Friam Digest, Vol 28, Issue 17
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Does any body know what the measures are. I confess, having gone back and forth between NM and MA several times, I havent noticed that great a difference. Shirly BACA would make our Faculty Chair look like a Genius and the SFE City Council would make our department meeting look like a Council of Wizards Nick . Nicholas S. Thompson Professor of Psychology and Ethology Clark University nickthompson at earthlink.net http://home.earthlink.net/~nickthompson/ nthompson at clarku.edu > [Original Message] > From: <Friam-request at redfish.com> > To: <Friam at redfish.com> > Date: 10/11/2005 1:29:36 AM > Subject: Friam Digest, Vol 28, Issue 17 > > Send Friam mailing list submissions to > Friam at redfish.com > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > http://redfish.com/mailman/listinfo/friam_redfish.com > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > Friam-request at redfish.com > > You can reach the person managing the list at > Friam-owner at redfish.com > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of Friam digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. States Ranked: Smartest to Dumbest (Joseph Dalessandro) > 2. Re: States Ranked: Smartest to Dumbest (Raymond Parks) > 3. Re: States Ranked: Smartest to Dumbest (Michael Gizzi) > 4. Re: States Ranked: Smartest to Dumbest (Owen Densmore) > 5. friam links (Sven Gato Redsun) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Mon, 10 Oct 2005 15:22:13 -0600 > From: "Joseph Dalessandro" <joe at nan0.com> > Subject: [FRIAM] States Ranked: Smartest to Dumbest > To: "The Friday Morning Complexity Coffee Group" <Friam at redfish.com> > Message-ID: <1128979333.22306.244846060 at webmail.messagingengine.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" > > I was sent the education article by a friend in another state. I'm > disappointed, and a little surprised. I had heard from multiple sources > that New Mexico ranked very low in education and healthcare, but I never > realized how low. Yikes. > > ******* FIRST YIKES ******* > States Ranked: Smartest to Dumbest > > The smartest state in the union for the second consecutive year is > Massachusetts. > > The dumbest, for the third year in a row, is New Mexico. > > ARTICLE: > s > > > ******* SECOND YIKES ******* > Healthcare rankings: > > 2005 2004 2003 2002 2001 > New Mexico 48 49 46 48 45 > > ARTICLE: > http://www.morganquitno.com/hc93-05.htm > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 2 > Date: Mon, 10 Oct 2005 17:47:41 -0600 > From: "Raymond Parks" <rcparks at sandia.gov> > Subject: Re: [FRIAM] States Ranked: Smartest to Dumbest > To: "The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group" > <Friam at redfish.com> > Message-ID: <434AFD9D.6030401 at sandia.gov> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed > > Joseph Dalessandro wrote: > > I was sent the education article by a friend in another state. I'm > > disappointed, and a little surprised. I had heard from multiple sources > > that New Mexico ranked very low in education and healthcare, but I never > > realized how low. Yikes. > > Well, take comfort in the likelihood that Mississippi and Alabama > should displace us, once again, after this hurricane season. > > If you really want to be depressed, check out where Los Alamos and > Bernalillo County rank, nation-wide, for education and realize how bad > the other counties must be to drag the state down to #50. The variance > in quality of education in this state is exceptionally large. > > -- > Ray Parks rcparks at sandia.gov > IDART Project Lead Voice:505-844-4024 > IORTA Department Fax:505-844-9641 > http://www.sandia.gov/idart Pager:800-690-5288 > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 3 > Date: Mon, 10 Oct 2005 19:52:51 -0600 > From: Michael Gizzi <mgizzi at gmail.com> > Subject: Re: [FRIAM] States Ranked: Smartest to Dumbest > To: The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group > <Friam at redfish.com> > Message-ID: > <f678d22b0510101852k1ad50f3ased78d45891f5e073 at mail.gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > > What I found interesting was that with the exception of the West coast, > top ten were almost entirely "Blue" states. Heck, they were pretty much the > only blue states. What does that tell us? Anything? > > I don't live in NM, but there really must be huge disparities to cause that > ranking. Where does NM rank in poverty? Is it one thing bringing it down? > > I am surprised too that Colorado ranked as high as it did, given our > pathetic funding of education (where we rank around 48 - 49 depending on the > poll). > > Michael Gizzi > > On 10/10/05, Raymond Parks <rcparks at sandia.gov> wrote: > > > > Joseph Dalessandro wrote: > > > I was sent the education article by a friend in another state. I'm > > > disappointed, and a little surprised. I had heard from multiple sources > > > that New Mexico ranked very low in education and healthcare, but I never > > > realized how low. Yikes. > > > > Well, take comfort in the likelihood that Mississippi and Alabama > > should displace us, once again, after this hurricane season. > > > > If you really want to be depressed, check out where Los Alamos and > > Bernalillo County rank, nation-wide, for education and realize how bad > > the other counties must be to drag the state down to #50. The variance > > in quality of education in this state is exceptionally large. > > > > -- > > Ray Parks rcparks at sandia.gov > > IDART Project Lead Voice:505-844-4024 > > IORTA Department Fax:505-844-9641 > > http://www.sandia.gov/idart Pager:800-690-5288 > > > > > > ============================================================ > > FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv > > Meets Fridays 9:30a-11:30 at ad hoc locations > > Lecture schedule, archives, unsubscribe, etc.: > > http://www.friam.org > > > -------------- next part -------------- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: /attachment-0001.htm > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 4 > Date: Mon, 10 Oct 2005 22:42:11 -0600 > From: Owen Densmore <owen at backspaces.net> > Subject: Re: [FRIAM] States Ranked: Smartest to Dumbest > To: The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group > <Friam at redfish.com> > Message-ID: <B1CA89BC-26D4-48AC-9E00-60D72A4991D6 at backspaces.net> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > > There is at least an urban legend here that the kids of many of the > older families are loath to excel academically. They want to live > here. There are very few jobs here for college graduates. Thus > getting a degree is basically opting to exile yourself from the state. > > -- Owen > > Owen Densmore > http://backspaces.net - http://redfish.com - http://friam.org > > > On Oct 10, 2005, at 7:52 PM, Michael Gizzi wrote: > > > What I found interesting was that with the exception of the West > > coast, the top ten were almost entirely "Blue" states. Heck, they > > were pretty much the only blue states. What does that tell us? > > Anything? > > > > I don't live in NM, but there really must be huge disparities to > > cause that ranking. Where does NM rank in poverty? Is it one > > thing bringing it down? > > > > I am surprised too that Colorado ranked as high as it did, given > > our pathetic funding of education (where we rank around 48 - 49 > > depending on the poll). > > > > Michael Gizzi > -------------- next part -------------- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: /attachment-0001.htm > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 5 > Date: Tue, 11 Oct 2005 01:29:32 -0400 > From: Sven Gato Redsun <svengato at svengato.com> > Subject: [FRIAM] friam links > To: FRIAM <friam at redfish.com> > Message-ID: <200510110129.32405.svengato at svengato.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > > Attached is a first draft of a python script that creates an html page of > from old FRIAM messages, plus sample output for this month. > > (I got frustrated with personally rereading old FRIAM posts, especially as so > many people sloppily include the entire original message in their replies.) > > -Sven- > -------------- next part -------------- > A non-text attachment was scrubbed... > Name: extract_urls.py > Type: application/x-python > Size: 2484 bytes > Desc: not available > Url : http://redfish.com/pipermail/friam_redfish.com/attachments/20051011/737323dc /extract_urls.bin > -------------- next part -------------- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: http://redfish.com/pipermail/friam_redfish.com/attachments/20051011/737323dc /friam_links.html > > ------------------------------ > > _______________________________________________ > Friam mailing list > Friam at redfish.com > http://redfish.com/mailman/listinfo/friam_redfish.com > > > End of Friam Digest, Vol 28, Issue 17 > ************************************* |
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On 10/11/05, Nicholas Thompson <nickthompson at earthlink.net> wrote:
> All > > Does any body know what the measures are. I confess, having gone back and > forth between NM and MA several times, I havent noticed that great a > difference. Shirly BACA would make our Faculty Chair look like a Genius > and the SFE City Council would make our department meeting look like a > Council of Wizards > > Nick . I don't know the exact metric used, but it isn't hard to work it out how it happens. google supplied this helpful link: http://www.census.gov/statab/www/ranks.html New Mexico is, for varying years and averages, ranked: #1 in Hispanic or Latino population by percent, #2 in American Indian or Alaskan Native population by percent, #2 in persons below poverty level #2 in mobile homes as percent of total housing units #5 in violent crime per 100000 population, #6 in population under age 18 percent, ... #30 in home ownership, #30 in doctors per 100000 population #36 in persons 25 years or older with a bachelors degree #44 in median household income #45 in elementary and secondary teacher salary by percent, #46 in personal income per capita Add it all up, one way or another, and it isn't hard to come out last. -- rec -- |
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