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jon zingale

Gentleman's Club

Glen astutely begins:

"We talk a lot about filosofy, culture, and politics on this list. And we quote a lot of old white guys. Sporadically one of us will lament..."

From a wonderfully humorous wikipedia article on The Gentleman's Club:

"An increasing number of clubs were characterised by their members' interest in politics, literature, sport, art, automobiles, travel, particular countries, or some other pursuit. In other cases, the connection between the members was membership of the same branch of the armed forces, or the same school or university. Thus the growth of clubs provides an indicator as to what was considered a respectable part of the "Establishment" at the time.

By the late 19th century, any man with a credible claim to the status of "gentleman" was eventually able to find a club willing to admit him, unless his character was objectionable in some way or he was "unclubbable" (a word first used by Samuel Johnson).^[2] This newly-expanded category of English society came to include professionals who had to earn their income, such as doctors and lawyers."

Is it possible we are a gentleman's club? If so, I suspect I am unclubbable.

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Frank Wimberly-2

Re: Gentleman's Club

You are eminently clubbable wrt Friam, Jon.

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On Thu, May 14, 2020, 6:22 PM Jon Zingale <[hidden email]> wrote:

Glen astutely begins:
"We talk a lot about filosofy, culture, and politics on this list. And we quote a lot of old white guys. Sporadically one of us will lament..."

From a wonderfully humorous wikipedia article on The Gentleman's Club:
"An increasing number of clubs were characterised by their members' interest in politics, literature, sport, art, automobiles, travel, particular countries, or some other pursuit. In other cases, the connection between the members was membership of the same branch of the armed forces, or the same school or university. Thus the growth of clubs provides an indicator as to what was considered a respectable part of the "Establishment" at the time.
By the late 19th century, any man with a credible claim to the status of "gentleman" was eventually able to find a club willing to admit him, unless his character was objectionable in some way or he was "unclubbable" (a word first used by Samuel Johnson).^[2] This newly-expanded category of English society came to include professionals who had to earn their income, such as doctors and lawyers."
Is it possible we are a gentleman's club? If so, I suspect I am unclubbable.
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Prof David West

Re: Gentleman's Club

Should FRIAM aspire to "club" or to "salon?" I would hope the latter.

davew

On Thu, May 14, 2020, at 6:27 PM, Frank Wimberly wrote:

You are eminently clubbable wrt Friam, Jon.

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Frank C. Wimberly
140 Calle Ojo Feliz,
Santa Fe, NM 87505

505 670-9918
Santa Fe, NM

On Thu, May 14, 2020, 6:22 PM Jon Zingale <[hidden email]> wrote:
Glen astutely begins:
"We talk a lot about filosofy, culture, and politics on this list. And we quote a lot of old white guys. Sporadically one of us will lament..."

From a wonderfully humorous wikipedia article on The Gentleman's Club:
"An increasing number of clubs were characterised by their members' interest in politics, literature, sport, art, automobiles, travel, particular countries, or some other pursuit. In other cases, the connection between the members was membership of the same branch of the armed forces, or the same school or university. Thus the growth of clubs provides an indicator as to what was considered a respectable part of the "Establishment" at the time.
By the late 19th century, any man with a credible claim to the status of "gentleman" was eventually able to find a club willing to admit him, unless his character was objectionable in some way or he was "unclubbable" (a word first used by Samuel Johnson).^[2] This newly-expanded category of English society came to include professionals who had to earn their income, such as doctors and lawyers."
Is it possible we are a gentleman's club? If so, I suspect I am unclubbable.
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jon zingale

Re: Gentleman's Club

In reply to this post by jon zingale

Frank,

Thank you. To the extent that I have room to extend the same,

you too are eminently clubbable.

Jon

Marcus G. Daniels

Re: Gentleman's Club

In reply to this post by Prof David West

I get the feeling there’s a pitch coming about buying into a timeshare.

From: Friam <[hidden email]> on behalf of Prof David West <[hidden email]>
Reply-To: The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group <[hidden email]>
Date: Thursday, May 14, 2020 at 5:40 PM
To: "[hidden email]" <[hidden email]>
Subject: Re: [FRIAM] Gentleman's Club

Should FRIAM aspire to "club" or to "salon?" I would hope the latter.

davew

On Thu, May 14, 2020, at 6:27 PM, Frank Wimberly wrote:

You are eminently clubbable wrt Friam, Jon.

---

Frank C. Wimberly

140 Calle Ojo Feliz,

Santa Fe, NM 87505

505 670-9918

Santa Fe, NM

On Thu, May 14, 2020, 6:22 PM Jon Zingale <[hidden email]> wrote:

Glen astutely begins:

"We talk a lot about filosofy, culture, and politics on this list. And we quote a lot of old white guys. Sporadically one of us will lament..."

From a wonderfully humorous wikipedia article on The Gentleman's Club:

"An increasing number of clubs were characterised by their members' interest in politics, literature, sport, art, automobiles, travel, particular countries, or some other pursuit. In other cases, the connection between the members was membership of the same branch of the armed forces, or the same school or university. Thus the growth of clubs provides an indicator as to what was considered a respectable part of the "Establishment" at the time.

By the late 19th century, any man with a credible claim to the status of "gentleman" was eventually able to find a club willing to admit him, unless his character was objectionable in some way or he was "unclubbable" (a word first used by Samuel Johnson).^[2] This newly-expanded category of English society came to include professionals who had to earn their income, such as doctors and lawyers."

Is it possible we are a gentleman's club? If so, I suspect I am unclubbable.

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Bob Ballance

Re: Gentleman's Club

I’m reminded of a saying from Groucho Marx:

"I refuse to join any club that would have me as a member.”

That advice has saved me a boodle on membership dues.

. . . Bob

On May 14, 2020, at 6:52 PM, Marcus Daniels <[hidden email]> wrote:

I get the feeling there’s a pitch coming about buying into a timeshare.

From: Friam <[hidden email]> on behalf of Prof David West <[hidden email]>
Reply-To: The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group <[hidden email]>
Date: Thursday, May 14, 2020 at 5:40 PM
To: "[hidden email]" <[hidden email]>
Subject: Re: [FRIAM] Gentleman's Club

Should FRIAM aspire to "club" or to "salon?" I would hope the latter.

davew

On Thu, May 14, 2020, at 6:27 PM, Frank Wimberly wrote:
You are eminently clubbable wrt Friam, Jon.

---
Frank C. Wimberly
140 Calle Ojo Feliz,
Santa Fe, NM 87505

505 670-9918
Santa Fe, NM

On Thu, May 14, 2020, 6:22 PM Jon Zingale <[hidden email]> wrote:
Glen astutely begins:
"We talk a lot about filosofy, culture, and politics on this list. And we quote a lot of old white guys. Sporadically one of us will lament..."

From a wonderfully humorous wikipedia article on The Gentleman's Club:
"An increasing number of clubs were characterised by their members' interest in politics, literature, sport, art, automobiles, travel, particular countries, or some other pursuit. In other cases, the connection between the members was membership of the same branch of the armed forces, or the same school or university. Thus the growth of clubs provides an indicator as to what was considered a respectable part of the "Establishment" at the time.
By the late 19th century, any man with a credible claim to the status of "gentleman" was eventually able to find a club willing to admit him, unless his character was objectionable in some way or he was "unclubbable" (a word first used by Samuel Johnson).^[2] This newly-expanded category of English society came to include professionals who had to earn their income, such as doctors and lawyers."
Is it possible we are a gentleman's club? If so, I suspect I am unclubbable.
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gepr

Re: Gentleman's Club

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"I refuse to join any club that would have me as a member." 8^)
--
glen

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uǝʃƃ ⊥ glen

Steve Smith

Re: Gentleman's Club

In reply to this post by Frank Wimberly-2

"clubbable" as in "baby seal"?

Frank wrote:
> You are eminently clubbable wrt Friam, Jon.
>

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thompnickson2

Re: Gentleman's Club

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No. You don’t get off that easy, Jon. It’s a club of unclubbables. Perhaps we should change the name.

TheUnclubbables.com. It’s available for 0.99.

Nick

Nicholas Thompson

Emeritus Professor of Ethology and Psychology

Clark University

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https://wordpress.clarku.edu/nthompson/

From: Friam <[hidden email]> On Behalf Of Jon Zingale
Sent: Thursday, May 14, 2020 6:22 PM
To: [hidden email]
Subject: [FRIAM] Gentleman's Club

Glen astutely begins:

"We talk a lot about filosofy, culture, and politics on this list. And we quote a lot of old white guys. Sporadically one of us will lament..."

From a wonderfully humorous wikipedia article on The Gentleman's Club:

Is it possible we are a gentleman's club? If so, I suspect I am unclubbable.

Jochen Fromm-5

Re: Gentleman's Club

In reply to this post by jon zingale

Dear Sir or Maddam,

is the Gentleman's Club meeting today online?

Cheers,

Jochen

-------- Original message --------

From: Jon Zingale <[hidden email]>

Date: 5/15/20 02:23 (GMT+01:00)

To: [hidden email]

Subject: [FRIAM] Gentleman's Club

Glen astutely begins:

"We talk a lot about filosofy, culture, and politics on this list. And we quote a lot of old white guys. Sporadically one of us will lament..."

From a wonderfully humorous wikipedia article on The Gentleman's Club:

Is it possible we are a gentleman's club? If so, I suspect I am unclubbable.

Frank Wimberly-2

Re: Gentleman's Club

In reply to this post by jon zingale

Ja gewiss.

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Frank C. Wimberly
140 Calle Ojo Feliz,
Santa Fe, NM 87505

505 670-9918
Santa Fe, NM

On Thu, May 14, 2020, 11:33 PM Jochen Fromm <[hidden email]> wrote:

Dear Sir or Maddam,

is the Gentleman's Club meeting today online?

Cheers,
Jochen

-------- Original message --------
From: Jon Zingale <[hidden email]>
Date: 5/15/20 02:23 (GMT+01:00)
To: [hidden email]
Subject: [FRIAM] Gentleman's Club

Glen astutely begins:
"We talk a lot about filosofy, culture, and politics on this list. And we quote a lot of old white guys. Sporadically one of us will lament..."

From a wonderfully humorous wikipedia article on The Gentleman's Club:
"An increasing number of clubs were characterised by their members' interest in politics, literature, sport, art, automobiles, travel, particular countries, or some other pursuit. In other cases, the connection between the members was membership of the same branch of the armed forces, or the same school or university. Thus the growth of clubs provides an indicator as to what was considered a respectable part of the "Establishment" at the time.
By the late 19th century, any man with a credible claim to the status of "gentleman" was eventually able to find a club willing to admit him, unless his character was objectionable in some way or he was "unclubbable" (a word first used by Samuel Johnson).^[2] This newly-expanded category of English society came to include professionals who had to earn their income, such as doctors and lawyers."
Is it possible we are a gentleman's club? If so, I suspect I am unclubbable.

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Steve Smith

Re: Gentleman's Club

In reply to this post by thompnickson2

No. You don’t get off that easy, Jon. It’s a club of unclubbables. Perhaps we should change the name.

TheUnclubbables.com. It’s available for 0.99.

Nick

I see that our occasional (3 year hiatus?) comic-documentarian pre-saged this new identity by nearly a month!

http://friam-comic.blogspot.com/2020/04/

Though I think the proper appellation is "League of Extraordinary GentlePersons" even if our "not quite dead" white man behaviour does seem to suppress the more representative cross section we once had a larger smidgen of.