say:

"To make that concrete, Apple, Amazon, Facebook and Google are now all public companies. Combined, they have something close to $1 trillion in market capitalization. Together, the four of them employ fewer than 150,000 people, and that's less than the number of new entrants into the American workforce every month and the number of employees that work for GE."

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