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From Tibet to the edge of The Universe and back in 6:31 video: Rich Murray 2009.12.19

>From Tibet to the edge of The Universe and back in 6:31 video: Rich Murray
2009.12.19

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=17jymDn0W6U

Left click your mouse on the = symbol or the triangle symbol in the lower
left corner of the video to stop and start it, so you can look at each stage
of expansion into space at leisure.

At just before 1 light second distance, the Moon is not shown, but its orbit
is shown as a circle around the Earth as the distance grows.

When all the 1000 billion galaxies in the visible Universe are shown as two
cones of clouds of galaxy points with the two tips at our location,
and then the radiation from the Big Bang, 13.7 billion years ago, is shown
as blue and red colors in a sphere around the Universe as its observable
boundary, the amazing reality is that up to a distance 10 million billion
billion greater diameter, just as many galaxies exist that our region can
never see with ordinary light, because light is too slow to ever get from
there to us -- that means a greater volume of
(10 million billion billion) times
(10 million billion billion) times
(10 million billion billion),
just as full of galaxies.

The two cones of galaxies that are shown result from the fact that we are in
a single galaxy, and cannot see past its own 1000 billion stars, but only
sideways up and below the flat round plate of the basic shape of our galaxy,
which rotates around its center about every 220 million years.

It's great that Tibet's mountains and high plateaus and the great desert in
southwest China are shown.

Many of the lakes in Tibet may be from ice comet fragment impacts 12,950
years ago, that hit many areas of the Earth at 5 km per second speed, making
steam explosions as big as nuclear bombs, leaving shallow round, oval, and
crooked craters.
They are easy to study at high flat areas with Google Earth and Google Maps:

exact Carolina Bay crater locations, RB Firestone, A West, et al, two YD
reviews, 2008 June, 2009 Nov, also 3 upcoming abstracts: Rich Murray
2009.11.14
http://rmforall.blogspot.com/2009_11_01_archive.htm
Saturday, November 14, 2009
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/astrodeep/message/31

Happy Holidays everyone ! Rich

Rich Murray, MA
Boston University Graduate School 1967 psychology,
BS MIT 1964, history and physics,
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Stephen Thompson

Re: From Tibet to the edge of The Universe and back in 6:31 video: Rich Murray 2009.12.19

humbling, incomprehensible, and of course cool.

Rich Murray wrote:

>> From Tibet to the edge of The Universe and back in 6:31 video: Rich
>> Murray
> 2009.12.19
>
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=17jymDn0W6U
>
> Left click your mouse on the = symbol or the triangle symbol in the
> lower left corner of the video to stop and start it, so you can look
> at each stage of expansion into space at leisure.
>
> At just before 1 light second distance, the Moon is not shown, but its
> orbit is shown as a circle around the Earth as the distance grows.
>
> When all the 1000 billion galaxies in the visible Universe are shown
> as two cones of clouds of galaxy points with the two tips at our
> location,
> and then the radiation from the Big Bang, 13.7 billion years ago, is
> shown as blue and red colors in a sphere around the Universe as its
> observable boundary, the amazing reality is that up to a distance 10
> million billion billion greater diameter, just as many galaxies exist
> that our region can never see with ordinary light, because light is
> too slow to ever get from there to us -- that means a greater volume of
> (10 million billion billion) times
> (10 million billion billion) times
> (10 million billion billion),
> just as full of galaxies.
>
> The two cones of galaxies that are shown result from the fact that we
> are in a single galaxy, and cannot see past its own 1000 billion
> stars, but only sideways up and below the flat round plate of the
> basic shape of our galaxy, which rotates around its center about every
> 220 million years.
>
> It's great that Tibet's mountains and high plateaus and the great
> desert in southwest China are shown.
>
> Many of the lakes in Tibet may be from ice comet fragment impacts
> 12,950 years ago, that hit many areas of the Earth at 5 km per second
> speed, making steam explosions as big as nuclear bombs, leaving
> shallow round, oval, and crooked craters.
> They are easy to study at high flat areas with Google Earth and Google
> Maps:
>
> exact Carolina Bay crater locations, RB Firestone, A West, et al, two
> YD reviews, 2008 June, 2009 Nov, also 3 upcoming abstracts: Rich Murray
> 2009.11.14
> http://rmforall.blogspot.com/2009_11_01_archive.htm
> Saturday, November 14, 2009
> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/astrodeep/message/31
>
>
> Happy Holidays everyone ! Rich
>
> Rich Murray, MA
> Boston University Graduate School 1967 psychology,
> BS MIT 1964, history and physics,
> 1943 Otowi Road, Santa Fe, New Mexico 87505
> 505-501-2298 [hidden email]
> Sondra Spies 505-983-8250
>
> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AstroDeep/messages
>
> http://RMForAll.blogspot.com new primary archive
>
> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/aspartameNM/messages
> group with 142 members, 1,589 posts in a public archive
>
> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/aspartame/messages
> group with 1204 members, 23,955 posts in a public archive
>
> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/rmforall/messages
>
> participant, Santa Fe Complex www.sfcomplex.org
> _____________________________________________________
>
>
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Jochen Fromm-4

Re: From Tibet to the edge of The Universe and back in 6:31video: Rich Murray 2009.12.19

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Nice video. How small our pale blue dot is..
The number of spiral arms in the Milky Way seems
to be too small, and it is missing the central bar.
The real Milky Way looks more like this
http://antwrp.gsfc.nasa.gov/apod/ap050825.html

-J.

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michael barron

Re: From Tibet to the edge of The Universe and back in 6:31video: Rich Murray 2009.12.19

rich:

why come back. It's the final frontier, and we need to keep on going !!!!!!!!!!!!

michael barron

On Sun, Dec 20, 2009 at 7:58 AM, Jochen Fromm <[hidden email]> wrote:

Nice video. How small our pale blue dot is.. The number of spiral arms in the Milky Way seems to be too small, and it is missing the central bar. The real Milky Way looks more like this
http://antwrp.gsfc.nasa.gov/apod/ap050825.html

-J.

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Rich Murray

Re: From Tibet to the edge of The Universe and back in6:31video: Rich Murray 2009.12.19

Yes.
Single infinite unity
Always already right here
As awareness
Lifts us
Outward
Beyond
All spaces and times.

Rich
Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry

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Date: Sun, 20 Dec 2009 10:20:05
To: The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group<[hidden email]>
Subject: Re: [FRIAM] From Tibet to the edge of The Universe and back in
6:31video: Rich Murray 2009.12.19

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Jochen Fromm-4

Re: From Tibet to the edge of The Universe and backin6:31video: Rich Murray 2009.12.19

Merlin Donald makes in his book
"A mind so rare" (p.100) an interesting
comparison of astronomy with neuroanatomy:

"The brain's three-dimensional complexity
makes its examination and its visualization
very difficult. In comparison, the ancient
astronomers had it easy. They recorded and
rerecorded the same familiar pattern of points
of light in the night sky for thousands of
years. Their database was stable, reappearing
in the same cyclic configuration over and over,
night after night, year after year. They had
the leisure to try one geometric solution,
then another, and then another for millennia.
All the while, well into the ninetenenth
century, their theories evolved, but their
basic database did not change very much. One
is tempted to wonder, What took them so long?
Compare the simplicity of their task with
the dilemma of a modern neuroscientists trying
to construct a model of a living brain. Unlike
the relative stationary stars, patiently
emitting light for the leisurely delight of
endless generations of peripatetic astronomers,
the electrical patterns of the brain are
constantly moving, changing, flashing codes and
rhythms that are harnessed to the actions of
living organisms. It is as if the stars of the
astronomers had come to life, moving around,
bursting and recombining into various functional
clusters, their actions embedded in, and
determined by, countless undeciphered codes.
Unlike the near vacuum of interstellar space,
the neuronal heavens are alive and intelligent.
They have their own mind, so to speak.

This makes the brain hard to study. It is a
world of incessant activity and filled structural
detail, including cells, microtubules, chemical
and electrical pathways, an infinity of structures,
depending on what scale of anatomical analysis
we might want to single out. When we view a
magnified image of a clump of neurons, depending
on the scale we choose, those innocent-looking
black blobs and strips in the picture might
reflect the presence not only of single neurons
but of entire globular clusters of neurons, known
as nuclei and ganglia, or of the tangles of
interconnections, neural plexuses, that link them
together. Each cluster is a world unto itself,
which its own unique connections. And on it goes.
Nothing in the universe, natural or man-made, is
more beautiful or mysterious."

-J.

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michael barron

Re: From Tibet to the edge of The Universe and back in6:31video: Rich Murray 2009.12.19

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rich:

Have you ever gone into NASA/ESA and got the astronomy picture for the day!!

They are excellent.

regards

michael barron

On Sun, Dec 20, 2009 at 12:00 PM, <[hidden email]> wrote:

Yes.
Single infinite unity
Always already right here
As awareness
Lifts us
Outward
Beyond
All spaces and times.

Rich
Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry

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Date: Sun, 20 Dec 2009 10:20:05
To: The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group<[hidden email]>
Subject: Re: [FRIAM] From Tibet to the edge of The Universe and back in
6:31video: Rich Murray 2009.12.19

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Stephen Thompson

Re: From Tibet to the edge of The Universe and back in 6:31video: Rich Murray 2009.12.19

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Anyone else use to imagine when they were a kid having a private flying saucer that
came up out of a hidden lab underground in the back yard ? Especially when
camping in the North Woods where you could actually see the Milky Way when you
looked up?

(at this point my brother, the PhD in Quantum Chemistry says: "Whatcha mean "used to?" !)
;-)

Steph Thompson

michael barron wrote:

rich:

why come back. It's the final frontier, and we need to keep on going !!!!!!!!!!!!

michael barron

On Sun, Dec 20, 2009 at 7:58 AM, Jochen Fromm <[hidden email]> wrote:

Nice video. How small our pale blue dot is.. The number of spiral arms in the Milky Way seems to be too small, and it is missing the central bar. The real Milky Way looks more like this
http://antwrp.gsfc.nasa.gov/apod/ap050825.html

-J.

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Douglas Roberts-2

Re: From Tibet to the edge of The Universe and back in 6:31video: Rich Murray 2009.12.19

Uh, yup...

--Doug

On Sun, Dec 20, 2009 at 9:02 PM, Stephen Thompson <[hidden email]> wrote:

Anyone else use to imagine when they were a kid having a private flying saucer that
came up out of a hidden lab underground in the back yard ? Especially when
camping in the North Woods where you could actually see the Milky Way when you
looked up?

(at this point my brother, the PhD in Quantum Chemistry says: "Whatcha mean "used to?" !)
;-)

Steph Thompson

michael barron wrote:
rich:

why come back. It's the final frontier, and we need to keep on going !!!!!!!!!!!!

michael barron

On Sun, Dec 20, 2009 at 7:58 AM, Jochen Fromm <[hidden email]> wrote:

Nice video. How small our pale blue dot is.. The number of spiral arms in the Milky Way seems to be too small, and it is missing the central bar. The real Milky Way looks more like this
http://antwrp.gsfc.nasa.gov/apod/ap050825.html

-J.

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Robert J. Cordingley

Re: From Tibet to the edge of The Universe and back in 6:31 video: Rich Murray 2009.12.19

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Also, here's the TED talk by George Smoot from May 2008 that includes
video presentation of the structure of the universe with dark matter
included and where galaxies sit.

http://www.ted.com/talks/george_smoot_on_the_design_of_the_universe.html

Thanks
Robert C

Rich Murray wrote: