Friam Digest, Vol 55, Issue 5

[Nick Thompson]

Merde, Roger.  

This was partly my mistake. My son, the teachaholic, wasnt going up there,
so I figured there was no THERE to go up to.   The switchboard didnt
answer!  Was there anything but an empty hall?  Whom did they expect to
feed?    We will check more carefully before next week. Did St Johns say
there WOULD be a next week.  

The conversation at owen's was really focussed and interesting  Basically
(my version) we were trying to convince the mathematicians in the room that
they had SOME responsibility to make themselves intelligible to the rest of
us.  "Take four courses in Math, kill a fatted calf, and then come up to
the Temple" was not going to cut it.  The conversation was particularly
timely for one of us (Dave West) who is urgently trying to develop an MA
program in compscis (?).  We needed you, obviously.  

Sorry to have missed you.  

What did you guys talk about?

N

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>    1. Re: FRIAM at Owen & Dede's place (Roger Critchlow)
>    2. Re: Intel bails out of OLPC (Tom Johnson)
>    3. FW: Intel Leaves OLPC (Randy Burge)
>    4. math wiki issues yet again (Carl Tollander)
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> Date: Fri, 4 Jan 2008 11:41:06 -0700
> From: "Roger Critchlow" <rec at elf.org>
> Subject: Re: [FRIAM] FRIAM at Owen & Dede's place
> To: "The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group"
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> Ah, so that's why there were only four of us at St Johns.
>
> -- rec --
>
> On Jan 3, 2008 10:03 PM, Owen Densmore <owen at backspaces.net> wrote:
>
> > Folks: It looks like St John's is uncertain and some of us think
> > Mission Cafe sucks.
> >
> > Thus we've come up with an alternative:  We'll have it at our place,
> > starting at 9:30 (sorry, we like to sleep!).  I think several folks
> > have been here and its pretty easy to find:
> >        908 Camino Santander
> >        Santa Fe, NM 87505
> >        Phone: [phone]
> > Here's a picture:
> >        http://backspaces.net/files/BonEcho001.jpg
> > .. note we're fairly close to St John's anyway.
> >
> > WiFi will be provided!   :)
> >
> > We'll provide coffee and possibly something else .. and food
> > contributions will be welcome!
> >
> > Owen & Dede
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > ============================================================
> > FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv
> > Meets Fridays 9a-11:30 at cafe at St. John's College
> > lectures, archives, unsubscribe, maps at http://www.friam.org
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> Date: Fri, 4 Jan 2008 13:17:30 -0700
> From: "Tom Johnson" <tom at jtjohnson.com>
> Subject: Re: [FRIAM] Intel bails out of OLPC
> To: "The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group"
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> I guess Intel isn't familiar with the term "salting the mine."  Or, in

this

> case, "salting the MIND."
>
> I recall how the Las Vegas casino operators were initially fearful that if
> the individual states allowed things like riverboat casinos, LV would pay
> the price.  Of course, it turned out just the opposite because the non-LV
> gaming (NB: We are no longer allowed to call it "gambling.") joints served
> as training grounds and farm teams.  The gamblers out in the hinterland,
> after learning something about how the tables and games worked, aspired to
> try out their skills in the Major League environs, and LV prospered.
>
> Expose a kid to the XO, and then ask, "How long before he/she aspires to a
> bigger, faster device?  One that might well be powered by an Intel chip."
> -tj
>
> On Jan 4, 2008 9:51 AM, Pamela McCorduck <pamela at well.com> wrote:
>
> > Looks like Intel has bailed  out of OLPC:
> > http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/technology/7171201.stm
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Le temps s'en va, le temps s'en va, ma Dame
> > Las! le temps non, mais nous nous en allons.
> >
> > For time speeds onward, time speeds on, my lady
> > Alas! it's we who must speed on, not time.
> >
> > Pierre de Ronsard
> >
> >
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> > ============================================================
> > FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv
> > Meets Fridays 9a-11:30 at cafe at St. John's College
> > lectures, archives, unsubscribe, maps at http://www.friam.org
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> J. T. Johnson
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> "You never change things by fighting the existing reality.
> To change something, build a new model that makes the
> existing model obsolete."
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> Date: Fri, 04 Jan 2008 15:36:32 -0700
> From: Randy Burge <burge at proactiveteams.com>
> Subject: [FRIAM] FW: Intel Leaves OLPC
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> >
> > January 4, 2008
> > Intel Leaves Group Backing Education PCs
> > By JOHN MARKOFF
>

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/01/04/technology/04laptop.html?ex=1357189200&en=

> c4afaa5aaf035432&ei=5090&partner=rssuserland&emc=rss&pagewanted=all
> >>
> >
> > SAN FRANCISCO ? Intel said Thursday that it had chosen to withdraw
> > from the One Laptop Per Child educational computer organization, which
> > it joined in July after years of public squabbling between Intel?s
> > chairman, Craig R. Barrett, and the group?s founder, Nicholas P.
> > Negroponte.
> >
> > The low-cost laptop, originally priced at $100, has captured the
> > public imagination but also created intense controversy because it was
> > viewed as a potential competitor for both Intel and Microsoft in the
> > developing world.
> >
> > The machine, which is based on the freely available Linux operating
> > system and comes with educational software, is now built with a
> > microprocessor made by Intel?s archrival, Advanced Micro Devices. The
> > PC, called the XO, is being sold for about $200 apiece to governments
> > and institutions.
> >
> > On Thursday an Intel spokesman said the company shared with O.L.P.C.
> > the vision of putting computers into the hands of children, but the
> > two were not able to work out what he described as ?philosophical?
> > differences.
> >
> > Intel did not attend a recent board meeting of the group in Florida,
> > according to a person familiar with the events, who asked not to be
> > named because he had not been given authority to describe the events.
> > That set off a bitter private dispute, which led to the Thursday
> > announcement.
> >
> > ?We?ve reached a philosophical impasse,? said Chuck Mulloy, the Intel
> > spokesman. ?Negroponte had asked us to exclusively support O.L.P.C.-
> > based platforms.?
> >
> > For emerging markets, Intel has been backing its own, more expensive
> > Classmate PC, which sells for about $300. Mr. Mulloy said Intel was
> > unwilling to walk away from support agreements that the company had
> > made for that machine and other systems.
> >
> > Intel also said it was able to develop a prototype of an XO computer
> > with an Intel chip.
> >
> > [snip]
>
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> Message: 4
> Date: Fri, 04 Jan 2008 19:31:55 -0700
> From: Carl Tollander <carl at plektyx.com>
> Subject: [FRIAM] math wiki issues yet again
> To: The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group
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> The folks over at the N-category Cafe are revisiting the idea of having
> a math wiki.   This seems
> to be a perennial issue for us in FRIAM, and the N-Cat discussion on
> this issue has some interesting angles
> vis-a-vis Wikipedia, so go there and read:
>    
>

http://golem.ph.utexas.edu/category/2007/09/towards_a_higherdimensional_wi.h
tml

>
> Carl
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