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Corvid-nerd request

thompnickson2

Suddenly, I cannot find anywhere a map of weekly or daily average, raw or per-population, county level, new case corvid data, i.e..  I am sure I am being dumb.  Somebody, help me to not be dumb.

 

Thanks,

 

Nick

 

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Re: Corvid-nerd request

Frank Wimberly-2

On Sun, May 24, 2020 at 2:40 PM <[hidden email]> wrote:

Suddenly, I cannot find anywhere a map of weekly or daily average, raw or per-population, county level, new case corvid data, i.e..  I am sure I am being dumb.  Somebody, help me to not be dumb.

 

Thanks,

 

Nick

 

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thompnickson2

Yes.  Thanks, Frank.  That’s where it used to be.  But the “case growth rate” is only represented graphically, and is becoming increasingly a useless number because it is SO dependent on howmany cases the county has already had.  What I am really looking for is the daily case increase, or even better, the daily case increase per 100 k pop.

 

Thanks,

N

 

Nicholas Thompson

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Clark University

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On Sun, May 24, 2020 at 2:40 PM <[hidden email]> wrote:

Suddenly, I cannot find anywhere a map of weekly or daily average, raw or per-population, county level, new case corvid data, i.e..  I am sure I am being dumb.  Somebody, help me to not be dumb.

 

Thanks,

 

Nick

 

Nicholas Thompson

Emeritus Professor of Ethology and Psychology

Clark University

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Re: Corvid-nerd request

Frank Wimberly-2
Picky, picky.

Seriously, ...

On Sun, May 24, 2020 at 3:05 PM <[hidden email]> wrote:

Yes.  Thanks, Frank.  That’s where it used to be.  But the “case growth rate” is only represented graphically, and is becoming increasingly a useless number because it is SO dependent on howmany cases the county has already had.  What I am really looking for is the daily case increase, or even better, the daily case increase per 100 k pop.

 

Thanks,

N

 

Nicholas Thompson

Emeritus Professor of Ethology and Psychology

Clark University

[hidden email]

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On Sun, May 24, 2020 at 2:40 PM <[hidden email]> wrote:

Suddenly, I cannot find anywhere a map of weekly or daily average, raw or per-population, county level, new case corvid data, i.e..  I am sure I am being dumb.  Somebody, help me to not be dumb.

 

Thanks,

 

Nick

 

Nicholas Thompson

Emeritus Professor of Ethology and Psychology

Clark University

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Re: Corvid-nerd request

thompnickson2

No, no.  I am not being picky.  Or at least, I hope not.  What I want to know is the  relative risk of staying here in Santa Fe County NM or going to Hampshire County MA.  (never mind getting there, that’s a whole different issue).  I think that decision is best shaped by knowing how many new cases there are, full stop in, and/or how many new cases there are per population.  I may be being REALLY DUMB, but I don’t think I can find that info from the NYT site, any more. 

 

By the way, I am mixing up my CORvid threads with my COvid threads. 

 

Nick

 

Nicholas Thompson

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Clark University

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From: Friam <[hidden email]> On Behalf Of Frank Wimberly
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Subject: Re: [FRIAM] Corvid-nerd request

 

Picky, picky.

 

Seriously, ...

 

On Sun, May 24, 2020 at 3:05 PM <[hidden email]> wrote:

Yes.  Thanks, Frank.  That’s where it used to be.  But the “case growth rate” is only represented graphically, and is becoming increasingly a useless number because it is SO dependent on howmany cases the county has already had.  What I am really looking for is the daily case increase, or even better, the daily case increase per 100 k pop.

 

Thanks,

N

 

Nicholas Thompson

Emeritus Professor of Ethology and Psychology

Clark University

[hidden email]

https://wordpress.clarku.edu/nthompson/

 

 

From: Friam <[hidden email]> On Behalf Of Frank Wimberly
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Subject: Re: [FRIAM] Corvid-nerd request

 

 

On Sun, May 24, 2020 at 2:40 PM <[hidden email]> wrote:

Suddenly, I cannot find anywhere a map of weekly or daily average, raw or per-population, county level, new case corvid data, i.e..  I am sure I am being dumb.  Somebody, help me to not be dumb.

 

Thanks,

 

Nick

 

Nicholas Thompson

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Clark University

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Re: Corvid-nerd request

Marcus G. Daniels

There’s a lot here..

 

https://github.com/starschema/COVID-19-data

 

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No, no.  I am not being picky.  Or at least, I hope not.  What I want to know is the  relative risk of staying here in Santa Fe County NM or going to Hampshire County MA.  (never mind getting there, that’s a whole different issue).  I think that decision is best shaped by knowing how many new cases there are, full stop in, and/or how many new cases there are per population.  I may be being REALLY DUMB, but I don’t think I can find that info from the NYT site, any more. 

 

By the way, I am mixing up my CORvid threads with my COvid threads. 

 

Nick

 

Nicholas Thompson

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Clark University

[hidden email]

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From: Friam <[hidden email]> On Behalf Of Frank Wimberly
Sent: Sunday, May 24, 2020 3:06 PM
To: The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group <[hidden email]>
Subject: Re: [FRIAM] Corvid-nerd request

 

Picky, picky.

 

Seriously, ...

 

On Sun, May 24, 2020 at 3:05 PM <[hidden email]> wrote:

Yes.  Thanks, Frank.  That’s where it used to be.  But the “case growth rate” is only represented graphically, and is becoming increasingly a useless number because it is SO dependent on howmany cases the county has already had.  What I am really looking for is the daily case increase, or even better, the daily case increase per 100 k pop.

 

Thanks,

N

 

Nicholas Thompson

Emeritus Professor of Ethology and Psychology

Clark University

[hidden email]

https://wordpress.clarku.edu/nthompson/

 

 

From: Friam <[hidden email]> On Behalf Of Frank Wimberly
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Subject: Re: [FRIAM] Corvid-nerd request

 

 

On Sun, May 24, 2020 at 2:40 PM <[hidden email]> wrote:

Suddenly, I cannot find anywhere a map of weekly or daily average, raw or per-population, county level, new case corvid data, i.e..  I am sure I am being dumb.  Somebody, help me to not be dumb.

 

Thanks,

 

Nick

 

Nicholas Thompson

Emeritus Professor of Ethology and Psychology

Clark University

[hidden email]

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Re: Corvid-nerd request

Frank Wimberly-2
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It was an intertextual reference.  When Pat something on the Smother Brothers Show was running  for president he gave a speech in which he said, "My opponent says I have no foreign policy experience, that I lack knowledge of the fiscal policy, that I have no understanding of welfare policy, that I have no experience as an executive.  Well, I say picky picky."

I was happy to see that Santa Fe County has experienced only three deaths.  It's unlikely that your county in Massachusetts has that low a rate, isn't it.

Frank

On Sun, May 24, 2020 at 3:12 PM <[hidden email]> wrote:

No, no.  I am not being picky.  Or at least, I hope not.  What I want to know is the  relative risk of staying here in Santa Fe County NM or going to Hampshire County MA.  (never mind getting there, that’s a whole different issue).  I think that decision is best shaped by knowing how many new cases there are, full stop in, and/or how many new cases there are per population.  I may be being REALLY DUMB, but I don’t think I can find that info from the NYT site, any more. 

 

By the way, I am mixing up my CORvid threads with my COvid threads. 

 

Nick

 

Nicholas Thompson

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Clark University

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From: Friam <[hidden email]> On Behalf Of Frank Wimberly
Sent: Sunday, May 24, 2020 3:06 PM
To: The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group <[hidden email]>
Subject: Re: [FRIAM] Corvid-nerd request

 

Picky, picky.

 

Seriously, ...

 

On Sun, May 24, 2020 at 3:05 PM <[hidden email]> wrote:

Yes.  Thanks, Frank.  That’s where it used to be.  But the “case growth rate” is only represented graphically, and is becoming increasingly a useless number because it is SO dependent on howmany cases the county has already had.  What I am really looking for is the daily case increase, or even better, the daily case increase per 100 k pop.

 

Thanks,

N

 

Nicholas Thompson

Emeritus Professor of Ethology and Psychology

Clark University

[hidden email]

https://wordpress.clarku.edu/nthompson/

 

 

From: Friam <[hidden email]> On Behalf Of Frank Wimberly
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Subject: Re: [FRIAM] Corvid-nerd request

 

 

On Sun, May 24, 2020 at 2:40 PM <[hidden email]> wrote:

Suddenly, I cannot find anywhere a map of weekly or daily average, raw or per-population, county level, new case corvid data, i.e..  I am sure I am being dumb.  Somebody, help me to not be dumb.

 

Thanks,

 

Nick

 

Nicholas Thompson

Emeritus Professor of Ethology and Psychology

Clark University

[hidden email]

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Re: Corvid-nerd request

thompnickson2

Yes.  It’s definitely more than that.

 

N

 

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It was an intertextual reference.  When Pat something on the Smother Brothers Show was running  for president he gave a speech in which he said, "My opponent says I have no foreign policy experience, that I lack knowledge of the fiscal policy, that I have no understanding of welfare policy, that I have no experience as an executive.  Well, I say picky picky."

 

I was happy to see that Santa Fe County has experienced only three deaths.  It's unlikely that your county in Massachusetts has that low a rate, isn't it.

 

Frank

 

On Sun, May 24, 2020 at 3:12 PM <[hidden email]> wrote:

No, no.  I am not being picky.  Or at least, I hope not.  What I want to know is the  relative risk of staying here in Santa Fe County NM or going to Hampshire County MA.  (never mind getting there, that’s a whole different issue).  I think that decision is best shaped by knowing how many new cases there are, full stop in, and/or how many new cases there are per population.  I may be being REALLY DUMB, but I don’t think I can find that info from the NYT site, any more. 

 

By the way, I am mixing up my CORvid threads with my COvid threads. 

 

Nick

 

Nicholas Thompson

Emeritus Professor of Ethology and Psychology

Clark University

[hidden email]

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From: Friam <[hidden email]> On Behalf Of Frank Wimberly
Sent: Sunday, May 24, 2020 3:06 PM
To: The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group <[hidden email]>
Subject: Re: [FRIAM] Corvid-nerd request

 

Picky, picky.

 

Seriously, ...

 

On Sun, May 24, 2020 at 3:05 PM <[hidden email]> wrote:

Yes.  Thanks, Frank.  That’s where it used to be.  But the “case growth rate” is only represented graphically, and is becoming increasingly a useless number because it is SO dependent on howmany cases the county has already had.  What I am really looking for is the daily case increase, or even better, the daily case increase per 100 k pop.

 

Thanks,

N

 

Nicholas Thompson

Emeritus Professor of Ethology and Psychology

Clark University

[hidden email]

https://wordpress.clarku.edu/nthompson/

 

 

From: Friam <[hidden email]> On Behalf Of Frank Wimberly
Sent: Sunday, May 24, 2020 3:01 PM
To: The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group <[hidden email]>
Subject: Re: [FRIAM] Corvid-nerd request

 

 

On Sun, May 24, 2020 at 2:40 PM <[hidden email]> wrote:

Suddenly, I cannot find anywhere a map of weekly or daily average, raw or per-population, county level, new case corvid data, i.e..  I am sure I am being dumb.  Somebody, help me to not be dumb.

 

Thanks,

 

Nick

 

Nicholas Thompson

Emeritus Professor of Ethology and Psychology

Clark University

[hidden email]

https://wordpress.clarku.edu/nthompson/

 

 

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Re: Corvid-nerd request

Prof David West
In reply to this post by thompnickson2
Nick,

The probability of any individual in the US having COVID-19 (known cases divided by population) is .00518

How many strangers — people you do not know are disease free  or are non-infecting with antibodies — do you encounter, close enough to exchange droplets, in Santa Fe?

Add the number of strangers that anyone in your inner circle might similarly encounter?

Let's assume that an encounter guarantees transmission, such that if you/yours encounters someone with the disease, you will be infected.

So, if you or yours encounter ten strangers, your odds of getting the disease increase to .0518.  If a hundred, then .518

The only difference in risk between Santa Fe and Massachusetts is the number of strangers you/yours encounter. That number is pretty much under your control, so there is some, but relatively minor, difference in risk.

using cases/population data, the odds of a stranger having covid in Hampshire county is 830/160,000 = .00519. In Santa Fe County, 126/150,000 = .00084.

The odds that a stranger has the virus is six times greater in Hampshire.

You control the number of strangers, so you control the risk.

Most of the other factors that I can think of — e.g. likelihood of a droplet exchange, likelihood of transmission — reduce the risk from the worst case numbers above.

A factor that would increase risk concerns the likelihood that a stranger has the disease given smaller population units than the county; i.e. 200 known cases in a 300 resident nursing home = 66%. Stay out of nursing homes!

Go to Mass and continue to be a hermit.

Caveat: I grabbed the first numbers on Google that presented themselves.

Statisticians feel free to tear my argument apart.

davew


On Sun, May 24, 2020, at 3:12 PM, [hidden email] wrote:

No, no.  I am not being picky.  Or at least, I hope not.  What I want to know is the  relative risk of staying here in Santa Fe County NM or going to Hampshire County MA.  (never mind getting there, that’s a whole different issue).  I think that decision is best shaped by knowing how many new cases there are, full stop in, and/or how many new cases there are per population.  I may be being REALLY DUMB, but I don’t think I can find that info from the NYT site, any more. 

 

By the way, I am mixing up my CORvid threads with my COvid threads. 

 

Nick

 

Nicholas Thompson

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Clark University

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From: Friam <[hidden email]> On Behalf Of Frank Wimberly
Sent: Sunday, May 24, 2020 3:06 PM
To: The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group <[hidden email]>
Subject: Re: [FRIAM] Corvid-nerd request

 

Picky, picky.

 

Seriously, ...

 

On Sun, May 24, 2020 at 3:05 PM <[hidden email]> wrote:

Yes.  Thanks, Frank.  That’s where it used to be.  But the “case growth rate” is only represented graphically, and is becoming increasingly a useless number because it is SO dependent on howmany cases the county has already had.  What I am really looking for is the daily case increase, or even better, the daily case increase per 100 k pop.

 

Thanks,

N

 

Nicholas Thompson

Emeritus Professor of Ethology and Psychology

Clark University

[hidden email]

https://wordpress.clarku.edu/nthompson/

 

 

From: Friam <[hidden email]> On Behalf Of Frank Wimberly
Sent: Sunday, May 24, 2020 3:01 PM
To: The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group <[hidden email]>
Subject: Re: [FRIAM] Corvid-nerd request

 

 

On Sun, May 24, 2020 at 2:40 PM <[hidden email]> wrote:

Suddenly, I cannot find anywhere a map of weekly or daily average, raw or per-population, county level, new case corvid data, i.e..  I am sure I am being dumb.  Somebody, help me to not be dumb.

 

Thanks,

 

Nick

 

Nicholas Thompson

Emeritus Professor of Ethology and Psychology

Clark University

[hidden email]

https://wordpress.clarku.edu/nthompson/

 

 

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