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Owen Densmore

Google's Graveyard

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Love this tweet:

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Arlo Barnes

Re: Google's Graveyard

The desktop thingy was OK, and Wave looked promising, but really the only one I cared about was Sidewiki.

-Arlo James Barnes

glen ropella

Re: Google's Graveyard

In reply to this post by Owen Densmore

On 02/04/2015 04:18 PM, Owen Densmore wrote:
> Love this tweet:

I'm really glad Google is so performance based in its product strategy. It's a far cry from wasteful and obsolete old school practices that pour lots of resources into a narrow channel, artificially maintaining zombie products. It seems akin to evolution, actually. "The master has failed more times than the beginner has even tried."

It also seems to reflect a new sense of the C2B relationship. The rejection of brand loyalty was a hallmark of GenX. Then the millenials made it fundamental to their ethos, even defining character by it. (Anyone wearing, say, a Coca-Cola branded product must be a tool... unless the irony is obvious... like a tattooed stick-boy wearing a CAT cap.) These days, anyone who openly or obviously _relies_ on a corporate product is (culturally, at least) an anachronism. This is the heart of the reactionary criticism of, say, Occupy protesters relying so much on Apple products.

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⇒⇐ glen e. p. ropella
I spend 'em as fast as they come

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Nick Thompson

Re: Google's Graveyard

Yep! Eat my Wheaties every morning. [sign me]

Of The Silent Generation

Nicholas S. Thompson
Emeritus Professor of Psychology and Biology
Clark University
http://home.earthlink.net/~nickthompson/naturaldesigns/

-----Original Message-----
From: Friam [mailto:[hidden email]] On Behalf Of glen
Sent: Thursday, February 05, 2015 9:21 AM
To: The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group
Subject: Re: [FRIAM] Google's Graveyard

On 02/04/2015 04:18 PM, Owen Densmore wrote:
> Love this tweet:

I'm really glad Google is so performance based in its product strategy. It's a far cry from wasteful and obsolete old school practices that pour lots of resources into a narrow channel, artificially maintaining zombie products. It seems akin to evolution, actually. "The master has failed more times than the beginner has even tried."

It also seems to reflect a new sense of the C2B relationship. The rejection of brand loyalty was a hallmark of GenX. Then the millenials made it fundamental to their ethos, even defining character by it. (Anyone wearing, say, a Coca-Cola branded product must be a tool... unless the irony is obvious... like a tattooed stick-boy wearing a CAT cap.) These days, anyone who openly or obviously _relies_ on a corporate product is (culturally, at least) an anachronism. This is the heart of the reactionary criticism of, say, Occupy protesters relying so much on Apple products.

--
⇒⇐ glen e. p. ropella
I spend 'em as fast as they come

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Owen Densmore

Re: Google's Graveyard

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It's only fair to say the google ecology is converging to some degree and is pretty useful. I did find the fail of their RSS reader problematic.

OTOH: I find myself unwilling to rely on several of their products, preferring others that I think will last. Dropbox, for example for sync'ed storage rather than Google Drive. I guess I find Google schizophrenic.

Apple has a similar issue, but based on failures of the past rather than simply dropping services. My guess iCloud will work, after the failures of their prior attempts. But I won't rely on it.

-- Owen

On Thu, Feb 5, 2015 at 10:17 AM, Nick Thompson <[hidden email]> wrote:

Yep! Eat my Wheaties every morning. [sign me]

Of The Silent Generation

Nicholas S. Thompson
Emeritus Professor of Psychology and Biology
Clark University
http://home.earthlink.net/~nickthompson/naturaldesigns/

-----Original Message-----
From: Friam [mailto:[hidden email]] On Behalf Of glen
Sent: Thursday, February 05, 2015 9:21 AM
To: The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group
Subject: Re: [FRIAM] Google's Graveyard

On 02/04/2015 04:18 PM, Owen Densmore wrote:
> Love this tweet:

I'm really glad Google is so performance based in its product strategy. It's a far cry from wasteful and obsolete old school practices that pour lots of resources into a narrow channel, artificially maintaining zombie products. It seems akin to evolution, actually. "The master has failed more times than the beginner has even tried."

It also seems to reflect a new sense of the C2B relationship. The rejection of brand loyalty was a hallmark of GenX. Then the millenials made it fundamental to their ethos, even defining character by it. (Anyone wearing, say, a Coca-Cola branded product must be a tool... unless the irony is obvious... like a tattooed stick-boy wearing a CAT cap.) These days, anyone who openly or obviously _relies_ on a corporate product is (culturally, at least) an anachronism. This is the heart of the reactionary criticism of, say, Occupy protesters relying so much on Apple products.

--
⇒⇐ glen e. p. ropella
I spend 'em as fast as they come

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Sarbajit Roy (testing)

Re: Google's Graveyard

Google's products are highly intrusive. Whenever I use them I feel as
though I'm a lab rat in somebody's experiment.
http://www.google.com/policies/privacy/

On 2/5/15, Owen Densmore <[hidden email]> wrote:

> It's only fair to say the google ecology is converging to some degree and
> is pretty useful. I did find the fail of their RSS reader problematic.
>
> OTOH: I find myself unwilling to rely on several of their products,
> preferring others that I think will last. Dropbox, for example for sync'ed
> storage rather than Google Drive. I guess I find Google schizophrenic.
>
> Apple has a similar issue, but based on failures of the past rather than
> simply dropping services. My guess iCloud will work, after the failures of
> their prior attempts. But I won't rely on it.
>
> -- Owen
>