Hi folks,
After testing the local market over the past several months, in combination with where my wife and I are in life, and knowing what it takes to be globally competitive-- I've made the decision not to build out Kyield in Santa Fe. The science here is reasonably well matched, but not the culture for this kind of business. Kyield is a holistic enterprise software and communications system that is designed to increase meritocracy in the workplace, reduce information overload, improve innovation, and allow the individual and org to manage the knowledge yield curve for their specific needs- patent-pending. Architecture can be functional/written on any major platform, although I have personally been a bit biased towards semantic web standards. Five thousand of the world's largest organizations have consumed everything we have made public, so we have a bit of interest..... Created a license faqs doc and am sharing with my entire network in case anyone is interested: http://www.kyield.com/images/Kyield_License_FAQs.pdf Mark Montgomery Santa Fe, NM Founder- Kyield http://www.kyield.com [hidden email] ============================================================ FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv Meets Fridays 9a-11:30 at cafe at St. John's College lectures, archives, unsubscribe, maps at http://www.friam.org |
Mark,
Two questions: What do you mean culture? And, why are you telling us: it feels like you are taking home your marbles. Nick Nicholas S. Thompson Emeritus Professor of Psychology and Ethology, Clark University ([hidden email]) http://home.earthlink.net/~nickthompson/naturaldesigns/ > [Original Message] > From: Mark Montgomery <[hidden email]> > To: The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group <[hidden email]> > Date: 6/3/2009 6:56:08 PM > Subject: [FRIAM] Kyield > > Hi folks, > > After testing the local market over the past several months, in combination > with where my wife and I are in life, and knowing what it takes to be > globally competitive-- I've made the decision not to build out Kyield in > Santa Fe. The science here is reasonably well matched, but not the culture > for this kind of business. > > Kyield is a holistic enterprise software and communications system that is > designed to increase meritocracy in the workplace, reduce information > overload, improve innovation, and allow the individual and org to manage the > knowledge yield curve for their specific needs- patent-pending. Architecture > can be functional/written on any major platform, although I have personally > been a bit biased towards semantic web standards. Five thousand of the > world's largest organizations have consumed everything we have made public, > so we have a bit of interest..... > > Created a license faqs doc and am sharing with my entire network in case > anyone is interested: > > http://www.kyield.com/images/Kyield_License_FAQs.pdf > > Mark Montgomery > Santa Fe, NM > Founder- Kyield > http://www.kyield.com > [hidden email] > > > > > ============================================================ > FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv > Meets Fridays 9a-11:30 at cafe at St. John's College > lectures, archives, unsubscribe, maps at http://www.friam.org ============================================================ FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv Meets Fridays 9a-11:30 at cafe at St. John's College lectures, archives, unsubscribe, maps at http://www.friam.org |
The culture is the most important aspect of converting science to
usefulness, and creating wealth, which is what our economy depends on- more than any other in fact (U.S.- SF is very dependent on wealth creation elsewhere). I've been an integral part of the best work in the world on the topic for over two decades- entrepreneurial culture, so it's foolhardy not to listen. Several dozen other states and countries have listened- not so much the U.S. Every dollar invested at LANL, SFI, etc. can be traced to that culture, albeit elsewhere in the U.S. primarily. The primary reason for sharing is for the benefit of the members. I am taking home my marbles- or rather not willing to invest in commercializing technology a market dominated by subsidies and theory where the business culture isn't competitive. So what I am saying in part is that the priorities in Santa Fe are misaligned to its needs in the fast changing world, or its strengths, but then so too is the country it sits in, so it's not unusual in that regard. More subsidies won't change the culture, but actually reinforces it. Beyond that, since this community is about software and complexity, which is at the core of Kyield, perhaps someone knows someone who is interested and qualified. I suspect that the license will go to a giant, but we'll give others a chance first. -MM ----- Original Message ----- From: "Nicholas Thompson" <[hidden email]> To: <[hidden email]> Sent: Wednesday, June 03, 2009 8:51 PM Subject: Re: [FRIAM] Kyield > Mark, > > Two questions: > > What do you mean culture? > > And, why are you telling us: it feels like you are taking home your > marbles. > > Nick > > Nicholas S. Thompson > Emeritus Professor of Psychology and Ethology, > Clark University ([hidden email]) > http://home.earthlink.net/~nickthompson/naturaldesigns/ > > > > >> [Original Message] >> From: Mark Montgomery <[hidden email]> >> To: The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group >> <[hidden email]> >> Date: 6/3/2009 6:56:08 PM >> Subject: [FRIAM] Kyield >> >> Hi folks, >> >> After testing the local market over the past several months, in > combination >> with where my wife and I are in life, and knowing what it takes to be >> globally competitive-- I've made the decision not to build out Kyield in >> Santa Fe. The science here is reasonably well matched, but not the > culture >> for this kind of business. >> >> Kyield is a holistic enterprise software and communications system that > is >> designed to increase meritocracy in the workplace, reduce information >> overload, improve innovation, and allow the individual and org to manage > the >> knowledge yield curve for their specific needs- patent-pending. > Architecture >> can be functional/written on any major platform, although I have > personally >> been a bit biased towards semantic web standards. Five thousand of the >> world's largest organizations have consumed everything we have made > public, >> so we have a bit of interest..... >> >> Created a license faqs doc and am sharing with my entire network in case >> anyone is interested: >> >> http://www.kyield.com/images/Kyield_License_FAQs.pdf >> >> Mark Montgomery >> Santa Fe, NM >> Founder- Kyield >> http://www.kyield.com >> [hidden email] >> >> >> >> >> ============================================================ >> FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv >> Meets Fridays 9a-11:30 at cafe at St. John's College >> lectures, archives, unsubscribe, maps at http://www.friam.org > > > > ============================================================ > FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv > Meets Fridays 9a-11:30 at cafe at St. John's College > lectures, archives, unsubscribe, maps at http://www.friam.org ============================================================ FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv Meets Fridays 9a-11:30 at cafe at St. John's College lectures, archives, unsubscribe, maps at http://www.friam.org |
Mark, your statements are provocative (that's a good thing) but I'd like a little more explicit detail. Where did Santa Fe go wrong for you? What's the possible solution(s)?
Pamela On Jun 4, 2009, at 4:01 AM, Mark Montgomery wrote:
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>> SF is very dependent on wealth creation elsewhere Now that you mention it, I'm starting to see the upside of SF. ;-) ============================================================ FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv Meets Fridays 9a-11:30 at cafe at St. John's College lectures, archives, unsubscribe, maps at http://www.friam.org |
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Mark,
Somewhere below I may cross the line between question-asking and arguing. I just want to say that up front, because I value honest questioning above all, and while I value arguments also, relative to good questions, they are a dime dozen. What it looked like is that -- perhaps-- you were hoping that someone would say you were wrong about Santa Fe culture. I SUSPECT you are wrong, but what you say about the City is eminently true of ME, and so I am the least plausible person in Town to contradict your accusation. But I do have questions about it. For instance, from what evidence do you come to the notion that the Santa Fe complexity community has a culture. I have found Santa Fe to be a remarkably segmented community ... a thousand cultures. I suppose you might argue that Friam-in-Santa-Fe has a culture, but Friam represents only that small part of the local technology/complexity community that sees a value in getting together to talk every Friday morning. So, it wouldn't be surprising that you found on this list a lot of people (like me, alas) who see the value in talk. But there is hardly a week that I don't run into somebody in Santa Fe that isn't a member of FRIAM, certainly doesn't attend its meetings very often, and STILL has thought hard about technology, innovation, and complexity. Some of these people seem to my cloistered eyes to be extremely hard bitten entrepreneur types. So, instead of giving up on Santa Fe (and the FRIAM list) I mug ht put your assertion as a question to the list. One thing that the people who like to talk about things are good for is making connections between people and their ideas. So, I might urge you to ask FRIAM... might ask on your behalf, in fact ... for references to people in town who are ready for the knock-down entrepreneurial siege that you are spoiling for. The answers probably ought to come back to you in private email, but that doesn't mean that asking the list isn't a smart strategy. All the best, Nick Nicholas S. Thompson Emeritus Professor of Psychology and Ethology, Clark University ([hidden email]) http://home.earthlink.net/~nickthompson/naturaldesigns/ > [Original Message] > From: Mark Montgomery <[hidden email]> > To: <[hidden email]>; The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group <[hidden email]> > Date: 6/4/2009 4:01:57 AM > Subject: Re: [FRIAM] Kyield > > The culture is the most important aspect of converting science to > usefulness, and creating wealth, which is what our economy depends on- more > than any other in fact (U.S.- SF is very dependent on wealth creation > elsewhere). I've been an integral part of the best work in the world on the > topic for over two decades- entrepreneurial culture, so it's foolhardy not > to listen. Several dozen other states and countries have listened- not so > much the U.S. Every dollar invested at LANL, SFI, etc. can be traced to that > culture, albeit elsewhere in the U.S. primarily. > > The primary reason for sharing is for the benefit of the members. I am > taking home my marbles- or rather not willing to invest in commercializing > technology a market dominated by subsidies and theory where the business > culture isn't competitive. So what I am saying in part is that the > priorities in Santa Fe are misaligned to its needs in the fast changing > world, or its strengths, but then so too is the country it sits in, so it's > not unusual in that regard. More subsidies won't change the culture, but > actually reinforces it. > > Beyond that, since this community is about software and complexity, which is > at the core of Kyield, perhaps someone knows someone who is interested and > qualified. I suspect that the license will go to a giant, but we'll give > others a chance first. > > -MM > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Nicholas Thompson" <[hidden email]> > To: <[hidden email]> > Sent: Wednesday, June 03, 2009 8:51 PM > Subject: Re: [FRIAM] Kyield > > > > Mark, > > > > Two questions: > > > > What do you mean culture? > > > > And, why are you telling us: it feels like you are taking home your > > marbles. > > > > Nick > > > > Nicholas S. Thompson > > Emeritus Professor of Psychology and Ethology, > > Clark University ([hidden email]) > > http://home.earthlink.net/~nickthompson/naturaldesigns/ > > > > > > > > > >> [Original Message] > >> From: Mark Montgomery <[hidden email]> > >> To: The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group > >> <[hidden email]> > >> Date: 6/3/2009 6:56:08 PM > >> Subject: [FRIAM] Kyield > >> > >> Hi folks, > >> > >> After testing the local market over the past several months, in > > combination > >> with where my wife and I are in life, and knowing what it takes to be > >> globally competitive-- I've made the decision not to build out Kyield > >> Santa Fe. The science here is reasonably well matched, but not the > > culture > >> for this kind of business. > >> > >> Kyield is a holistic enterprise software and communications system that > > is > >> designed to increase meritocracy in the workplace, reduce information > >> overload, improve innovation, and allow the individual and org to manage > > the > >> knowledge yield curve for their specific needs- patent-pending. > > Architecture > >> can be functional/written on any major platform, although I have > > personally > >> been a bit biased towards semantic web standards. Five thousand of the > >> world's largest organizations have consumed everything we have made > > public, > >> so we have a bit of interest..... > >> > >> Created a license faqs doc and am sharing with my entire network in > >> anyone is interested: > >> > >> http://www.kyield.com/images/Kyield_License_FAQs.pdf > >> > >> Mark Montgomery > >> Santa Fe, NM > >> Founder- Kyield > >> http://www.kyield.com > >> [hidden email] > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> ============================================================ > >> FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv > >> Meets Fridays 9a-11:30 at cafe at St. John's College > >> lectures, archives, unsubscribe, maps at http://www.friam.org > > > > > > > > ============================================================ > > FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv > > Meets Fridays 9a-11:30 at cafe at St. John's College > > lectures, archives, unsubscribe, maps at http://www.friam.org ============================================================ FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv Meets Fridays 9a-11:30 at cafe at St. John's College lectures, archives, unsubscribe, maps at http://www.friam.org |
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Mark,
Sorry to have misread your position. I urge others to read for themselves and get the message straight (go to FRIAM archives, or read down below). . My interest is only in maintaining the conversation. I know a lot of people in town who are eager to make a living doing complexity related technology and I hate to see such an opportunity leave town without those people getting a chance to speak up. all the best, Nick Nicholas S. Thompson Emeritus Professor of Psychology and Ethology, Clark University ([hidden email]) http://home.earthlink.net/~nickthompson/naturaldesigns/ > [Original Message] > From: Mark Montgomery <[hidden email]> > To: <[hidden email]>; <[hidden email]> > Date: 6/4/2009 1:47:25 PM > Subject: Re: [FRIAM] Kyield > > Nicholas, > > Feel free to post my response to Pamela. I received several after I > unsubscribed, which I did not do for any reason other than I don't see > value. > > This is simply not true: "knock-down entrepreneurial siege that you are > spoiling for". I'm not at all. You misinterpreted my communications, but > regardless- doesn't have anything to do with what it takes to succeed. Not > about what I want or not, but rather is simply a review of the facts. > > So I invite you to read closely my reply to Pamela. For those who are not > experts in this area, like all others- it takes time to learn. In this > sector most of it is experiential- academia is not the leading source at > all, but rather the laggard. > > Open invitation for anyone to contact me who might share interests or in > business that could lead to mutually beneficial relationships. Be warned > however that in tech commercialization, we do not live in a local world. > must compete globally or fails everyone involved. My final tough love to AZ > when leaving was that it's best not to attempt to compete, and use your > resources more wisely, than to make it appear that you are attempting to > compete. > > The bar is very high indeed. > > Regards, -MM > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Nicholas Thompson" <[hidden email]> > To: "Mark Montgomery" <[hidden email]>; <[hidden email]> > Sent: Thursday, June 04, 2009 1:04 PM > Subject: Re: [FRIAM] Kyield > > > > Mark, > > > > Somewhere below I may cross the line between question-asking and > > I just want to say that up front, because I value honest questioning above > > all, and while I value arguments also, relative to good questions, they > > are > > a dime dozen. > > > > What it looked like is that -- perhaps-- you were hoping that someone > > would > > say you were wrong about Santa Fe culture. I SUSPECT you are wrong, but > > what you say about the City is eminently true of ME, and so I am the least > > plausible person in Town to contradict your accusation. > > > > But I do have questions about it. For instance, from what evidence do you > > come to the notion that the Santa Fe complexity community has a culture. > > I > > have found Santa Fe to be a remarkably segmented community ... a thousand > > cultures. I suppose you might argue that Friam-in-Santa-Fe has a > > culture, but Friam represents only that small part of the local > > technology/complexity community that sees a value in getting together to > > talk every Friday morning. So, it wouldn't be surprising that you found > > on > > this list a lot of people (like me, alas) who see the value in talk. But > > there is hardly a week that I don't run into somebody in Santa Fe that > > isn't a member of FRIAM, certainly doesn't attend its meetings very often, > > and STILL has thought hard about technology, innovation, and complexity. > > Some of these people seem to my cloistered eyes to be extremely hard > > bitten > > entrepreneur types. > > > > So, instead of giving up on Santa Fe (and the FRIAM list) I mug ht put > > your > > assertion as a question to the list. One thing that the people who like > > to > > talk about things are good for is making connections between people and > > their ideas. So, I might urge you to ask FRIAM... might ask on your > > behalf, in fact ... for references to people in town who are ready for the > > knock-down entrepreneurial siege that you are spoiling for. The answers > > probably ought to come back to you in private email, but that doesn't mean > > that asking the list isn't a smart strategy. > > > > All the best, > > > > Nick > > > > Nicholas S. Thompson > > Emeritus Professor of Psychology and Ethology, > > Clark University ([hidden email]) > > http://home.earthlink.net/~nickthompson/naturaldesigns/ > > > > > > > > > >> [Original Message] > >> From: Mark Montgomery <[hidden email]> > >> To: <[hidden email]>; The Friday Morning Applied Complexity > > Coffee Group <[hidden email]> > >> Date: 6/4/2009 4:01:57 AM > >> Subject: Re: [FRIAM] Kyield > >> > >> The culture is the most important aspect of converting science to > >> usefulness, and creating wealth, which is what our economy depends on- > > more > >> than any other in fact (U.S.- SF is very dependent on wealth creation > >> elsewhere). I've been an integral part of the best work in the world on > > the > >> topic for over two decades- entrepreneurial culture, so it's foolhardy > > not > >> to listen. Several dozen other states and countries have listened- not > >> much the U.S. Every dollar invested at LANL, SFI, etc. can be traced to > > that > >> culture, albeit elsewhere in the U.S. primarily. > >> > >> The primary reason for sharing is for the benefit of the members. I am > >> taking home my marbles- or rather not willing to invest in > > commercializing > >> technology a market dominated by subsidies and theory where the business > >> culture isn't competitive. So what I am saying in part is that the > >> priorities in Santa Fe are misaligned to its needs in the fast changing > >> world, or its strengths, but then so too is the country it sits in, so > > it's > >> not unusual in that regard. More subsidies won't change the culture, but > >> actually reinforces it. > >> > >> Beyond that, since this community is about software and complexity, which > > is > >> at the core of Kyield, perhaps someone knows someone who is interested > > and > >> qualified. I suspect that the license will go to a giant, but we'll give > >> others a chance first. > >> > >> -MM > >> > >> > >> > >> ----- Original Message ----- > >> From: "Nicholas Thompson" <[hidden email]> > >> To: <[hidden email]> > >> Sent: Wednesday, June 03, 2009 8:51 PM > >> Subject: Re: [FRIAM] Kyield > >> > >> > >> > Mark, > >> > > >> > Two questions: > >> > > >> > What do you mean culture? > >> > > >> > And, why are you telling us: it feels like you are taking home your > >> > marbles. > >> > > >> > Nick > >> > > >> > Nicholas S. Thompson > >> > Emeritus Professor of Psychology and Ethology, > >> > Clark University ([hidden email]) > >> > http://home.earthlink.net/~nickthompson/naturaldesigns/ > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> >> [Original Message] > >> >> From: Mark Montgomery <[hidden email]> > >> >> To: The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group > >> >> <[hidden email]> > >> >> Date: 6/3/2009 6:56:08 PM > >> >> Subject: [FRIAM] Kyield > >> >> > >> >> Hi folks, > >> >> > >> >> After testing the local market over the past several months, in > >> > combination > >> >> with where my wife and I are in life, and knowing what it takes to > >> >> globally competitive-- I've made the decision not to build out Kyield > > in > >> >> Santa Fe. The science here is reasonably well matched, but not the > >> > culture > >> >> for this kind of business. > >> >> > >> >> Kyield is a holistic enterprise software and communications system > >> >> that > >> > is > >> >> designed to increase meritocracy in the workplace, reduce information > >> >> overload, improve innovation, and allow the individual and org to > > manage > >> > the > >> >> knowledge yield curve for their specific needs- patent-pending. > >> > Architecture > >> >> can be functional/written on any major platform, although I have > >> > personally > >> >> been a bit biased towards semantic web standards. Five thousand of the > >> >> world's largest organizations have consumed everything we have made > >> > public, > >> >> so we have a bit of interest..... > >> >> > >> >> Created a license faqs doc and am sharing with my entire network in > > case > >> >> anyone is interested: > >> >> > >> >> http://www.kyield.com/images/Kyield_License_FAQs.pdf > >> >> > >> >> Mark Montgomery > >> >> Santa Fe, NM > >> >> Founder- Kyield > >> >> http://www.kyield.com > >> >> [hidden email] > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> ============================================================ > >> >> FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv > >> >> Meets Fridays 9a-11:30 at cafe at St. John's College > >> >> lectures, archives, unsubscribe, maps at http://www.friam.org > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > ============================================================ > >> > FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv > >> > Meets Fridays 9a-11:30 at cafe at St. John's College > >> > lectures, archives, unsubscribe, maps at http://www.friam.org > > > > ============================================================ FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv Meets Fridays 9a-11:30 at cafe at St. John's College lectures, archives, unsubscribe, maps at http://www.friam.org |
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