Friam Digest, Vol 37, Issue 55

[magd maged]

I think the topic of complex systems is too wide to be
included in one book unless it mentions the subtopics
briefly. Moreover the wide background of peole
interested in complex systems will make it extremely
difficult to agree on one book.

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> To: "The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee
> Group" <friam at redfish.com>
> Date: Sat, 29 Jul 2006 12:51:12 -0600
> Subject: Re: [FRIAM] FRIAM book
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> The IAJ Press would be pleased and honored to
> publish such a book.
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> -Tom Johnson
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> > > From: friam-bounces at redfish.com
> > > [mailto:friam-bounces at redfish.com] On Behalf Of
> Jochen Fromm
> > > Sent: Friday, July 28, 2006 4:21 AM
> > > To: 'The Friday Morning Applied Complexity
> Coffee Group'
> > > Subject: [FRIAM] FRIAM book
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> > > The recent discussion about the advances in the
> field
> > > of complexity science and Owen's question about
> a
> > > sound basis for discussions about complex
> systems
> > > caused me to think about the current state of
> the
> > > field and its literature. Perhaps a definite
> book
> > > is missing. Won't it be an interesting endeavour
> > > to write one ? Perhaps with Stephen as an editor
> ?
> > > A FRIAM book about Agent-Based Modeling, Complex
> Systems,
> > > Artificial Life, Evolutionary Computation and
> Swarm
> > > Intelligence ? It could cover for instance
> complex
> > > networks, complex adaptive systems, basic
> agent-based
> > > models, edge of chaos, frozen accidents, path
> dependence,
> > > self-organization, types and forms of emergence,
> swarm
> > > intelligence,..
> > >
> > > -J.
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> > >
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> > From: "Phil Henshaw" <sy at synapse9.com>
> To: "'The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee
> Group'" <friam at redfish.com>
> Date: Sat, 29 Jul 2006 16:27:20 -0400
> Subject: Re: [FRIAM] neurons & synapses
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> in a little Google neurology review found a really
> marvelous resource:
>

http://sky.bsd.uchicago.edu/lcy_ref/synap/synapse.html

> by Dave Atkins at
> George Wash U. in DC
>
> ...that beautifully describes the difference between
> bi-directional
> electrical synapses and the various types of one
> directional chemical
> synapses, and lots more.  Two of various new puzzles
> I came across are
> that some purely 'structural' brain cells
> (astrocytes) apparently have
> large mediating influences, and that the synaptic
> gaps (clefts)
> separating the two sides is a closed space
> "blanketed by neural
> connective tissue cells (glia)".   In an earlier
> post I compared the
> openness of the cleft to freely circulating neural
> fluid (which is
> apparently not free flowing at all) as a structure
> allowing cross
> fertilization of the neuron-to-neuron signals as
> between pistol and
> stamen in flowers.   Oh well, that's what a drawing
> board is for,
> supplying the waste basket!
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[Jochen Fromm-3]

Certainly. The topic complex systems is wide.
Yet if we focus on what "the sciences of complexity"
have achieved and accomplished in the last 20 years -
the SFI exists for more than 20 years, see for example
http://www.santafe.edu/research/publications/bulletin/fall2004v19n2.pdf 
the list becomes much smaller, the topic becomes
easier to handle and it is easier to come to an
agreement.

To collect the ideas in a MediaWiki is a good idea.
Maybe it would be recommendable to start with a coarse
table of contents (I. "What has complexity science
achieved so far?", II. "What is the state of the art and
the cutting edge of research?", and III. "What major
challenges and unsolved problems lie ahead?").

-J.


-----Original Message-----
From: magd maged
Sent: Monday, July 31, 2006 8:19 AM
To: friam at redfish.com
Subject: Re: [FRIAM] Friam Digest, Vol 37, Issue 55

I think the topic of complex systems is too wide to be
included in one book unless it mentions the subtopics
briefly. Moreover the wide background of peole
interested in complex systems will make it extremely
difficult to agree on one book.

[Günther Greindl-2]

I abolutely agree. Also, I think it's a plus
that the people on this list have a diverse background.
After all, complexity science is interdisciplinarity
par excellence. So, whatever results from this collaboration
could very well be a good foundation for further work.

Regards,
G?nther

Jochen Fromm wrote:

> Certainly. The topic complex systems is wide.
> Yet if we focus on what "the sciences of complexity"
> have achieved and accomplished in the last 20 years -
> the SFI exists for more than 20 years, see for example
> http://www.santafe.edu/research/publications/bulletin/fall2004v19n2.pdf 
> the list becomes much smaller, the topic becomes
> easier to handle and it is easier to come to an
> agreement.
>
> To collect the ideas in a MediaWiki is a good idea.
> Maybe it would be recommendable to start with a coarse
> table of contents (I. "What has complexity science
> achieved so far?", II. "What is the state of the art and
> the cutting edge of research?", and III. "What major
> challenges and unsolved problems lie ahead?").
>
> -J.
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: magd maged
> Sent: Monday, July 31, 2006 8:19 AM
> To: friam at redfish.com
> Subject: Re: [FRIAM] Friam Digest, Vol 37, Issue 55
>
> I think the topic of complex systems is too wide to be
> included in one book unless it mentions the subtopics
> briefly. Moreover the wide background of peole
> interested in complex systems will make it extremely
> difficult to agree on one book.
>
>
>
>
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