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Eric Charles-2

Covid graph

I know some at FRIAM like to obsess over the ongoing apocalypse, so I thought you might appreciate this. It is the second covid graph I prepared for my Facebook feed. I think trying to think clearly about what's going on requires a data-visualization format something like this. We desperately want the number of confirmed cases to predict deaths, but it really doesn't seem to. As a data-analysis person, I find the non-correlation between confirmed cases and deaths fascinating. If I was making this specifically for FRIAM, I would put both cases and deaths on the same graph with two different scales, but that wouldn't work at all for most random people I know. I posted it to The Book of Face with this caption:

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10 Days since my last graph... Sweden is basically done, as predicted... U.S. has been spiking in confirmed cases for over a month, but the associated uptick in deaths is already leveling off after starting two weeks ago, and didn't get very far. It is obviously unfortunate we didn't continue the downward trend we were working... but I'm not sure it was ever realistic for the U.S. to do that, and, if we were going to have an uptick, this isn't nearly as bad as it could be.

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Frank Wimberly-2

Re: Covid graph

Can't see yours EricC. How does it compare to this

Posted on Facebook by George Duncan.

On Wed, Jul 22, 2020 at 7:18 PM Eric Charles <[hidden email]> wrote:

I know some at FRIAM like to obsess over the ongoing apocalypse, so I thought you might appreciate this. It is the second covid graph I prepared for my Facebook feed. I think trying to think clearly about what's going on requires a data-visualization format something like this. We desperately want the number of confirmed cases to predict deaths, but it really doesn't seem to. As a data-analysis person, I find the non-correlation between confirmed cases and deaths fascinating. If I was making this specifically for FRIAM, I would put both cases and deaths on the same graph with two different scales, but that wouldn't work at all for most random people I know. I posted it to The Book of Face with this caption:
---------------
10 Days since my last graph... Sweden is basically done, as predicted... U.S. has been spiking in confirmed cases for over a month, but the associated uptick in deaths is already leveling off after starting two weeks ago, and didn't get very far. It is obviously unfortunate we didn't continue the downward trend we were working... but I'm not sure it was ever realistic for the U.S. to do that, and, if we were going to have an uptick, this isn't nearly as bad as it could be.

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Eric Charles-2

Re: Covid graph

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TRY 2

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Eric P. Charles, Ph.D.
Department of Justice - Personnel Psychologist

American University - Adjunct Instructor

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On Wed, Jul 22, 2020 at 9:17 PM Eric Charles <[hidden email]> wrote:

I know some at FRIAM like to obsess over the ongoing apocalypse, so I thought you might appreciate this. It is the second covid graph I prepared for my Facebook feed. I think trying to think clearly about what's going on requires a data-visualization format something like this. We desperately want the number of confirmed cases to predict deaths, but it really doesn't seem to. As a data-analysis person, I find the non-correlation between confirmed cases and deaths fascinating. If I was making this specifically for FRIAM, I would put both cases and deaths on the same graph with two different scales, but that wouldn't work at all for most random people I know. I posted it to The Book of Face with this caption:
---------------
10 Days since my last graph... Sweden is basically done, as predicted... U.S. has been spiking in confirmed cases for over a month, but the associated uptick in deaths is already leveling off after starting two weeks ago, and didn't get very far. It is obviously unfortunate we didn't continue the downward trend we were working... but I'm not sure it was ever realistic for the U.S. to do that, and, if we were going to have an uptick, this isn't nearly as bad as it could be.

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Frank Wimberly-2

Re: Covid graph

Now, of course, the US has suffered more than 140,000 deaths.

On Wed, Jul 22, 2020 at 7:24 PM Eric Charles <[hidden email]> wrote:

TRY 2

I know some at FRIAM like to obsess over the ongoing apocalypse, so I thought you might appreciate this. It is the second covid graph I prepared for my Facebook feed. I think trying to think clearly about what's going on requires a data-visualization format something like this. We desperately want the number of confirmed cases to predict deaths, but it really doesn't seem to. As a data-analysis person, I find the non-correlation between confirmed cases and deaths fascinating. If I was making this specifically for FRIAM, I would put both cases and deaths on the same graph with two different scales, but that wouldn't work at all for most random people I know. I posted it to The Book of Face with this caption:
---------------
10 Days since my last graph... Sweden is basically done, as predicted... U.S. has been spiking in confirmed cases for over a month, but the associated uptick in deaths is already leveling off after starting two weeks ago, and didn't get very far. It is obviously unfortunate we didn't continue the downward trend we were working... but I'm not sure it was ever realistic for the U.S. to do that, and, if we were going to have an uptick, this isn't nearly as bad as it could be.

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Eric P. Charles, Ph.D.
Department of Justice - Personnel Psychologist
American University - Adjunct Instructor
[hidden email]

On Wed, Jul 22, 2020 at 9:17 PM Eric Charles <[hidden email]> wrote:
I know some at FRIAM like to obsess over the ongoing apocalypse, so I thought you might appreciate this. It is the second covid graph I prepared for my Facebook feed. I think trying to think clearly about what's going on requires a data-visualization format something like this. We desperately want the number of confirmed cases to predict deaths, but it really doesn't seem to. As a data-analysis person, I find the non-correlation between confirmed cases and deaths fascinating. If I was making this specifically for FRIAM, I would put both cases and deaths on the same graph with two different scales, but that wouldn't work at all for most random people I know. I posted it to The Book of Face with this caption:
---------------
10 Days since my last graph... Sweden is basically done, as predicted... U.S. has been spiking in confirmed cases for over a month, but the associated uptick in deaths is already leveling off after starting two weeks ago, and didn't get very far. It is obviously unfortunate we didn't continue the downward trend we were working... but I'm not sure it was ever realistic for the U.S. to do that, and, if we were going to have an uptick, this isn't nearly as bad as it could be.

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Eric Charles-2

Re: Covid graph

Frank....

Those graphs are up to today. That's what the 146,000ish deaths look like.

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Eric P. Charles, Ph.D.
Department of Justice - Personnel Psychologist

American University - Adjunct Instructor

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On Wed, Jul 22, 2020 at 9:30 PM Frank Wimberly <[hidden email]> wrote:

Now, of course, the US has suffered more than 140,000 deaths.

On Wed, Jul 22, 2020 at 7:24 PM Eric Charles <[hidden email]> wrote:
TRY 2

I know some at FRIAM like to obsess over the ongoing apocalypse, so I thought you might appreciate this. It is the second covid graph I prepared for my Facebook feed. I think trying to think clearly about what's going on requires a data-visualization format something like this. We desperately want the number of confirmed cases to predict deaths, but it really doesn't seem to. As a data-analysis person, I find the non-correlation between confirmed cases and deaths fascinating. If I was making this specifically for FRIAM, I would put both cases and deaths on the same graph with two different scales, but that wouldn't work at all for most random people I know. I posted it to The Book of Face with this caption:
---------------
10 Days since my last graph... Sweden is basically done, as predicted... U.S. has been spiking in confirmed cases for over a month, but the associated uptick in deaths is already leveling off after starting two weeks ago, and didn't get very far. It is obviously unfortunate we didn't continue the downward trend we were working... but I'm not sure it was ever realistic for the U.S. to do that, and, if we were going to have an uptick, this isn't nearly as bad as it could be.

-----------
Eric P. Charles, Ph.D.
Department of Justice - Personnel Psychologist
American University - Adjunct Instructor
[hidden email]

On Wed, Jul 22, 2020 at 9:17 PM Eric Charles <[hidden email]> wrote:
I know some at FRIAM like to obsess over the ongoing apocalypse, so I thought you might appreciate this. It is the second covid graph I prepared for my Facebook feed. I think trying to think clearly about what's going on requires a data-visualization format something like this. We desperately want the number of confirmed cases to predict deaths, but it really doesn't seem to. As a data-analysis person, I find the non-correlation between confirmed cases and deaths fascinating. If I was making this specifically for FRIAM, I would put both cases and deaths on the same graph with two different scales, but that wouldn't work at all for most random people I know. I posted it to The Book of Face with this caption:
---------------
10 Days since my last graph... Sweden is basically done, as predicted... U.S. has been spiking in confirmed cases for over a month, but the associated uptick in deaths is already leveling off after starting two weeks ago, and didn't get very far. It is obviously unfortunate we didn't continue the downward trend we were working... but I'm not sure it was ever realistic for the U.S. to do that, and, if we were going to have an uptick, this isn't nearly as bad as it could be.

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thompnickson2

Re: Covid graph

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Eric,

I couldn’t “see” the graph in your email. A me-thing, or a you-thing?

Nicholas Thompson

Emeritus Professor of Ethology and Psychology

Clark University

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From: Friam <[hidden email]> On Behalf Of Eric Charles
Sent: Wednesday, July 22, 2020 7:18 PM
To: The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group <[hidden email]>
Subject: [FRIAM] Covid graph

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thompnickson2

Re: Covid graph

In reply to this post by Eric Charles-2

What was the Sweden story? Last time I thought about Sweden was months ago, when they had just discovered the error of their ways and were embarking on some kind of lockdown. What happened?

Nicholas Thompson

Emeritus Professor of Ethology and Psychology

Clark University

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https://wordpress.clarku.edu/nthompson/

From: Friam <[hidden email]> On Behalf Of Eric Charles
Sent: Wednesday, July 22, 2020 7:38 PM
To: The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group <[hidden email]>
Subject: Re: [FRIAM] Covid graph

Frank....

Those graphs are up to today. That's what the 146,000ish deaths look like.

-----------

Eric P. Charles, Ph.D.
Department of Justice - Personnel Psychologist

American University - Adjunct Instructor

On Wed, Jul 22, 2020 at 9:30 PM Frank Wimberly <[hidden email]> wrote:

Now, of course, the US has suffered more than 140,000 deaths.

On Wed, Jul 22, 2020 at 7:24 PM Eric Charles <[hidden email]> wrote:
TRY 2
I know some at FRIAM like to obsess over the ongoing apocalypse, so I thought you might appreciate this. It is the second covid graph I prepared for my Facebook feed. I think trying to think clearly about what's going on requires a data-visualization format something like this. We desperately want the number of confirmed cases to predict deaths, but it really doesn't seem to. As a data-analysis person, I find the non-correlation between confirmed cases and deaths fascinating. If I was making this specifically for FRIAM, I would put both cases and deaths on the same graph with two different scales, but that wouldn't work at all for most random people I know. I posted it to The Book of Face with this caption:
---------------
10 Days since my last graph... Sweden is basically done, as predicted... U.S. has been spiking in confirmed cases for over a month, but the associated uptick in deaths is already leveling off after starting two weeks ago, and didn't get very far. It is obviously unfortunate we didn't continue the downward trend we were working... but I'm not sure it was ever realistic for the U.S. to do that, and, if we were going to have an uptick, this isn't nearly as bad as it could be.

-----------
Eric P. Charles, Ph.D.
Department of Justice - Personnel Psychologist
American University - Adjunct Instructor

On Wed, Jul 22, 2020 at 9:17 PM Eric Charles <[hidden email]> wrote:
I know some at FRIAM like to obsess over the ongoing apocalypse, so I thought you might appreciate this. It is the second covid graph I prepared for my Facebook feed. I think trying to think clearly about what's going on requires a data-visualization format something like this. We desperately want the number of confirmed cases to predict deaths, but it really doesn't seem to. As a data-analysis person, I find the non-correlation between confirmed cases and deaths fascinating. If I was making this specifically for FRIAM, I would put both cases and deaths on the same graph with two different scales, but that wouldn't work at all for most random people I know. I posted it to The Book of Face with this caption:
---------------
10 Days since my last graph... Sweden is basically done, as predicted... U.S. has been spiking in confirmed cases for over a month, but the associated uptick in deaths is already leveling off after starting two weeks ago, and didn't get very far. It is obviously unfortunate we didn't continue the downward trend we were working... but I'm not sure it was ever realistic for the U.S. to do that, and, if we were going to have an uptick, this isn't nearly as bad as it could be.

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Merle Lefkoff-2

Re: Covid graph

In reply to this post by Eric Charles-2

...speaking of data visualization...

(Everything else is noise)

Wealth to scale: https://mkorostoff.github.io/1-pixel-wealth/

On Wed, Jul 22, 2020 at 6:18 PM Eric Charles <[hidden email]> wrote:

I know some at FRIAM like to obsess over the ongoing apocalypse, so I thought you might appreciate this. It is the second covid graph I prepared for my Facebook feed. I think trying to think clearly about what's going on requires a data-visualization format something like this. We desperately want the number of confirmed cases to predict deaths, but it really doesn't seem to. As a data-analysis person, I find the non-correlation between confirmed cases and deaths fascinating. If I was making this specifically for FRIAM, I would put both cases and deaths on the same graph with two different scales, but that wouldn't work at all for most random people I know. I posted it to The Book of Face with this caption:
---------------
10 Days since my last graph... Sweden is basically done, as predicted... U.S. has been spiking in confirmed cases for over a month, but the associated uptick in deaths is already leveling off after starting two weeks ago, and didn't get very far. It is obviously unfortunate we didn't continue the downward trend we were working... but I'm not sure it was ever realistic for the U.S. to do that, and, if we were going to have an uptick, this isn't nearly as bad as it could be.

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Center for Emergent Diplomacy
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Barry MacKichan

Re: Covid graph

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The method for reporting Covid data changed, and public health people were predicting that it increased the burden for already overburdened hospitals. Is that possibly an explanation for the leveling off? If not, what would cause deaths to level off while cases (and hospitalizations as seen in the Atlantic article (https://www.theatlantic.com/health/archive/2020/07/second-coronavirus-death-surge/614122/) continue to rise? I doubt that the age distribution would be changing suddenly, or that the treatments are suddenly better than two weeks ago.

—Barry

On 22 Jul 2020, at 21:24, Eric Charles wrote:

but the associated uptick in deaths is already leveling off after starting two weeks ago

thompnickson2

Re: Covid graph

But I thought that everybody agreed that the age distribution IS changing.

Nicholas Thompson

Emeritus Professor of Ethology and Psychology

Clark University

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https://wordpress.clarku.edu/nthompson/

From: Friam <[hidden email]> On Behalf Of Barry MacKichan
Sent: Thursday, July 23, 2020 9:40 AM
To: The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group <[hidden email]>
Subject: Re: [FRIAM] Covid graph

—Barry

On 22 Jul 2020, at 21:24, Eric Charles wrote:

but the associated uptick in deaths is already leveling off after starting two weeks ago

Barry MacKichan

Re: Covid graph

The deaths curve follows the cases curve (with different scale and time lag) pretty well until about two weeks ago. I think the age distribution started before that. It is possible, I guess, if the age went down around Memorial Day, and the time lag is just so, this could be the age distribution showing, but I would have expected it to show up earlier. We’ll see in a few weeks, and we may know if there were snafus in the reporting process.

—Barry
On 23 Jul 2020, at 12:26, [hidden email] wrote:

B.

But I thought that everybody agreed that the age distribution IS changing.

N

Nicholas Thompson
Emeritus Professor of Ethology and Psychology
Clark University
[hidden email]
https://wordpress.clarku.edu/nthompson/

From: Friam <[hidden email]> On Behalf Of Barry MacKichan
Sent: Thursday, July 23, 2020 9:40 AM
To: The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group <[hidden email]>
Subject: Re: [FRIAM] Covid graph

The method for reporting Covid data changed, and public health people were predicting that it increased the burden for already overburdened hospitals. Is that possibly an explanation for the leveling off? If not, what would cause deaths to level off while cases (and hospitalizations as seen in the Atlantic article (https://www.theatlantic.com/health/archive/2020/07/second-coronavirus-death-surge/614122/) continue to rise? I doubt that the age distribution would be changing suddenly, or that the treatments are suddenly better than two weeks ago.
—Barry
On 22 Jul 2020, at 21:24, Eric Charles wrote:
but the associated uptick in deaths is already leveling off after starting two weeks ago

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Eric Charles-2

Re: Covid graph

But compare across the three counties.

Italy leads us to believe it is a simple lag between cases and deaths...

but the US and Sweden don't go with that at all. And adding more countries doesn't significantly help that confusion.

On Thu, Jul 23, 2020, 3:07 PM Barry MacKichan <[hidden email]> wrote:

The deaths curve follows the cases curve (with different scale and time lag) pretty well until about two weeks ago. I think the age distribution started before that. It is possible, I guess, if the age went down around Memorial Day, and the time lag is just so, this could be the age distribution showing, but I would have expected it to show up earlier. We’ll see in a few weeks, and we may know if there were snafus in the reporting process.

—Barry
On 23 Jul 2020, at 12:26, [hidden email] wrote:

B.

But I thought that everybody agreed that the age distribution IS changing.

N

Nicholas Thompson
Emeritus Professor of Ethology and Psychology
Clark University
[hidden email]
https://wordpress.clarku.edu/nthompson/

From: Friam <[hidden email]> On Behalf Of Barry MacKichan
Sent: Thursday, July 23, 2020 9:40 AM
To: The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group <[hidden email]>
Subject: Re: [FRIAM] Covid graph

The method for reporting Covid data changed, and public health people were predicting that it increased the burden for already overburdened hospitals. Is that possibly an explanation for the leveling off? If not, what would cause deaths to level off while cases (and hospitalizations as seen in the Atlantic article (https://www.theatlantic.com/health/archive/2020/07/second-coronavirus-death-surge/614122/) continue to rise? I doubt that the age distribution would be changing suddenly, or that the treatments are suddenly better than two weeks ago.
—Barry
On 22 Jul 2020, at 21:24, Eric Charles wrote:
but the associated uptick in deaths is already leveling off after starting two weeks ago

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thompnickson2

Re: Covid graph

Isn’t the case that if the disease kills the most vulnerable people first and is stopped (Italy) then we will see a high death rate. But if the disease kills the most vulnerable people first and is not stopped, (US) then the death rate will fall as the “most vulnerable” are both eliminated and more assiduously protected. Am I missing a point, here?

Nicholas Thompson

Emeritus Professor of Ethology and Psychology

Clark University

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https://wordpress.clarku.edu/nthompson/

From: Friam <[hidden email]> On Behalf Of Eric Charles
Sent: Thursday, July 23, 2020 1:28 PM
To: The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group <[hidden email]>
Subject: Re: [FRIAM] Covid graph

But compare across the three counties.

Italy leads us to believe it is a simple lag between cases and deaths...

but the US and Sweden don't go with that at all. And adding more countries doesn't significantly help that confusion.

On Thu, Jul 23, 2020, 3:07 PM Barry MacKichan <[hidden email]> wrote:

The deaths curve follows the cases curve (with different scale and time lag) pretty well until about two weeks ago. I think the age distribution started before that. It is possible, I guess, if the age went down around Memorial Day, and the time lag is just so, this could be the age distribution showing, but I would have expected it to show up earlier. We’ll see in a few weeks, and we may know if there were snafus in the reporting process.
—Barry
On 23 Jul 2020, at 12:26, [hidden email] wrote:
B.

But I thought that everybody agreed that the age distribution IS changing.

N

Nicholas Thompson
Emeritus Professor of Ethology and Psychology
Clark University
[hidden email]
https://wordpress.clarku.edu/nthompson/

From: Friam <[hidden email]> On Behalf Of Barry MacKichan
Sent: Thursday, July 23, 2020 9:40 AM
To: The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group <[hidden email]>
Subject: Re: [FRIAM] Covid graph

The method for reporting Covid data changed, and public health people were predicting that it increased the burden for already overburdened hospitals. Is that possibly an explanation for the leveling off? If not, what would cause deaths to level off while cases (and hospitalizations as seen in the Atlantic article (https://www.theatlantic.com/health/archive/2020/07/second-coronavirus-death-surge/614122/) continue to rise? I doubt that the age distribution would be changing suddenly, or that the treatments are suddenly better than two weeks ago.
—Barry
On 22 Jul 2020, at 21:24, Eric Charles wrote:
but the associated uptick in deaths is already leveling off after starting two weeks ago
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