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Gillian Densmore

Grumble- NM's crappy internet

Trying to back up computer.

Wich is frankly painful to do over DSL. And that is exactly where this is coming from-

Where is my CHEAP and FAST internet?

Why do I have to pick between DSL (can afford)

or Cox the self named ISP (can't afford)?

Where is the fiber to the home?

I am having a hard time believing that here it's well into 2016, and the choices for internet in NM are frankly paltery and arguable pitiful.

Am I the only one looking around NM and feel it's broken, and tired of people pointing fingers rather than solving issues, and making it a more fun place to be in.

It has numerous wonderfoul charms, it's a large village feel.

One of those charms, however, is NOT the frankly snail speed cheep internet that's being offered all over the place.

I do not want the mantle of rabble rouser.

I do however feel SOMEONE needs to take on the task of re-asking: where is the research labs? Where are the enormous school campus? The places that helps people lead a fun, rich and fulling life?

Where is the science village?

Grumble grumble rant rant rant grumble grumble

Other wise I heope everyones day rocks!

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Nick Thompson

Re: Grumble- NM's crappy internet

Gill,

I believe it’s the case that you can go down to the Railyard and have all the speed you want. If you are doing a large scale backup recovery from the web, it might be worth the trip.

Nick

Nicholas S. Thompson

Emeritus Professor of Psychology and Biology

Clark University

http://home.earthlink.net/~nickthompson/naturaldesigns/

From: Friam [mailto:[hidden email]] On Behalf Of Gillian Densmore
Sent: Saturday, February 20, 2016 11:12 AM
To: The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group <[hidden email]>
Subject: [FRIAM] Grumble- NM's crappy internet

Trying to back up computer.

Wich is frankly painful to do over DSL. And that is exactly where this is coming from-

Where is my CHEAP and FAST internet?

Why do I have to pick between DSL (can afford)

or Cox the self named ISP (can't afford)?

Where is the fiber to the home?

I am having a hard time believing that here it's well into 2016, and the choices for internet in NM are frankly paltery and arguable pitiful.

Am I the only one looking around NM and feel it's broken, and tired of people pointing fingers rather than solving issues, and making it a more fun place to be in.

It has numerous wonderfoul charms, it's a large village feel.

One of those charms, however, is NOT the frankly snail speed cheep internet that's being offered all over the place.

I do not want the mantle of rabble rouser.

I do however feel SOMEONE needs to take on the task of re-asking: where is the research labs? Where are the enormous school campus? The places that helps people lead a fun, rich and fulling life?

Where is the science village?

Grumble grumble rant rant rant grumble grumble

Other wise I heope everyones day rocks!

Gary Schiltz-4

Re: Grumble- NM's crappy internet

Or 50 bucks for a 2-TB USB hard drive.

On Sat, Feb 20, 2016 at 8:45 PM, Nick Thompson <[hidden email]> wrote:

Gill,

I believe it’s the case that you can go down to the Railyard and have all the speed you want. If you are doing a large scale backup recovery from the web, it might be worth the trip.

Nick

Nicholas S. Thompson
Emeritus Professor of Psychology and Biology
Clark University
http://home.earthlink.net/~nickthompson/naturaldesigns/

From: Friam [mailto:[hidden email]] On Behalf Of Gillian Densmore
Sent: Saturday, February 20, 2016 11:12 AM
To: The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group <[hidden email]>
Subject: [FRIAM] Grumble- NM's crappy internet

Trying to back up computer.
Wich is frankly painful to do over DSL. And that is exactly where this is coming from-

Where is my CHEAP and FAST internet?
Why do I have to pick between DSL (can afford)
or Cox the self named ISP (can't afford)?
Where is the fiber to the home?

I am having a hard time believing that here it's well into 2016, and the choices for internet in NM are frankly paltery and arguable pitiful.

Am I the only one looking around NM and feel it's broken, and tired of people pointing fingers rather than solving issues, and making it a more fun place to be in.
It has numerous wonderfoul charms, it's a large village feel.

One of those charms, however, is NOT the frankly snail speed cheep internet that's being offered all over the place.

I do not want the mantle of rabble rouser.

I do however feel SOMEONE needs to take on the task of re-asking: where is the research labs? Where are the enormous school campus? The places that helps people lead a fun, rich and fulling life?
Where is the science village?

Grumble grumble rant rant rant grumble grumble

Other wise I heope everyones day rocks!

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Edward Angel

[ SPAM ] Re: Grumble- NM's crappy internet

In reply to this post by Nick Thompson

I now see the brilliance of the City putting $1M to get a connection in the Railyard. As we’re all lined up with our computers waiting a turn to back them up, we’ll want to have coffee, dinner, maybe even shop. We’ll be resurrecting the Railyard. It would be sort of like old paintings of people in a village gathered around the well.

Seriously Gil, there are and have been many people trying to improve the sad state of the internet in NM. I suggest you follow what’s going on at Richard Lowenberg’s first mile site:

1st-mile-nm mailing list
[hidden email]
http://www2.dcn.org/mailman/listinfo/1st-mile-nm

_______________________

Ed Angel

Founding Director, Art, Research, Technology and Science Laboratory (ARTS Lab)
Professor Emeritus of Computer Science, University of New Mexico

1017 Sierra Pinon

Santa Fe, NM 87501
505-984-0136 (home) [hidden email]

505-453-4944 (cell) http://www.cs.unm.edu/~angel

On Feb 20, 2016, at 6:45 PM, Nick Thompson <[hidden email]> wrote:

Gill,

I believe it’s the case that you can go down to the Railyard and have all the speed you want. If you are doing a large scale backup recovery from the web, it might be worth the trip.

Nick

Nicholas S. Thompson
Emeritus Professor of Psychology and Biology
Clark University
http://home.earthlink.net/~nickthompson/naturaldesigns/

From: Friam [[hidden email]] On Behalf Of Gillian Densmore
Sent: Saturday, February 20, 2016 11:12 AM
To: The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group <[hidden email]>
Subject: [FRIAM] Grumble- NM's crappy internet

Trying to back up computer.
Wich is frankly painful to do over DSL. And that is exactly where this is coming from-

Where is my CHEAP and FAST internet?
Why do I have to pick between DSL (can afford)
or Cox the self named ISP (can't afford)?
Where is the fiber to the home?

I am having a hard time believing that here it's well into 2016, and the choices for internet in NM are frankly paltery and arguable pitiful.

Am I the only one looking around NM and feel it's broken, and tired of people pointing fingers rather than solving issues, and making it a more fun place to be in.
It has numerous wonderfoul charms, it's a large village feel.

One of those charms, however, is NOT the frankly snail speed cheep internet that's being offered all over the place.

I do not want the mantle of rabble rouser.

I do however feel SOMEONE needs to take on the task of re-asking: where is the research labs? Where are the enormous school campus? The places that helps people lead a fun, rich and fulling life?
Where is the science village?

Grumble grumble rant rant rant grumble grumble

Other wise I heope everyones day rocks!
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Gillian Densmore

Re: Grumble- NM's crappy internet

In reply to this post by Gary Schiltz-4

@Garry Yeah. believe it or not I do have on my agenda to get a reliable external drive for backing up. Wich I think would be a I good idea anyway.

Personally I'd like to have both a rocking place in the cloud for back up as well as external drive.

I don't want my grumbles at being perplexed that Santa Fe doesn't seem to have many uplifting sciency kind of places to get lost in the noise.

I am also perplexed that cheap highspeed internet in NM doesn't seem to exist.

On Sat, Feb 20, 2016 at 7:44 PM, Gary Schiltz <[hidden email]> wrote:

Or 50 bucks for a 2-TB USB hard drive.

On Sat, Feb 20, 2016 at 8:45 PM, Nick Thompson <[hidden email]> wrote:
Gill,

I believe it’s the case that you can go down to the Railyard and have all the speed you want. If you are doing a large scale backup recovery from the web, it might be worth the trip.

Nick

Nicholas S. Thompson
Emeritus Professor of Psychology and Biology
Clark University
http://home.earthlink.net/~nickthompson/naturaldesigns/

From: Friam [mailto:[hidden email]] On Behalf Of Gillian Densmore
Sent: Saturday, February 20, 2016 11:12 AM
To: The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group <[hidden email]>
Subject: [FRIAM] Grumble- NM's crappy internet

Trying to back up computer.
Wich is frankly painful to do over DSL. And that is exactly where this is coming from-

Where is my CHEAP and FAST internet?
Why do I have to pick between DSL (can afford)
or Cox the self named ISP (can't afford)?
Where is the fiber to the home?

I am having a hard time believing that here it's well into 2016, and the choices for internet in NM are frankly paltery and arguable pitiful.

Am I the only one looking around NM and feel it's broken, and tired of people pointing fingers rather than solving issues, and making it a more fun place to be in.
It has numerous wonderfoul charms, it's a large village feel.

One of those charms, however, is NOT the frankly snail speed cheep internet that's being offered all over the place.

I do not want the mantle of rabble rouser.

I do however feel SOMEONE needs to take on the task of re-asking: where is the research labs? Where are the enormous school campus? The places that helps people lead a fun, rich and fulling life?
Where is the science village?

Grumble grumble rant rant rant grumble grumble

Other wise I heope everyones day rocks!

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Meets Fridays 9a-11:30 at cafe at St. John's College
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Gillian Densmore

Re: [ SPAM ] Re: Grumble- NM's crappy internet

In reply to this post by Edward Angel

@ED

LOL yeah I see that brilliance to. :P

Richard is brilliant, and I shall follow his efforts better.

On Sun, Feb 21, 2016 at 7:12 AM, Edward Angel <[hidden email]> wrote:

I now see the brilliance of the City putting $1M to get a connection in the Railyard. As we’re all lined up with our computers waiting a turn to back them up, we’ll want to have coffee, dinner, maybe even shop. We’ll be resurrecting the Railyard. It would be sort of like old paintings of people in a village gathered around the well.

Seriously Gil, there are and have been many people trying to improve the sad state of the internet in NM. I suggest you follow what’s going on at Richard Lowenberg’s first mile site:

1st-mile-nm mailing list
[hidden email]
http://www2.dcn.org/mailman/listinfo/1st-mile-nm

Ed

_______________________

Ed Angel

Founding Director, Art, Research, Technology and Science Laboratory (ARTS Lab)
Professor Emeritus of Computer Science, University of New Mexico

1017 Sierra Pinon
Santa Fe, NM 87501
<a href="tel:505-984-0136" value="+15059840136" target="_blank">505-984-0136 (home) [hidden email]
<a href="tel:505-453-4944" value="+15054534944" target="_blank">505-453-4944 (cell) http://www.cs.unm.edu/~angel

On Feb 20, 2016, at 6:45 PM, Nick Thompson <[hidden email]> wrote:

Gill,

I believe it’s the case that you can go down to the Railyard and have all the speed you want. If you are doing a large scale backup recovery from the web, it might be worth the trip.

Nick

Nicholas S. Thompson
Emeritus Professor of Psychology and Biology
Clark University
http://home.earthlink.net/~nickthompson/naturaldesigns/

From: Friam [[hidden email]] On Behalf Of Gillian Densmore
Sent: Saturday, February 20, 2016 11:12 AM
To: The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group <[hidden email]>
Subject: [FRIAM] Grumble- NM's crappy internet

Trying to back up computer.
Wich is frankly painful to do over DSL. And that is exactly where this is coming from-

Where is my CHEAP and FAST internet?
Why do I have to pick between DSL (can afford)
or Cox the self named ISP (can't afford)?
Where is the fiber to the home?

I am having a hard time believing that here it's well into 2016, and the choices for internet in NM are frankly paltery and arguable pitiful.

Am I the only one looking around NM and feel it's broken, and tired of people pointing fingers rather than solving issues, and making it a more fun place to be in.
It has numerous wonderfoul charms, it's a large village feel.

One of those charms, however, is NOT the frankly snail speed cheep internet that's being offered all over the place.

I do not want the mantle of rabble rouser.

I do however feel SOMEONE needs to take on the task of re-asking: where is the research labs? Where are the enormous school campus? The places that helps people lead a fun, rich and fulling life?
Where is the science village?

Grumble grumble rant rant rant grumble grumble

Other wise I heope everyones day rocks!
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