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FW: The quintessence of complexity thinking

Kenneth Lloyd

Shortly after posting this reply to Marcus, I received notice of a
whitepaper by Gauci and Stanley

http://eplex.cs.ucf.edu/papers/gauci_aaai08.pdf 

which relates to the discussion.

Ken

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Ken Lloyd [mailto:kalloyd at wattsys.com]
> Sent: Friday, April 11, 2008 8:41 AM
> To: 'The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group'
> Subject: RE: [FRIAM] The quintessence of complexity thinking
>
> Marcus,
>
> And sometimes, the whole is greater than the sum of its
> parts.  This accounts for emergent features from synergistic
> network coupling.  Specifically, if an ANN can recognize a
> coupling pattern in a network that gives rise to synergistic
> behavior which is congruent with similar coupling patterns in
> other networks - it has abstracted a new patterned,
> second-order rule (meta-rule).
>
> I am not so bold as to state this pattern recognition is the
> same as "understanding meaning" - only that certain congruent
> patterns correlate with certain output categories (the
> determination of which is beyond this post).
>
> Ken
>  
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: friam-bounces at redfish.com
> > [mailto:friam-bounces at redfish.com] On Behalf Of Marcus G. Daniels
> > Sent: Thursday, April 10, 2008 11:35 PM
> > To: The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group
> > Subject: Re: [FRIAM] The quintessence of complexity thinking
> >
> > Ken Lloyd wrote:
> > > Would it be more interesting to ask - What if in second
> order ABM's
> > > the agents could differentiate meta-rules (as patterns)
> from rules?
> > > Could they then apply them using evolutionary meta-genetics
> > as a means
> > > serving as abstraction?  Would this work in n^m-order ABM's?
> > >  
> > An agent notes the prevailing behaviors and/or wisdom in
> its vicinity,
> > and then `abstracts' that?
> > What makes it an abstraction and not just an imperfect copy?  
> > Sometimes
> > (often?) the whole is less than the sum of its parts...  
> > Simulations along these lines could address questions like
> the impact
> > on a population from meta rules and communication vs.
> agents living in
> > ignorant bliss.
> >
> >
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