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Fwd: [IP] The email Flu bug

Pamela McCorduck


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From: dfarber <[hidden email]>
Date: October 13, 2011 1:18:42 PM MDT
To: "ip" <[hidden email]>
Subject: [IP] The email Flu bug
Reply-To: [hidden email]

Interesting, the past few days Blackberrys have had a bad time with many of their services out. Still after several days they don't have it all working. Today Apple launched its ICloud service ( I say today because it took hours to get the stuff downloaded). It failed in a very nasty way in that mail sometime vanished, sometimes appeared then vanished and often there was a user and/or password incorrect message plus dome rather obcyre additional error messages.

It was frustrating to me in that I kept looking for what I had dome wrong. Finally in confusion I pinged IP and found out I was not alone.

What of the non technical user -- the house=person, the grandmother who believed Apple would get ut right. 

Wjem wo;; they learn to stress test their products. Why don't they admit what happened?

Dave
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Re: Fwd: [IP] The email Flu bug

Douglas Roberts-2
Reports are that the IOS 5 upgrade is going anything but smoothly as well:

http://apple.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=2472920&cid=37693996


That didn't take too long to fail. Click on "Update," and it tells me I have to update iTunes. OK, fine, go do that. Computer reboots.

Take 2. Click on update, it downloads the nearly 700MB iTunes update, and makes a backup.

And then crashes, opening an Apple KB article that tells me I have to update iTunes in order to install the update. Er... I already did that?

I'll just uninstall iTunes and ... oh, wait, you can't do that on Mac OS X. You have to follow some magic instructions that involve deleting kernel extensions and rebooting three times. I'll have to look that up and ... oh, hey, Apple's support site now 503s.

Awesome.

Oh, hey, it hard-crashed my phone. I'll just pop out the battery to reboot it, and ... oh, crap. That's right, the Apple official way to restart a crashed iDevice is to let the battery drain. I'd link to the article, but their support site is down.

This comment was cute as well:

Thank you for updating your Apple products. Please rate your upgrade experience:

1. Insanely Great!

2. Magical

3. Innovative

4. Religious Ecstasy


--Doug

On Thu, Oct 13, 2011 at 1:31 PM, Pamela McCorduck <[hidden email]> wrote:


Begin forwarded message:

From: dfarber <[hidden email]>
Date: October 13, 2011 1:18:42 PM MDT
To: "ip" <[hidden email]>
Subject: [IP] The email Flu bug
Reply-To: [hidden email]

Interesting, the past few days Blackberrys have had a bad time with many of their services out. Still after several days they don't have it all working. Today Apple launched its ICloud service ( I say today because it took hours to get the stuff downloaded). It failed in a very nasty way in that mail sometime vanished, sometimes appeared then vanished and often there was a user and/or password incorrect message plus dome rather obcyre additional error messages.

It was frustrating to me in that I kept looking for what I had dome wrong. Finally in confusion I pinged IP and found out I was not alone.

What of the non technical user -- the house=person, the grandmother who believed Apple would get ut right. 

Wjem wo;; they learn to stress test their products. Why don't they admit what happened?

Dave
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Re: Fwd: [IP] The email Flu bug

Victoria Hughes
Would this also answer why since I upgraded iTunes last night, my system network can no longer remember my password for signing on to my own wireless - and can't hold the password when the computer goes to sleep or shuts down?  OS 10.5.9
So no emails, right, nor internet access despite a nice clear signal from under the sofa, like always. Now reduced to memorizing a long erratic string of numbers and letters and inputting them everytime my laptop snoozes, dang. 

Incidentally, I have never mentioned how much I appreciate that youall launch right into tech/political talk as soon as anything is going on. You are my secret weapon against the listless ignorance of the overwhelmed. Thanks.

Tory









On Oct 13, 2011, at 2:02 PM, Douglas Roberts wrote:

Reports are that the IOS 5 upgrade is going anything but smoothly as well:

http://apple.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=2472920&cid=37693996


That didn't take too long to fail. Click on "Update," and it tells me I have to update iTunes. OK, fine, go do that. Computer reboots.

Take 2. Click on update, it downloads the nearly 700MB iTunes update, and makes a backup.

And then crashes, opening an Apple KB article that tells me I have to update iTunes in order to install the update. Er... I already did that?

I'll just uninstall iTunes and ... oh, wait, you can't do that on Mac OS X. You have to follow some magic instructions that involve deleting kernel extensions and rebooting three times. I'll have to look that up and ... oh, hey, Apple's support site now 503s.

Awesome.

Oh, hey, it hard-crashed my phone. I'll just pop out the battery to reboot it, and ... oh, crap. That's right, the Apple official way to restart a crashed iDevice is to let the battery drain. I'd link to the article, but their support site is down.

This comment was cute as well:

Thank you for updating your Apple products. Please rate your upgrade experience:

1. Insanely Great!

2. Magical

3. Innovative

4. Religious Ecstasy


--Doug

On Thu, Oct 13, 2011 at 1:31 PM, Pamela McCorduck <[hidden email]> wrote:


Begin forwarded message:

From: dfarber <[hidden email]>
Date: October 13, 2011 1:18:42 PM MDT
To: "ip" <[hidden email]>
Subject: [IP] The email Flu bug
Reply-To: [hidden email]

Interesting, the past few days Blackberrys have had a bad time with many of their services out. Still after several days they don't have it all working. Today Apple launched its ICloud service ( I say today because it took hours to get the stuff downloaded). It failed in a very nasty way in that mail sometime vanished, sometimes appeared then vanished and often there was a user and/or password incorrect message plus dome rather obcyre additional error messages.

It was frustrating to me in that I kept looking for what I had dome wrong. Finally in confusion I pinged IP and found out I was not alone.

What of the non technical user -- the house=person, the grandmother who believed Apple would get ut right. 

Wjem wo;; they learn to stress test their products. Why don't they admit what happened?

Dave
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Re: Fwd: [IP] The email Flu bug

 

 


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Nick Thompson

Speaking as one of the listlessly ignorant and overwhelmed,

Are the 99 percent doing anything in Santa Fe?

 

Nick

 

From: [hidden email] [mailto:[hidden email]] On Behalf Of Victoria Hughes
Sent: Thursday, October 13, 2011 7:41 PM
To: The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group
Subject: Re: [FRIAM] Fwd: [IP] The email Flu bug

 

            Would this also answer why since I upgraded iTunes last night, my system network can no longer remember my password for signing on to my own wireless - and can't hold the password when the computer goes to sleep or shuts down?  OS 10.5.9

            So no emails, right, nor internet access despite a nice clear signal from under the sofa, like always. Now reduced to memorizing a long erratic string of numbers and letters and inputting them everytime my laptop snoozes, dang. 

 

            Incidentally, I have never mentioned how much I appreciate that youall launch right into tech/political talk as soon as anything is going on. You are my secret weapon against the listless ignorance of the overwhelmed. Thanks.

 

            Tory

 

 

         

 

 

 

 

 

 

On Oct 13, 2011, at 2:02 PM, Douglas Roberts wrote:



Reports are that the IOS 5 upgrade is going anything but smoothly as well:

 

http://apple.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=2472920&cid=37693996

 

 

That didn't take too long to fail. Click on "Update," and it tells me I have to update iTunes. OK, fine, go do that. Computer reboots.

Take 2. Click on update, it downloads the nearly 700MB iTunes update, and makes a backup.

And then crashes, opening an Apple KB article that tells me I have to update iTunes in order to install the update. Er... I already did that?

I'll just uninstall iTunes and ... oh, wait, you can't do that on Mac OS X. You have to follow some magic instructions that involve deleting kernel extensions and rebooting three times. I'll have to look that up and ... oh, hey, Apple's support site now 503s.

Awesome.

Oh, hey, it hard-crashed my phone. I'll just pop out the battery to reboot it, and ... oh, crap. That's right, the Apple official way to restart a crashed iDevice is to let the battery drain. I'd link to the article, but their support site is down.

This comment was cute as well:

 

Thank you for updating your Apple products. Please rate your upgrade experience:

1. Insanely Great!

2. Magical

3. Innovative

4. Religious Ecstasy

 

--Doug

On Thu, Oct 13, 2011 at 1:31 PM, Pamela McCorduck <[hidden email]> wrote:

 

 

Begin forwarded message:



From: dfarber <[hidden email]>

Date: October 13, 2011 1:18:42 PM MDT

To: "ip" <[hidden email]>

Subject: [IP] The email Flu bug

Reply-To: [hidden email]

 

Interesting, the past few days Blackberrys have had a bad time with many of their services out. Still after several days they don't have it all working. Today Apple launched its ICloud service ( I say today because it took hours to get the stuff downloaded). It failed in a very nasty way in that mail sometime vanished, sometimes appeared then vanished and often there was a user and/or password incorrect message plus dome rather obcyre additional error messages.

 

It was frustrating to me in that I kept looking for what I had dome wrong. Finally in confusion I pinged IP and found out I was not alone.

 

What of the non technical user -- the house=person, the grandmother who believed Apple would get ut right. 

 

Wjem wo;; they learn to stress test their products. Why don't they admit what happened?

 

Dave

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Re: Fwd: [IP] The email Flu bug

Owen Densmore
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On Thu, Oct 13, 2011 at 8:21 PM, Nicholas Thompson <[hidden email]> wrote:

Speaking as one of the listlessly ignorant and overwhelmed,

Are the 99 percent doing anything in Santa Fe?

 

Nick


As much as Occupy Santa Fe is cool, I'd much rather Occupy My First Mile or maybe Occupy My Wireless Network or Occupy My Research Papers or Occupy My Cell Phone or ...

Large organizations are screwing customers so badly, we're just pawns in their games. 

We may actually have an advantage here, as Tory points out.  We are sorta on top of the tech world and understand the customer-be-damned corporate ATTitude.

I was amused to here Saudia Arabia considering massive increase in oil production to bring down the price to screw Iran.  God I'd love to know how to bring some humility to corporate america.

        -- Owen 

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Re: Fwd: [IP] The email Flu bug

Parks, Raymond
In reply to this post by Victoria Hughes
Wow, Jobs dies and Apple goes to hell.

 
From: Victoria Hughes [mailto:[hidden email]]
Sent: Thursday, October 13, 2011 07:41 PM
To: The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group <[hidden email]>
Subject: Re: [FRIAM] Fwd: [IP] The email Flu bug
 
Would this also answer why since I upgraded iTunes last night, my system network can no longer remember my password for signing on to my own wireless - and can't hold the password when the computer goes to sleep or shuts down?  OS 10.5.9
So no emails, right, nor internet access despite a nice clear signal from under the sofa, like always. Now reduced to memorizing a long erratic string of numbers and letters and inputting them everytime my laptop snoozes, dang. 

Incidentally, I have never mentioned how much I appreciate that youall launch right into tech/political talk as soon as anything is going on. You are my secret weapon against the listless ignorance of the overwhelmed. Thanks.

Tory









On Oct 13, 2011, at 2:02 PM, Douglas Roberts wrote:

Reports are that the IOS 5 upgrade is going anything but smoothly as well:

http://apple.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=2472920&cid=37693996


That didn't take too long to fail. Click on "Update," and it tells me I have to update iTunes. OK, fine, go do that. Computer reboots.

Take 2. Click on update, it downloads the nearly 700MB iTunes update, and makes a backup.

And then crashes, opening an Apple KB article that tells me I have to update iTunes in order to install the update. Er... I already did that?

I'll just uninstall iTunes and ... oh, wait, you can't do that on Mac OS X. You have to follow some magic instructions that involve deleting kernel extensions and rebooting three times. I'll have to look that up and ... oh, hey, Apple's support site now 503s.

Awesome.

Oh, hey, it hard-crashed my phone. I'll just pop out the battery to reboot it, and ... oh, crap. That's right, the Apple official way to restart a crashed iDevice is to let the battery drain. I'd link to the article, but their support site is down.

This comment was cute as well:

Thank you for updating your Apple products. Please rate your upgrade experience:

1. Insanely Great!

2. Magical

3. Innovative

4. Religious Ecstasy


--Doug

On Thu, Oct 13, 2011 at 1:31 PM, Pamela McCorduck <[hidden email]> wrote:


Begin forwarded message:

From: dfarber <[hidden email]>
Date: October 13, 2011 1:18:42 PM MDT
To: "ip" <[hidden email]>
Subject: [IP] The email Flu bug
Reply-To: [hidden email]

Interesting, the past few days Blackberrys have had a bad time with many of their services out. Still after several days they don't have it all working. Today Apple launched its ICloud service ( I say today because it took hours to get the stuff downloaded). It failed in a very nasty way in that mail sometime vanished, sometimes appeared then vanished and often there was a user and/or password incorrect message plus dome rather obcyre additional error messages.

It was frustrating to me in that I kept looking for what I had dome wrong. Finally in confusion I pinged IP and found out I was not alone.

What of the non technical user -- the house=person, the grandmother who believed Apple would get ut right. 

Wjem wo;; they learn to stress test their products. Why don't they admit what happened?

Dave
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Re: One fix for the [IP] email Flu bug

Victoria Hughes
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Hello all-
In case this helps any related issues:

>>  I posted re: my computer not holding my modem's password after I uploaded the iTunes update, and having to manually go deep into system preferences to add it in each time my laptop slept or shut down.

• The fix, given to me by my ISP:
1. Open network preferences from your WiFi icon in the menu bar. 
Then click advanced. Delete the network that is giving you problems.
2. Open Keychain in the utilities folder of your hard drive. Find the passwords that are stored for your particular network and delete them. There may be multiple passwords for your network, so search carefully.
3. Repair permissions using the disk utility.
4. Reboot the computer.
5. Reenter your network data to log into the network.

Best, 
Tory



 On Oct 13, 2011, at 2:02 PM, Douglas Roberts wrote:

Reports are that the IOS 5 upgrade is going anything but smoothly as well:

http://apple.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=2472920&cid=37693996


That didn't take too long to fail. Click on "Update," and it tells me I have to update iTunes. OK, fine, go do that. Computer reboots.

Take 2. Click on update, it downloads the nearly 700MB iTunes update, and makes a backup.

And then crashes, opening an Apple KB article that tells me I have to update iTunes in order to install the update. Er... I already did that?

I'll just uninstall iTunes and ... oh, wait, you can't do that on Mac OS X. You have to follow some magic instructions that involve deleting kernel extensions and rebooting three times. I'll have to look that up and ... oh, hey, Apple's support site now 503s.

Awesome.

Oh, hey, it hard-crashed my phone. I'll just pop out the battery to reboot it, and ... oh, crap. That's right, the Apple official way to restart a crashed iDevice is to let the battery drain. I'd link to the article, but their support site is down.

This comment was cute as well:

Thank you for updating your Apple products. Please rate your upgrade experience:

1. Insanely Great!

2. Magical

3. Innovative

4. Religious Ecstasy


--Doug

On Thu, Oct 13, 2011 at 1:31 PM, Pamela McCorduck <[hidden email]> wrote:


Begin forwarded message:

From: dfarber <[hidden email]>
Date: October 13, 2011 1:18:42 PM MDT
To: "ip" <[hidden email]>
Subject: [IP] The email Flu bug
Reply-To: [hidden email]

Interesting, the past few days Blackberrys have had a bad time with many of their services out. Still after several days they don't have it all working. Today Apple launched its ICloud service ( I say today because it took hours to get the stuff downloaded). It failed in a very nasty way in that mail sometime vanished, sometimes appeared then vanished and often there was a user and/or password incorrect message plus dome rather obcyre additional error messages.

It was frustrating to me in that I kept looking for what I had dome wrong. Finally in confusion I pinged IP and found out I was not alone.

What of the non technical user -- the house=person, the grandmother who believed Apple would get ut right. 

Wjem wo;; they learn to stress test their products. Why don't they admit what happened?

Dave
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