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I've been getting friam email out of order and/or delayed and decided
to poke at it a bit, mainly because my mail path is a bit complex being forwarded from my hosting service to gmail. Here are two headers, reformatted for readability and normalized to PST. They both show a considerable delay coming out of hostgo, friam's hosting service (marked via **) Could any of you check either these two emails or any others that were delayed for you and see if you say a delay from milan.hostgo.com? Don't forget to normalize to UMT or PST or whatever. And let me know if I'm mis-interpreting the header data! There are other header elements within the time stamps, some of which may point to problems (friam bounces for example and possible spam/authentication notations), but for now I'm only interested to see if other folks see delays in the outgoing hostgo server. If so we can submit a hostgo service request. Now back to our regular programming! -- Owen //// Roger Critchlow: The Professors’ Big Stage [9:43:14] Date: Fri, 8 Mar 2013 10:43:14 -0700 [09:43:14] Fri, 08 Mar 2013 09:43:14 -0800 (PST) X-Received: by 10.112.87.132 with SMTP id ay4mr1336534lbb.87.1362764594229; Fri, 08 Mar 2013 09:43:14 -0800 (PST) [09:43:14] Fri, 08 Mar 2013 09:43:14 -0800 (PST) Received: by mail-la0-f50.google.com with SMTP id ec20so1934769lab.37 for <[hidden email]>; Fri, 08 Mar 2013 09:43:14 -0800 (PST) [9:43:22] Fri, 08 Mar 2013 12:43:22 -0500 Received: from mail-la0-f50.google.com ([209.85.215.50]:40515) by milan.hostgo.com with esmtps (TLSv1:RC4-SHA:128) (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from <[hidden email]>) id 1UE1K8-0003cg-EX for [hidden email]; Fri, 08 Mar 2013 12:43:22 -0500 [9:43:25] Fri, 08 Mar 2013 12:43:25 -0500 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:50882 helo=milan.hostgo.com) by milan.hostgo.com with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from <[hidden email]>) id 1UE1KG-0003f7-TE; Fri, 08 Mar 2013 12:43:25 -0500 ** [4:06:03] Sat, 9 Mar 2013 12:06:03 +0000 (UTC) Received: from milan.hostgo.com (unknown [216.218.220.34]) by heather.textdrive.us (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 22A9D2968B2; Sat, 9 Mar 2013 12:06:03 +0000 (UTC) [04:06:05] Sat, 09 Mar 2013 04:06:05 -0800 (PST) Received: from heather.textdrive.us (heather.textdrive.us. [199.192.243.48]) by mx.google.com with ESMTP id tm6si11197883pbc.55.2013.03.09.04.06.05; Sat, 09 Mar 2013 04:06:05 -0800 (PST) [04:06:06] Sat, 09 Mar 2013 04:06:06 -0800 (PST) X-Received: by 10.68.136.138 with SMTP id qa10mr10834943pbb.20.1362830766092; Sat, 09 Mar 2013 04:06:06 -0800 (PST) [04:06:07] Sat, 9 Mar 2013 04:06:07 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.216.116.6 with SMTP id f6csp28660weh; Sat, 9 Mar 2013 04:06:07 -0800 (PST) //// Curt McNamara: Learning by transcribing/translating [20:03:05] Date: Thu, 7 Mar 2013 22:03:05 -0600 Received: by 10.42.130.200 with HTTP; Thu, 7 Mar 2013 20:03:05 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.42.130.200 with HTTP; Thu, 7 Mar 2013 20:03:05 -0800 (PST) [20:03:06] Thu, 07 Mar 2013 20:03:06 -0800 (PST) X-Received: by 10.50.187.225 with SMTP id fv1mr553402igc.74.1362715386032; Thu, 07 Mar 2013 20:03:06 -0800 (PST) [20:03:06] Thu, 07 Mar 2013 20:03:06 -0800 (PST) Received: by mail-ia0-f179.google.com with SMTP id x24so1105863iak.24 for <[hidden email]>; Thu, 07 Mar 2013 20:03:06 -0800 (PST) [20:03:07] Thu, 07 Mar 2013 23:03:07 -0500 Received: from mail-ia0-f179.google.com ([209.85.210.179]:58751) by milan.hostgo.com with esmtps (TLSv1:RC4-SHA:128) (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from <[hidden email]>) id 1UDoWQ-0001ST-Af for [hidden email]; Thu, 07 Mar 2013 23:03:07 -0500 [20:03:09] Thu, 07 Mar 2013 23:03:09 -0500 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:51506 helo=milan.hostgo.com) by milan.hostgo.com with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from <[hidden email]>) id 1UDoWT-0001T6-9C; Thu, 07 Mar 2013 23:03:09 -0500 ** [01:26:53] Sat, 9 Mar 2013 09:26:53 +0000 (UTC) Received: from milan.hostgo.com (unknown [216.218.220.34]) by heather.textdrive.us (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4119A296A09; Sat, 9 Mar 2013 09:26:53 +0000 (UTC) [01:26:55] Sat, 09 Mar 2013 01:26:55 -0800 (PST) Received: from heather.textdrive.us (heather.textdrive.us. [199.192.243.48]) by mx.google.com with ESMTP id rz8si10500290pbc.87.2013.03.09.01.26.54; Sat, 09 Mar 2013 01:26:55 -0800 (PST) [01:26:56] Sat, 9 Mar 2013 01:26:56 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.216.116.6 with SMTP id f6csp24775weh; Sat, 9 Mar 2013 01:26:56 -0800 (PST) ============================================================ FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv Meets Fridays 9a-11:30 at cafe at St. John's College to unsubscribe http://redfish.com/mailman/listinfo/friam_redfish.com |
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OK, I presume this means I'm the only one seeing this problem?
So I'll start messing with my hosting service etc. Damn. If any of you looked at this, do let me know so I do not Flail In Darkness. -- Owen On Sat, Mar 9, 2013 at 11:40 AM, Owen Densmore <[hidden email]> wrote: I've been getting friam email out of order and/or delayed and decided ============================================================ FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv Meets Fridays 9a-11:30 at cafe at St. John's College to unsubscribe http://redfish.com/mailman/listinfo/friam_redfish.com |
Owen, I've certainly been seeing some FRIAM messages out of order (especially about two days ago), but I never got around to looking at the headers as you suggested.
Gary On Mar 10, 2013, at 9:42 PM, Owen Densmore <[hidden email]> wrote: OK, I presume this means I'm the only one seeing this problem? ============================================================ FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv Meets Fridays 9a-11:30 at cafe at St. John's College to unsubscribe http://redfish.com/mailman/listinfo/friam_redfish.com |
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Owen -- Whenever I sorted something like this out, it usually meant that the receiving end of a hop failed to respond within a timeout and the message got queued for retry after X hours. Meaning that the machine running your mail exchanger is getting locked out of running your code for for five or ten seconds at a crack.
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On Sun, Mar 10, 2013 at 8:52 PM, Roger Critchlow <[hidden email]> wrote:
Thanks! .. good observation. In this case, the lag appears, looking at my headers, that hostgo has this timeout problem? If so I can just post a trouble ticket with them. If not, I gotta explore my mail round trip: google->hostgo->textdrive->google.
My concern is whether or not my "sophisticated" mail setup with mail forwarding and google's "reply to" .. both of which allow me to have my "[hidden email]" address rather than my google address "[hidden email]" which I'd prefer not to use.
DNS unique name: good. 20+ years and loving it! If others of us are seeing delays, and can check their headers to see where they are, that would be a Good Thing. -- Owen ============================================================ FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv Meets Fridays 9a-11:30 at cafe at St. John's College to unsubscribe http://redfish.com/mailman/listinfo/friam_redfish.com |
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